2019 RDX marks the rise of Acura
01-20-2018, 10:38 AM
#41
Azine Jabroni
Folks,
Don't get too excited too quickly. Yes, the improvements in the 2019 RDX appear positive, however, I would wait for at least one production year before jumping in. Acura/Honda have had major problems building quality transmissions in many of their models. The transmission judder in the RDX it a good example. Acura made no effort to find a real fix for the problem. I had to get rid of my 2014 RDX. Don't become part of Acura's quality assurance/feedback program!
Don't get too excited too quickly. Yes, the improvements in the 2019 RDX appear positive, however, I would wait for at least one production year before jumping in. Acura/Honda have had major problems building quality transmissions in many of their models. The transmission judder in the RDX it a good example. Acura made no effort to find a real fix for the problem. I had to get rid of my 2014 RDX. Don't become part of Acura's quality assurance/feedback program!
01-20-2018, 06:10 PM
#42
I have to say I agree with him. Furthermore the RDX is the first vehicle to mate the 10 speed (literally still can’t beleive this is a common thing nowadays) to SH-AWD so it is essentially doing something new for Acura and Honda. In terms of the other technologies, I would agree with you there because everything else is old, even the new generation SH-AWD has been on the MDX since 2016.
01-21-2018, 01:23 AM
#43
So is this car not based on the CRV platform? That sounds too implausible for me to comprehend. Both cars are nearly the same size and have similar proportions and seating capabilities. I understand that no other body panels are shared either interior or exterior, but calling it a new platform is too much. Is there a good enough reason to spend on designing a different platform when there CRV is so newly launched. Someone please explain it to me. I would assume something like VW and Audi using same platforms to create different cars.
The engine is shared with Civic & Accord.
The 10 speed transmission is shared with Odyssey and Accord.
Most of the uniqueness is in the exterior and interior design.
But this is fairly normal for all luxury brands, it's not a negative. If you buy a Porsche Macan, it's still based off an Audi.
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01-21-2018, 01:52 PM
#44
Motortrend said it is based off the CRV, but with a modified chassis and different powertrain.
The engine is shared with Civic & Accord.
The 10 speed transmission is shared with Odyssey and Accord.
Most of the uniqueness is in the exterior and interior design.
But this is fairly normal for all luxury brands, it's not a negative. If you buy a Porsche Macan, it's still based off an Audi.
The engine is shared with Civic & Accord.
The 10 speed transmission is shared with Odyssey and Accord.
Most of the uniqueness is in the exterior and interior design.
But this is fairly normal for all luxury brands, it's not a negative. If you buy a Porsche Macan, it's still based off an Audi.
01-21-2018, 01:59 PM
#45
Me too! I also still drive my bought-new 2008 RDX and there's never been a hint of an issue with the turbo. I think I read at the time that Acura/Honda had lab-tested the turbo to 400,000 miles. This has been the most reliable car I've ever owned (and more fun to drive than the second gen), which has made buying a replacement problematic. Hopefully this new RDX will be the answer, though I don't really want or need a car that's six inches longer than the 2008.
01-21-2018, 02:06 PM
#46
Me too! I also still drive my bought-new 2008 RDX and there's never been a hint of an issue with the turbo. I think I read at the time that Acura/Honda had lab-tested the turbo to 400,000 miles. This has been the most reliable car I've ever owned (and more fun to drive than the second gen), which has made buying a replacement problematic. Hopefully this new RDX will be the answer, though I don't really want or need a car that's six inches longer than the 2008.
Which is why I loved the 1G, it was the perfect size. Now everything is getting so large! But in fairness the 1G’s trunk was on the small side and rear seat leg room was a little bit on the low side so I hope they put that extra 6 inches to really good use.
01-21-2018, 03:14 PM
#47
Azine Jabroni
That's so true. The BMW 3 Series is the best example. If you want the true 3 series pedigree, you almost have to go with a 2 series now.
01-21-2018, 04:04 PM
#48
Yesterday, I briefly dropped by the BMW dealership to check out their new third generation X-3. Very classy and beautiful and expensive! But also felt big which has me a little worried about all those extra inches moving up from the Gen 1 RDX to Gen 3. OTOH, I quickly checked out the X-1 which looked and felt like an econobox!
