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Old 01-11-2019, 02:45 PM
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...koolaids to me means you can't be objective, brand can do no wrong, refuse to be open minded and crucify anyone dares to say anything bad about it.
Yep, that perfectly describes the Subaru forums.

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Old 01-12-2019, 01:56 AM
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Believe me, we have some wack jobs like that on here too
i think all the forums do.

but itís very instructive to cross-shop the forums lol. Bimmerfest seems full of questions about glitches and technical issues which tends to vouch for our deep mistrust of long-term BMW reliability!

I actually agree with the Mazda lounge forum about the Motor Trend review. I was in the CX-5 Signature yesterday and the CRV today (I own an older RDX but looking around). The CX-5 looked so much more elegant than the CRV but the CRV wins hands down as a family hauler.
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i think all the forums do.

but itís very instructive to cross-shop the forums lol. Bimmerfest seems full of questions about glitches and technical issues which tends to vouch for our deep mistrust of long-term BMW reliability!

I actually agree with the Mazda lounge forum about the Motor Trend review. I was in the CX-5 Signature yesterday and the CRV today (I own an older RDX but looking around). The CX-5 looked so much more elegant than the CRV but the CRV wins hands down as a family hauler.
That is true, it's a very good idea to go onto a forum of a prospective vehicle and just get a general idea with the caveat that they might not give a full picture.

I personally like the CRV a lot more than the CX-5. I don't know I'm just not fond of the long hood and short body and tiny taillights. The CRV OTOH LOOKS GOOD for the first time in its' existence. But the 1.5T oil issues and the CVT are hard for me to swallow. However if my wife or GF wanted it and it didn't have the 1.5T issues, I'd be on board!
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Old 01-12-2019, 08:24 AM
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The CRV OTOH LOOKS GOOD for the first time in its' existence. But the 1.5T oil issues and the CVT are hard for me to swallow.
Have you seen the new Honda Passport?

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Old 01-12-2019, 12:06 PM
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If we are talking about CRV, did RAV4 make your list? The new design is so much better looking now, he white body and black top looks stunning. You also have a range of models to choose from, all with different looks. It's a good family hauler but not as luxurious as CX-5.

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Old 01-12-2019, 02:34 PM
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Have you seen the new Honda Passport?
Yes and I think it looks really good. I'm a fan of the current Honda design language. I am however very hesitant when it comes to the Passport because of that ZF9 transmission. If you take a look around the forum there are various people mentioning not being able to live with their vehicles because of that transmission. I understand that the newer products are supposed to have better software tuning, but regardless of the software, the hardware - those dog clutches in particular - is still the same.

Now do I think the Honds 10AT is much better....I have yet to drive the 10AT yet and from what I've read on here and various reviews, it seems that the 10AT is still a little clunky too but possibly more livable.
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Old 01-12-2019, 05:19 PM
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I am however very hesitant when it comes to the Passport because of that ZF9 transmission. If you take a look around the forum there are various people mentioning not being able to live with their vehicles because of that transmission. I understand that the newer products are supposed to have better software tuning, but regardless of the software, the hardware - those dog clutches in particular - is still the same.
Yep, understood. I also heard that it has been improved, both software-side and hardware-side, but ????


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Yep, understood. I also heard that it has been improved, both software-side and hardware-side, but ????
So when people were having entire transmissions replaced in 2015 and 2016 on the TLX they reportedly changed a couple of components but people with 2016 and 2017 MDX's were still having transmissions replaced and the hardware that was replaced was not enough to change the clunky shifting behavior.

From what I understand, only us car people really notice the strange shifting behaviour. So if you're just looking for an around town cruiser then it should be ok. One other thing I failed to mention is that it still uses a timing belt....I don't know about you but I was done talking about timing belts in the mid 2000's.

I will mention one other thing. The Passport at least has a useable 5000 pound towing capacity whereas the RDX has a laughable 1500 pounds. Bear in mind things like the Audi Q5 and BMW X3 have 4500 pounds. I understand that rear wheel drive based vehicles tend to have better tow capacity but 3000 pounds less? I'm wondering where the weakest link is.
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Old 01-12-2019, 05:53 PM
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The Passport at least has a useable 5000 pound towing capacity whereas the RDX has a laughable 1500 pounds. Bear in mind things like the Audi Q5 and BMW X3 have 4500 pounds. I understand that rear wheel drive based vehicles tend to have better tow capacity but 3000 pounds less? I'm wondering where the weakest link is.
And the Passport Elite level comes with AWD, standard. From what I understand it's the same (or at least 99% the same) as the SH-AWD on the RDX, it just has a different name.
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Old 01-12-2019, 06:15 PM
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And the Passport Elite level comes with AWD, standard. From what I understand it's the same (or at least 99% the same) as the SH-AWD on the RDX, it just has a different name.
Yup exactly, it is SH-AWD with a different name. Though I doubt the Passport is at all a sporty vehicle and the AWD is probably just for better traction not so much traction and handling.
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Old 01-12-2019, 06:31 PM
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Though I doubt the Passport is at all a sporty vehicle and the AWD is probably just for better traction not so much traction and handling.
Tis true.
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That is true, it's a very good idea to go onto a forum of a prospective vehicle and just get a general idea with the caveat that they might not give a full picture.

