Acura CDX?
Looks like we might see an Acura CDX in the US after all. Might make choosing the RDX a bit tougher if you only need 2 rows and cargo space isn't a priority. MPG should be much better if they stick with the 1.5L engine.
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/01/31/...atent-renewal/ |
Originally Posted by skarface
(Post 16374648)
Looks like we might see an Acura CDX in the US after all. Might make choosing the RDX a bit tougher if you only need 2 rows and cargo space isn't a priority. MPG should be much better if they stick with the 1.5L engine.
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/01/31/...atent-renewal/ |
Originally Posted by RDX10
(Post 16374652)
It might cannibalize like 3% of RDX sales but definitely not more than that. The HR-V/CDX is quite a bit smaller and in the sub-compact class whereas the RDX is almost pushing midsize. With that aside, I think they should have brought the CDX over like 3 years ago and am not sure why they are still waiting.
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As long as it's not a CVT...
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Looks like they are delaying it because they think small SUVs appeal to older buyers and they want to go for younger buyers? That seems odd to me. If the CDX was only a couple grand more than the ILX, it seems like it would be a no brainer.
https://www.wardsauto.com/industry/a...s-still-matter |
Originally Posted by Midnight Mystery
(Post 16374654)
As long as it's not a CVT...
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Originally Posted by skarface
(Post 16374653)
I get not bringing it over before the RDX redesign since it has a lot of 2019 RDX redesign elements but at this point why not. It would have made the RDX look especially cheap back in 2016. Sometimes it seems like Acura is trying to fail lol
Sidenote: I'm always giving Acura a pass on the RDX on the basis that the infotainment is brand new...but now that you mention it, didn't this stuff already debut on the CDX 2-3 years ago?! Yet they're still having issues? |
As some of you have mentioned, Acura is slow and just doesn’t move fast. CDX is the perfect compact suv right now for people that need less cargo space and gas consumption. That said, Infiniti failed miserably with QX30. Does anyone know why? Apparently Infiniti will discontinue the QX30. So we never know... may be Acura is right and looking for the right time and opportunity. |
Originally Posted by RDX10
(Post 16374652)
It might cannibalize like 3% of RDX sales but definitely not more than that. The HR-V/CDX is quite a bit smaller and in the sub-compact class whereas the RDX is almost pushing midsize. With that aside, I think they should have brought the CDX over like 3 years ago and am not sure why they are still waiting.
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Originally Posted by skarface
(Post 16374648)
Looks like we might see an Acura CDX in the US after all. Might make choosing the RDX a bit tougher if you only need 2 rows and cargo space isn't a priority. MPG should be much better if they stick with the 1.5L engine.
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/01/31/...atent-renewal/ |
Originally Posted by Tony Pac
(Post 16374675)
As some of you have mentioned, Acura is slow and just doesn’t move fast. CDX is the perfect compact suv right now for people that need less cargo space and gas consumption. That said, Infiniti failed miserably with QX30. Does anyone know why? Apparently Infiniti will discontinue the QX30. So we never know... may be Acura is right and looking for the right time and opportunity. |
Originally Posted by JB in AZ
(Post 16374731)
Just a note... the date on that autoblog article is Jan 2018. A year ago.
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Originally Posted by skarface
(Post 16374907)
Yeah I saw that but kept seeing more news on the CDX. Figured if they went through the trouble of keeping up the Trademark a year ago, maybe we might actually see it soon.
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Originally Posted by JB in AZ
(Post 16374930)
...I personally wouldn't want a vehicle much smaller than the RDX.....
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Looks like at least a nice upgrade over a ILX or a opportunity to get someone that is debating a CRV vs. a RDX.
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Originally Posted by skarface
(Post 16374655)
Looks like they are delaying it because they think small SUVs appeal to older buyers and they want to go for younger buyers? That seems odd to me. If the CDX was only a couple grand more than the ILX, it seems like it would be a no brainer.
https://www.wardsauto.com/industry/a...s-still-matter |
Hmmm, looks to me from this video, like it could be built on the 5TH Gen (current) CR-V platform, (but Wikipedia says HRV) and the rear seats don't seem to be as compromised as those in the Lexus UX or what I saw looking into a window of an HRV today. Considering the 3G RDX went up to a larger platform from the 2G RDX, it is now bigger than the CR-V. This new CDX might just fit the bill for many.
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Originally Posted by JB in AZ
(Post 16375186)
Hmmm, looks to me from this video, like it could be built on the 5TH Gen (current) CR-V platform, (but Wikipedia says HRV) and the rear seats don't seem to be as compromised as those in the Lexus UX or what I saw looking into a window of an HRV today. Considering the 3G RDX went up to a larger platform from the 2G RDX, it is now bigger than the CR-V. This new CDX might just fit the bill for many.