01-21-2018, 07:17 PM
#49
As a trivia note, the X3 is now several inches longer than the first X5. The new RDX will likely be just an inch or two shorter than the first-gen MDX.
01-21-2018, 08:11 PM
#50
The 2 series is the true three series, the new three series is way too large. I totally agree with you.
FWIW even the original 1G X3 had a larger interior space than the 1G X5 at the time. So BMW grew the X5 rather than fix the packaging downfalls. Yup you are correct, the original RDX was 180” long, I expect the new one to be 186”ish long. Which in today’s standards is still considered in the compact class. Let’s just hope it drives anything like the 1G did and NOTHING like the 2G does.
FWIW even the original 1G X3 had a larger interior space than the 1G X5 at the time. So BMW grew the X5 rather than fix the packaging downfalls. Yup you are correct, the original RDX was 180” long, I expect the new one to be 186”ish long. Which in today’s standards is still considered in the compact class. Let’s just hope it drives anything like the 1G did and NOTHING like the 2G does.
01-22-2018, 01:16 PM
#51
There are four lights!
Personally, I'm hoping for 188-190", a similar length to my TLX. I'm giving the RDX a hard look when my TLX lease is done, and I want the extra space. The CDX should satiate the compact crowd whenever, of if ever it comes to our shores.
01-22-2018, 01:35 PM
#52
Team Owner
I get the feeling they're bumping the new RDX and eventual MDX up a notch, and making room for the CDX.
I mean, with what we believe the RDX will come with... it won't be cheap. Unless Acura found a way to do things that no other automaker can... and I don't think that's the case.
But, that's just a guess. I too am a bit surprised the CDX isn't sold in NA. Pretty sure that would sell like hot cakes. Kill off the ILX and have the CDX in it's place. It will sell like a true entry level vehicle would, in terms of volume numbers.
I mean, with what we believe the RDX will come with... it won't be cheap. Unless Acura found a way to do things that no other automaker can... and I don't think that's the case.
But, that's just a guess. I too am a bit surprised the CDX isn't sold in NA. Pretty sure that would sell like hot cakes. Kill off the ILX and have the CDX in it's place. It will sell like a true entry level vehicle would, in terms of volume numbers.
01-22-2018, 01:38 PM
#53
All a question of personal preferences and needs of course. My 1G RDX is nimble and fun to drive in a way the bigger MDX isn’t. If your priority is space, maybe the MDX or equivalent is a better choice.
01-22-2018, 03:28 PM
#54
There are four lights!
My wife gets to drive the bigger vehicle as we use that as the family hauler. We have a 2015 Outback that she really likes, but we aren't looking to replace anytime soon. But I did tell her that when time comes, we'll probably look at replacing the Outback with a MDX. Probably when the 4G MDX gets the MMC, we'll do an upgrade then. I prefer to stay in the mid size for now, and the only reason being that these damn car seats and strollers are so big and chunky. My vehicle is secondary anyway, but it would be nice to have a bit more space and a hatch at the back - the reason I'm looking at a crossover again. I had an X3 with the adaptive suspension and that thing handled GREAT. If Acura can even mimic 80% of that, I'd be pretty happy.
01-22-2018, 03:55 PM
#55
Nuke
My current 2004 TSX was an early release for North America, purchased new in the spring of 2003. . 300,000 km on it now and still going strong with great reliability. Was looking to replace our 2005 Nissan Xtrail with a CRV this year but will closely monitor the RDX. I expect a tech version will be close to 8,000 CAD more than the CRV Touring and may just go for it if available by late summer and depending on the actual specs and reviews. Plusses are the Acura interior, the 10 speed automatic vs the CVT, the extra hp and torque even with the negative of requiring premium fuel, the center stack controls looks great and I prefer the styling over the CRV. There are so many CRVs on the road, nice to have a vehicle a bit different. We are planning a 2.5 month road trip around Canada and the US this fall...if undecided about the RDX, the TSX would still be up for it.
