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2019 RDX experience in San Diego




$5k market adjustment


Espresso interior is beautiful

Went to Kearny Mesa Acura dealership earlier to check out the new RDX. Going to buy either this or an RX350 in September or October.... They didn't allow a test drive but allowed me to look inside it. White with espresso is beautiful! The wheels are pretty ugly. The technology package wheels looks way better. Interior quality is dramatically increased, 98% to Lexus quality.

Advance package with a $5,000 market adjustment. They want 51k for this car..😂😂😂😂..
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That's hilarious. I can imagine negotiations. "Okay since we're friends now, I'll let it go for sticker price - a $5k discount. You really wore me down on this one."
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That's hilarious. I can imagine negotiations. "Okay since we're friends now, I'll let it go for sticker price - a $5k discount. You really wore me down on this one."
I quickly asked about the price and they said they're not budging but they'll work with me on accessories if I'm interested 😂😂😂.. I told him, I hope these beautiful cars don't sit on the lot like the NSX for months due to greedy dealerships.
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$5k markup and they wouldn’t let you test drive it? What a bunch of clowns!
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You say, "MARKET VALUE ADJUSTMENT." I say, "Take a very long walk on a very short pier."
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"Market adjustments" are insane in all cases, even on limited-edition models where other dealers are willing to sell for MSRP. I hope no one caves to this dealer's greed.

(That Espresso is indeed tasteful, though I'm not sure how great it goes with the wood grain.)
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Originally Posted by NightWriter
"Market adjustments" are insane in all cases, even on limited-edition models where other dealers are willing to sell for MSRP. I hope no one caves to this dealer's greed.

(That Espresso is indeed tasteful, though I'm not sure how great it goes with the wood grain.)
I agree, I think the espresso looks very nice, but NOT with the single style of wood trim Honda offers. To me this is another frustrating example of why Acura is still so behind other luxury brands.. the extremely limited combinations. I understand it's to cut costs, but if they want to attract customers over from competing brands, they need to offer more choices.

The 5K inflation is laughable - they finally make a desirable model but seem to forget that they're still an Acura dealer... the brand best known for 'value'..
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Wow. That's amazing. What a crock-o-crap. To offer a discount on accessories after adding $5K extra markup (which instantly disappears when you drive off the lot and the car becomes used) is insulting.
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OP, you should have told the salesman that you'll be back in six months, when they have twenty RDXs sitting on the lot and they finally decide to pull their heads out of their asses.
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OP, you should have told the salesman that you'll be back in six months, when they have twenty RDXs sitting on the lot and they finally decide to pull their heads out of their asses.
I hate this dealership, I just go here because it's down the street from my house. I honestly don't know how they're still in business. They've had this same attitude everytime I've been there when Acura releases a model that I take interest in.

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2014 MDX - same 5k mark-up.. Brother laughed at them and went to go buy a GX460 (yuck)
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2017 TLX Aspec - 4K mark-up
2019 RDX - 5K mark up

Acura should BAN dealers like this from their network
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5K markup and they didn't allow a test drive? Wow. I test drove the RDX last week and the sales guy didn't bother to ask for my license. These guys are trash.
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Originally Posted by twiz03
I quickly asked about the price and they said they're not budging but they'll work with me on accessories if I'm interested 😂😂😂.. I told him, I hope these beautiful cars don't sit on the lot like the NSX for months due to greedy dealerships.
give it 30 days and that market adjustment will be gone. I went to Lexus as the wife wanted Tory a RX350 before the RDX dropper and they had a car with $8K in dealer BS options and they were pushing for such a great deal because it was $8K discounted, yeah right.

in 90 days the new RDX will be plentiful and the discounting will get real.
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5K markup and they didn't allow a test drive? Wow. I test drove the RDX last week and the sales guy didn't bother to ask for my license. These guys are trash.
My dealer offered to drive one to my office so I could do a test drive! Just shows how some dealers are run different from others.
If you don't need a car right now (like myself), wait a few months for sure. I'm not even going to test drive for another couple of months. I don't want to get sucked in and let emotions take over.
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Originally Posted by FLYGUY31
My dealer offered to drive one to my office so I could do a test drive! Just shows how some dealers are run different from others.
If you don't need a car right now (like myself), wait a few months for sure. I'm not even going to test drive for another couple of months. I don't want to get sucked in and let emotions take over.

me too. I have no immediate need for a car, but I want to upgrade to one with the new driving aids. I am targeting for the end of the year. By then, things will have settled down.
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me too. I have no immediate need for a car, but I want to upgrade to one with the new driving aids. I am targeting for the end of the year. By then, things will have settled down.
This is the best thing to do. Not only do you get a much better deal, you also get a later production run model.