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Originally Posted by zroger73
(Post 16375182)
I dunno... Seems like I see a lot of those tiny little Buick Encores in the driveways of retirement communities. :)
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Originally Posted by skarface
(Post 16375214)
Good point. Maybe they don't want the showroom filled with people pulling out their tip calculators...lol
There are compelling reasons for a smaller CUV in the Chinese market: smaller occupants, narrower roads, and non-existent parking, for instance. In the USA, I think it would be mostly price point. As for infotainment, that looks like the touchscreen system found in current Hondas. And if it has Nav, it's probably using Garmin's software. I get kinda misty eyed thinking about that these days. :whyme: |
Originally Posted by Wander
(Post 16375321)
Penny pinchers will probably go with a CRV. Old folks with bad backs might not want to scrunch into an HRV-size Acura. I might not want to scrunch into an HRV-size Acura. For that kind of effort, there had better be something gained, and I don't think a 1.5T and "basic" suspension is going to do it. I don't think this vehicle would target the enthusiast market.
There are compelling reasons for a smaller CUV in the Chinese market: smaller occupants, narrower roads, and non-existent parking, for instance. In the USA, I think it would be mostly price point. As for infotainment, that looks like the touchscreen system found in current Hondas. And if it has Nav, it's probably using Garmin's software. I get kinda misty eyed thinking about that these days. :whyme: As American tastes pivot to crossovers and SUVs, having just two offerings in the market has hurt Acura on the sales front, according to Ikeda. Acura’s sales have fallen so far this year due to stiff competition from other luxury subcompacts such as Audi’s Q3, BMW’s X1, Mercedes-Benz’s GLA and Infiniti’s QX30 to name a few, not to mention the upcoming Cadillac XT4 and Lexus’s UX expected to debut at next month’s Geneva Motor Show. https://www.nydailynews.com/autos/ne...icle-1.3792833 |
The last job in the world I'd want right now would be the product development director for the compact/sub-compact 'luxury' SUV/CUV segment at any manufacturer. I can't think of any compensation package that would make that kind of stress worthwhile. |
Originally Posted by MI-RDX
(Post 16375404)
Bottom line is it's an absolutely brutal market segment right now (for all manufacturers) and it's not going to soften any time soon.
The last job in the world I'd want right now would be the product development director for the compact/sub-compact 'luxury' SUV/CUV segment at any manufacturer. I can't think of any compensation package that would make that kind of stress worthwhile. |
Originally Posted by RDX10
(Post 16375889)
What stress? The marketplace is literally at the point where if you build a crossover, people will buy it. The Buick encore is basically a trax but it sells decently well. It's the people in charge of sedans that are feeling the stress.
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Originally Posted by RDX10
(Post 16375889)
What stress? The marketplace is literally at the point where if you build a crossover, people will buy it. The Buick encore is basically a trax but it sells decently well. It's the people in charge of sedans that are feeling the stress.
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Originally Posted by skarface
(Post 16376001)
Yeah it's almost like Acura tries to fail. If they sold any other crossover right now it would sell. They've had this cheap crossover that gets good gas mileage ready in China since 2016 and they can't get it together enough to just offer it in the US. Just drop it on the showroom floor and people would have been buying 4-5k a month easily. It's not even like they need to develop a small crossover to compete in that segment, its literally sitting in China right now haha. Maybe Acura will wait for gas prices to rise then offer an extended MDX or V8 or something and wonder what went wrong...lol.
Speaking if V8, the MDX and RL were supposed to get one but the 2008 recession stopped it :sad:
Originally Posted by MI-RDX
(Post 16376016)
Stress comes mostly from meeting corporate expectations of maximizing market share and profit margins. That's one of, if not the primary, reasons the RDX is lacking features available on competing vehicles (or Canadian models). I've seen it first hand when working at one of the US manufacturers - it was described to me as trying to maintain your balance while standing on the cutting edge of a giant straight razor.
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My wife will only drive a small car. She won't drive my RDX because of its size. So the CDX would be guaranteed at least one sale!!
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Originally Posted by romer
(Post 16376586)
My wife will only drive a small car. She won't drive my RDX because of its size. So the CDX would be guaranteed at least one sale!!