01-22-2018, 05:32 PM
#56
My current 2004 TSX was an early release for North America, purchased new in the spring of 2003. . 300,000 km on it now and still going strong with great reliability. Was looking to replace our 2005 Nissan Xtrail with a CRV this year but will closely monitor the RDX. I expect a tech version will be close to 8,000 CAD more than the CRV Touring and may just go for it if available by late summer and depending on the actual specs and reviews. Plusses are the Acura interior, the 10 speed automatic vs the CVT, the extra hp and torque even with the negative of requiring premium fuel, the center stack controls looks great and I prefer the styling over the CRV. There are so many CRVs on the road, nice to have a vehicle a bit different. We are planning a 2.5 month road trip around Canada and the US this fall...if undecided about the RDX, the TSX would still be up for it.
01-23-2018, 07:25 AM
#57
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Replacing the ILX with the CDX would make them even more of a truck company than they already are - not great for their new "performance" image. I say keep the ILX if they can drastically improve it, or better yet replace it with a 2 or 4-door coupe with a decent powertrain. This is why the CLA and 1-series sold decently despite being their brands' entry-level offerings.
01-23-2018, 11:44 AM
#58
Replacing the ILX with the CDX would make them even more of a truck company than they already are - not great for their new "performance" image. I say keep the ILX if they can drastically improve it, or better yet replace it with a 2 or 4-door coupe with a decent powertrain. This is why the CLA and 1-series sold decently despite being their brands' entry-level offerings.
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01-23-2018, 12:20 PM
#59
There are four lights!
Replacing the ILX with the CDX would make them even more of a truck company than they already are - not great for their new "performance" image. I say keep the ILX if they can drastically improve it, or better yet replace it with a 2 or 4-door coupe with a decent powertrain. This is why the CLA and 1-series sold decently despite being their brands' entry-level offerings.
01-23-2018, 12:21 PM
#60
Any suggestions for a great compact lux SUV? As I mentioned earlier, the X1 didn’t impress me and a major magazine said it handled comparably to the Ford Escape lol. I’m garage-challenged but I’m thinking I may have to squeeze in this new RDX (or possibly X3) to get the features, sportiness and sense of quality I’m looking for.
01-23-2018, 12:32 PM
#61
Team Owner
Porsche is also an SUV company and no longer a sports car company. They have been since the Cayenne came out- and they sell more SUVs than anything else. The purists were/are pissed, but everyone else is quite alright with it, so it seems 
01-23-2018, 01:50 PM
#62
There are four lights!
Any suggestions for a great compact lux SUV? As I mentioned earlier, the X1 didn’t impress me and a major magazine said it handled comparably to the Ford Escape lol. I’m garage-challenged but I’m thinking I may have to squeeze in this new RDX (or possibly X3) to get the features, sportiness and sense of quality I’m looking for.
01-24-2018, 01:10 AM
#64
Drifting
While I am encouraged that most of the RDX Prototype is production ready, I also heard from these interviews that:
1. The production vehicle wheels will be less than 21"
2. This beautiful red colour is NOT going to be available - instead, the RLX red will be
I am wondering why this beautiful red should not be available? It's the same situation with the TLX prototype.... as for the wheels, I surely hope that there will be a 21" wheel upgrade option.
1. The production vehicle wheels will be less than 21"
2. This beautiful red colour is NOT going to be available - instead, the RLX red will be
I am wondering why this beautiful red should not be available? It's the same situation with the TLX prototype.... as for the wheels, I surely hope that there will be a 21" wheel upgrade option.
01-24-2018, 02:24 AM
#65
While I am encouraged that most of the RDX Prototype is production ready, I also heard from these interviews that:
1. The production vehicle wheels will be less than 21"
2. This beautiful red colour is NOT going to be available - instead, the RLX red will be
I am wondering why this beautiful red should not be available? It's the same situation with the TLX prototype.... as for the wheels, I surely hope that there will be a 21" wheel upgrade option.
1. The production vehicle wheels will be less than 21"
2. This beautiful red colour is NOT going to be available - instead, the RLX red will be
I am wondering why this beautiful red should not be available? It's the same situation with the TLX prototype.... as for the wheels, I surely hope that there will be a 21" wheel upgrade option.
That paint is a $6000 upgrade on the NSX. What I don’t understand is how hard is it to make that same color but for like a $500 upgrade? I really don’t understand it. Time and time again I hear how much people like that color but Acura won’t offer it. Sidenote: I LOVE the san marino red from the TLX, MDX, and RLX so BRING IT ON!!!