I personally like the CRV a lot more than the CX-5. I don't know I'm just not fond of the long hood and short body and tiny taillights. The CRV OTOH LOOKS GOOD for the first time in its' existence. But the 1.5T oil issues and the CVT are hard for me to swallow. However if my wife or GF wanted it and it didn't have the 1.5T issues, I'd be on board!
I really need to test drive the CX5 and see for myself. That Signature trim has a lot of premium features (e.g. HUD, power folding mirrors, 360 cameras, LED lighting, etc.) that I really like. I just feel like their infotainment is a big "meh".
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Originally Posted by knhellesky View Post
I really need to test drive the CX5 and see for myself. That Signature trim has a lot of premium features (e.g. HUD, power folding mirrors, 360 cameras, LED lighting, etc.) that I really like. I just feel like their infotainment is a big "meh".
Yeah it's definitely worth a test drive and honestly it's incredibly premium for the segment and price point. I watched a review today on it actually and the infotainment was incredibly slow. Like way too slow. But I mean otherwise it's a great all around package. Something else to mention is that the interior is fairly tight, so make sure to take that into consideration and see if it's big enough for you.


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Old 01-12-2019, 08:43 PM
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Isn't the cargo space really small on the cx-5?
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Isn't the cargo space really small on the cx-5?
Yes! I'm pretty sure it's below average compared to the CRV and RAV4, but am almost positive that it's about the same as the RDX
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Isn't the cargo space really small on the cx-5?
If a large cargo space is important to you, the CX-5 should probably not be on your list. If refinement and performance are, it should be.

I agree, infotainment startup in the morning is slow. Hopefully, it will be addressed in an update.
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but am almost positive that it's about the same as the RDX
Hmm... I thought it was smaller. I might need to take a second look.
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Hmm... I thought it was smaller. I might need to take a second look.
Someone posted a comparison pictures few pages up. From my point of few, few inches on the left room, raised center rear floor and no under carriage. Overall it feels a little smaller than RDX but big difference from RAV4 and CRV
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Yeah it's definitely worth a test drive and honestly it's incredibly premium for the segment and price point. I watched a review today on it actually and the infotainment was incredibly slow. Like way too slow. But I mean otherwise it's a great all around package. Something else to mention is that the interior is fairly tight, so make sure to take that into consideration and see if it's big enough for you.
I think that's what most of the folks are complaining about...and the that the 360 camera resolution is not good. Honestly....I'll take a below average 360 than none at all at this point.

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If a large cargo space is important to you, the CX-5 should probably not be on your list. If refinement and performance are, it should be.

I agree, infotainment startup in the morning is slow. Hopefully, it will be addressed in an update.
Yeah...cargo space is not a concern for me, but I'm pretty sure is a deal-breaker for others. I'm not hauling kids anymore so I'm not too worried about space.
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Dimensions are very similar to my Gen 1 RDX...which makes it attractive to me since I donít need extra space or length.
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Pics of the trunk of both cars with a stroller in the back: https://imgur.com/gallery/mh6Ximx?

Measured capacity is about the same - 30 cubic feet each excluding the RDX's underfloor storage but the shape is different. The RDX has a longer trunk so you get a few more inches front to back.

The CR-V's trunk is MASSIVE - pretty much the biggest trunk you can get in either the compact or mid-size SUV space. It has the biggest trunk for any 2 row SUV that isn't over 200 inches long.
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The CR-V's trunk is MASSIVE - pretty much the biggest trunk you can get in either the compact or mid-size SUV space. It has the biggest trunk for any 2 row SUV that isn't over 200 inches long.
Check out the 2-row 2019 Honda Passport.



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Check out the 2-row 2019 Honda Passport.

Oh yes, thatís the new champ at 41 cubes versus the CRVís 37. Amazing that the Passport is 10 inches longer but only has 4 cubes more.
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Amazing that the Passport is 10 inches longer but only has 4 cubes more.
Extra legroom ??
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The CR-V's trunk is MASSIVE - pretty much the biggest trunk you can get in either the compact or mid-size SUV space. It has the biggest trunk for any 2 row SUV that isn't over 200 inches long.
The Edge's cargo capacity is rated at 39.2. Of course, the Edge is considerably larger than the CRV, which is a marvel of packaging.

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Oh yes, thatís the new champ at 41 cubes versus the CRVís 37. Amazing that the Passport is 10 inches longer but only has 4 cubes more.
Yeah these 2 row mid-size crossovers like the Murano, Edge, Santa fe Sport...etc tend to vastly prioritize rear seat leg room over cargo space.
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Yeah these 2 row mid-size crossovers like the Murano, Edge, Santa fe Sport...etc tend to vastly prioritize rear seat leg room over cargo space.
I believe some of those models have sliding 2nd row seats.
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