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I would have also been interested in the CDX. I didn’t like that the RDX got bigger. That along with the navigation system convinced me not to get the 2019 RDX. May look at the 2019 Audi Q3 when it comes out. |
Originally Posted by ShouldIBuyNew
(Post 16376648)
I would have also been interested in the CDX. I didn’t like that the RDX got bigger. That along with the navigation system convinced me not to get the 2019 RDX. May look at the 2019 Audi Q3 when it comes out. |
A CDX that starts near $30k and tops out under $40k would be tough to beat. A tech package AWD CDX for ~$35k would be an interesting option.
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Originally Posted by skarface
(Post 16375167)
Looks like at least a nice upgrade over a ILX or a opportunity to get someone that is debating a CRV vs. a RDX.
https://youtu.be/4iAi5_pWBz0 |
Originally Posted by ShouldIBuyNew
(Post 16376648)
I would have also been interested in the CDX. I didn’t like that the RDX got bigger. That along with the navigation system convinced me not to get the 2019 RDX. May look at the 2019 Audi Q3 when it comes out.
Originally Posted by JB in AZ
(Post 16376656)
An early review I read in one of the car magazines seemed to indicate it is gong to be almost the size of the current Q5.......
Originally Posted by Tony Pac
(Post 16376669)
Honestly, the CDX needs a few upgrades such as Apple carplay, the new Acura infotainment and few other minor techs. It's ready and based on this video it looks really good. It will sell well if Acura price it well. $45K CDN top model.
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Another Vote
Originally Posted by romer
(Post 16376586)
My wife will only drive a small car. She won't drive my RDX because of its size. So the CDX would be guaranteed at least one sale!!
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What I'd like to see is a new CLX - a coupe.
Originally Posted by skarface
(Post 16374648)
Looks like we might see an Acura CDX in the US after all. Might make choosing the RDX a bit tougher if you only need 2 rows and cargo space isn't a priority. MPG should be much better if they stick with the 1.5L engine.
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/01/31/...atent-renewal/ Comments, thoughts? |
Originally Posted by TLguy2013
(Post 16376712)
I'd like to see Acura develop a new coupe. Yes. I know. Nobody wants cars anymore. But I'd love to see Acura develop a coupe with SH-AWD. Maybe closer in size to a 1992-1993 Integra? 2.4L, could be with a turbo - 250-300 hp at least, 6 speed manual and/or dual clutch auto. I think they could sell some units. I know I'd buy one at least -- a 6 speed standard ('for my wife'). Pricing? Maybe $40-50k
Comments, thoughts? But hey I've never really liked cars. So it's entirely possible that I'm out of touch with the market. I mean if Genesis can sell cars, so can Acura and Acura definitely has a better brand cache than Genesis (even though Genesis builds nicer cars IMO). But Acura would have to bring their A-Game. No lukewarm 245hp electric power steering thing. It would have to be fast enough at a low enough price. |
Originally Posted by RDX10
(Post 16376714)
While I definitely think they would sell some, the money is in SUV's and furthermore the people who actually want cars and want something sporty will go to Audi, BMW, and Mercedes. A lot of people on here talk about Acura making a twin turbo type S TLX and honestly I still don't see that selling either. Acura just doesn't have the brand cache. They would be smart to drop the RLX,TLX and, ILX and expand their SUV lineup. The MDX and RDX are what is keeping the Acura brand afloat.
But hey I've never really liked cars. So it's entirely possible that I'm out of touch with the market. I mean if Genesis can sell cars, so can Acura and Acura definitely has a better brand cache than Genesis (even though Genesis builds nicer cars IMO). But Acura would have to bring their A-Game. No lukewarm 245hp electric power steering thing. It would have to be fast enough at a low enough price. :nono: Acura didn't even have an SUV for the first 15 years. Well, the SLX but no one needs to remember that... However, I aggree SUVs are completely awesome, some guys will still need an Acura sedan... As much of an SUV person as I am, I'm starting to hate them because they're becoming TOO popular now... I'd love to see a CDX though!!! :) |
CLX coupe?
I agree they'd have to bring their 'A' game - but I think they should ALWAYS do that. Acura has so much potential...
I know, cars are considered sad these days. But, I have a sedan, working on getting an MDX. I already have a special coupe now (obviously not an Acura). I think they could sell some CLX SH-AWD (not just merely FWD units) coupes - if they did them right. I'd drop the ILX now. Keep the RDX, and the MDX, of course the NSX. I know Acura pays attention to these sites - maybe they'll take the hint? Sadly, I doubt it. |
Originally Posted by TLguy2013
(Post 16376719)
I know Acura pays attention to these sites - maybe they'll take the hint? Sadly, I doubt it.
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If 'Kia' can sell a $50k Stinger, then absolutely Acura can do a v6 turbo sh awd TLX!
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