01-24-2018, 07:22 AM
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I am as excited as many of you to see the new RDX with all the bells and whistles. But guys lets not forget one thing: Acura can't charge the same price as an X3. People won't but their cars. Acura and Infiniti need to remain somehow reasonable. I am not saying that Acura lineup shouldn't have pano, HUD, nice design and etc. But we cannot ask A-Z for $50K lol.
Even Lexus struggles with pricing. Lexus IS is a great car but sales numbers are all time low. Why? Too expensive and people opt in for German cars for that price or they go for Q50 and TLX.
But overall, I am extremely happy with new Acura design and features that they are going to offer. The RDX is very well received by the public and now can't wait to test drive it
Even Lexus struggles with pricing. Lexus IS is a great car but sales numbers are all time low. Why? Too expensive and people opt in for German cars for that price or they go for Q50 and TLX.
But overall, I am extremely happy with new Acura design and features that they are going to offer. The RDX is very well received by the public and now can't wait to test drive it
01-24-2018, 09:25 AM
#67
I am also excited with the new Acura RDX announcement and it ticks a lot of boxes, and I am more excited because hopefully we will see these changes on all of Acura's line up. I was so close to buying the MDX, but did not just because of the infotainment system and how dated it looked. I am not sure if the MDX will have any more added to it than all the new stuff added to the RDX.
Do we have any information on 360 degree camera on the new RDX and parking assist feature? Will there be any improvement in the Acura watch? How doe sit compare to Honda sensing, is the Acura watch superior and have more features than Honda sensing?
Do we have any information on 360 degree camera on the new RDX and parking assist feature? Will there be any improvement in the Acura watch? How doe sit compare to Honda sensing, is the Acura watch superior and have more features than Honda sensing?
01-24-2018, 09:28 AM
#68
Team Owner
That paint is a $6000 upgrade on the NSX. What I don’t understand is how hard is it to make that same color but for like a $500 upgrade? I really don’t understand it. Time and time again I hear how much people like that color but Acura won’t offer it. Sidenote: I LOVE the san marino red from the TLX, MDX, and RLX so BRING IT ON!!!
01-24-2018, 02:41 PM
#69
Iirc the RL had a 3 stage paint coat as well. But with that aside, I am not saying they need to do the same paint job as the NSX for $500, I am saying they should find a way to match the color and at least come close to that paint job for cheap. I also admit to not knowing the intricacies of the paint job either so possibly I am way out to lunch on expecting anything near as nice for a much lower price. With that said, it’s nice to see Acura embracing more bold colors with all models now offering a bright bold red color and that deep blue on the TLX and also that red leather interior on the TLX.
01-24-2018, 08:03 PM
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That paint is a $6000 upgrade on the NSX. What I don’t understand is how hard is it to make that same color but for like a $500 upgrade? I really don’t understand it. Time and time again I hear how much people like that color but Acura won’t offer it. Sidenote: I LOVE the san marino red from the TLX, MDX, and RLX so BRING IT ON!!!
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01-24-2018, 09:35 PM
#72
Drifting
From that video, the Acura guy did say that the new RDX will get this Brilliant Red that the RLX has! So there is hope.... :-)
01-24-2018, 09:39 PM
#73
Drifting
That paint is a $6000 upgrade on the NSX. What I don’t understand is how hard is it to make that same color but for like a $500 upgrade? I really don’t understand it. Time and time again I hear how much people like that color but Acura won’t offer it. Sidenote: I LOVE the san marino red from the TLX, MDX, and RLX so BRING IT ON!!!
01-25-2018, 01:17 AM
#74
Yeah it is, which is crazy. I totally agree, it’s so much like the mazda red, but I’m certain that when it really comes down to it, it is WAY higher quality. Though I would not be opposed to them offering the Mazda paint color either. Basque red just doesn’t do it for me.
01-25-2018, 09:45 AM
#76
Pro
Agreed! I absolutely love that new red color that is currently offered across the board except the RDX. So deep and bold. Remind me a lot of the BMW imola red color.
Yeah it is, which is crazy. I totally agree, it’s so much like the mazda red, but I’m certain that when it really comes down to it, it is WAY higher quality. Though I would not be opposed to them offering the Mazda paint color either. Basque red just doesn’t do it for me.
Yeah it is, which is crazy. I totally agree, it’s so much like the mazda red, but I’m certain that when it really comes down to it, it is WAY higher quality. Though I would not be opposed to them offering the Mazda paint color either. Basque red just doesn’t do it for me.
01-25-2018, 01:51 PM
#77
I think you’re misunderstanding what I was trying to say. I was saying I am sure the $6000 paint job on the NSX is much better quality than the Mazda soul red mica paint color even though they look somewhat similar. In terms of the standard Acura paint on the mainstream models, it is has been my experience that Acura uses very “soft” paint and this tends to show wear quite fast as opposed to the germans who tend to use very “hard” paint.
01-26-2018, 05:46 AM
#78
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I think you’re misunderstanding what I was trying to say. I was saying I am sure the $6000 paint job on the NSX is much better quality than the Mazda soul red mica paint color even though they look somewhat similar. In terms of the standard Acura paint on the mainstream models, it is has been my experience that Acura uses very “soft” paint and this tends to show wear quite fast as opposed to the germans who tend to use very “hard” paint.
01-26-2018, 08:57 AM
#79
mrgold35
I think Acura should turn the ILX into a 5-door hatch or atleast offer that as an option. It is a toss up for me with the CDX or a 5-door ILX hatchback. I can't see the CDX with anything other than the 1.5L turbo from the CR-V with a 91 octane requirement (along with the same crappy CR-V awd system). Acura could do a ILX coupe, sedan, 5-door hatch with sh-awd, add a detuned version of the RDX 2.0L turbo, 306hp 2.0L Type-S Turbo, 10AT, or 6MT. I think the Civic 5-door hatch out performs and has more space than the HR-V in every single category. Why wouldn't an ILX 5-door hatch and CDX be any different? Acura isn't doing a good job at entry level vehicles to appeal to the younger generation to hook them early like they did in the Acura Integra days.
The 3rd Gen RDX is within my price range; but, I will still keep my 08 RDX because there is nothing wrong with it with +146,000 miles on her. I'm really holding out for the spec sheets and the first comparison tests on YouTube, on Motorweek, and from car magazines. I will be happy if Acura (and Infiniti) can start to get mentioned in the same breath as BMW, MB, Audi, Jag, Alfa Romeo, Lexus, and Caddy again.
The 3rd Gen RDX is within my price range; but, I will still keep my 08 RDX because there is nothing wrong with it with +146,000 miles on her. I'm really holding out for the spec sheets and the first comparison tests on YouTube, on Motorweek, and from car magazines. I will be happy if Acura (and Infiniti) can start to get mentioned in the same breath as BMW, MB, Audi, Jag, Alfa Romeo, Lexus, and Caddy again.
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01-26-2018, 04:15 PM
#80
I think Acura should turn the ILX into a 5-door hatch or atleast offer that as an option. It is a toss up for me with the CDX or a 5-door ILX hatchback. I can't see the CDX with anything other than the 1.5L turbo from the CR-V with a 91 octane requirement (along with the same crappy CR-V awd system). Acura could do a ILX coupe, sedan, 5-door hatch with sh-awd, add a detuned version of the RDX 2.0L turbo, 306hp 2.0L Type-S Turbo, 10AT, or 6MT. I think the Civic 5-door hatch out performs and has more space than the HR-V in every single category. Why wouldn't an ILX 5-door hatch and CDX be any different? Acura isn't doing a good job at entry level vehicles to appeal to the younger generation to hook them early like they did in the Acura Integra days.
The 3rd Gen RDX is within my price range; but, I will still keep my 08 RDX because there is nothing wrong with it with +146,000 miles on her. I'm really holding out for the spec sheets and the first comparison tests on YouTube, on Motorweek, and from car magazines. I will be happy if Acura (and Infiniti) can start to get mentioned in the same breath as BMW, MB, Audi, Jag, Alfa Romeo, Lexus, and Caddy again.
The 3rd Gen RDX is within my price range; but, I will still keep my 08 RDX because there is nothing wrong with it with +146,000 miles on her. I'm really holding out for the spec sheets and the first comparison tests on YouTube, on Motorweek, and from car magazines. I will be happy if Acura (and Infiniti) can start to get mentioned in the same breath as BMW, MB, Audi, Jag, Alfa Romeo, Lexus, and Caddy again.