In terms of your dealer having a 5K markup, that’s hilarious, especially on an Acura. This is going to be the Accord scenario all over again for some of these dealers. Remember how poor Accord sales were (still are?) for a while because the lease/finance rates were ridiculous? So Honda started dropping large rebates and price reductions to move more units. It seems to me like Honda/Acura have a tendency to be rather greedy each time a new model comes out. I can understand being more unwilling to drop the price but don’t insult people with a 5-10k markup,
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It is still a freakin Honda ... ok then Acura brand ... LMAO
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Originally Posted by RDX10


This is the best thing to do. Not only do you get a much better deal, you also get a later production run model.


In terms of your dealer having a 5K markup, that’s hilarious, especially on an Acura. This is going to be the Accord scenario all over again for some of these dealers. Remember how poor Accord sales were (still are?) for a while because the lease/finance rates were ridiculous? So Honda started dropping large rebates and price reductions to move more units. It seems to me like Honda/Acura have a tendency to be rather greedy each time a new model comes out. I can understand being more unwilling to drop the price but don’t insult people with a 5-10k markup,
Nothing will change in six months.

It's supply vs. demand. Also, Honda/Acura have no control over dealers putting market adjustments on their cars. Dodge tried it with either the HC or Demon, and that didn't even work for them on a limited production car. Ford can't even keep people from flipping the GT, and they only built a couple hundred of them. How is Acura supposed to control the price of tens of thousands of units?
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thanks for sharing. I hope some ass does pay this and then sees how much it hurts to sell down the road. that would push me into the arms of Audi BMW or anything
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It is still a freakin Honda ... ok then Acura brand ... LMAO
Laugh all you want, but Honda has built itself a reputation of extreme reliability (even though that couldn't be further from the truth these days), and that in itself allows them to sell at the price points they do. People are willing to pay more for a more reliable product if they know it will save them in the long run. A friend of mine who used to sell Hondas was telling me that they don't rely on incentives as much as they rely on their perceived reliability to move cars. By the end of the day, people want a Honda are willing to pay whatever it takes to get into that Honda. And judging by what we are seeing, paying 5k over the MSRP is apparently not unheard of.
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I have an 05 TL I bought brand new. I am in the market for a new car. I was fairly certain I'd be buying a Q5 or XC60. However the 2019 RDX is on top of my list. I'll likely go for the A-Spec with tech package. I'll wait until late summer or early fall. It's outrageous that this dealership is trying to mark up by $5K. I am not sure who would think that's reasonable. The dealer is already getting a cushion above the MSRP.
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Dealers are already offering 1-2k+ off the RDX. Most know its just a Acura. Finally a better than decent one that doesn't rely solely on being the best value "Luxury" vehicle. Throwing a markup on the RDX is just silly.
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I love Hondas. I have had at least one Honda in my driveway since 1981.

But an Acura is a Honda in a suit, or on steroids. My Integra was a Civic that could literally fly. My snobby nosed sister-in-law leased a TL a few generations ago, and got offended when I said it was (and it was ) an Accord with a suit on, and a more powerful engine. She got irate. I said that that was not a put-down, that I loved Accords, and had two of them (at the time). She said it was nothing like an Accord, and her TL was made in Japan. I said, no it ain’t, it is made in Marysville Ohio, on the same line as the Accord. Look on the plate in the car.

She walked off in a huff.

Knowing that B, when she got home she must have checked it out and saw I was right. She never leased another Acura again.


That this RDX is not a CRV in a suit is very interesting to me, and makes it a whole different car. Not that a Honda in a well made suit is a bad thing, because it isn’t. But don’t tell that B that.
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Laugh all you want, but Honda has built itself a reputation of extreme reliability (even though that couldn't be further from the truth these days), and that in itself allows them to sell at the price points they do. People are willing to pay more for a more reliable product if they know it will save them in the long run. A friend of mine who used to sell Hondas was telling me that they don't rely on incentives as much as they rely on their perceived reliability to move cars. By the end of the day, people want a Honda are willing to pay whatever it takes to get into that Honda. And judging by what we are seeing, paying 5k over the MSRP is apparently not unheard of.
Well , why dont you buy it then .....
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Laugh all you want, but Honda has built itself a reputation of extreme reliability (even though that couldn't be further from the truth these days), and that in itself allows them to sell at the price points they do. People are willing to pay more for a more reliable product if they know it will save them in the long run. A friend of mine who used to sell Hondas was telling me that they don't rely on incentives as much as they rely on their perceived reliability to move cars. By the end of the day, people want a Honda are willing to pay whatever it takes to get into that Honda. And judging by what we are seeing, paying 5k over the MSRP is apparently not unheard of.
A Honda, yes, but an Acura, probably not. Yes, they are the same company, but different customers. The luxury vehicle shopper's priority is probably not going to be "how reliable is this car" - that's for the mainstream brands. The bulk of the premium market is largely based on emotion - the "I gotta have it" factor. Not the logical, long term investment view. I suspect the only ones paying $5k (or even 3k) over MSRP on an Acura in 2018 are probably only the Honda fanboys that have never ventured outside of the brand.
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At least you can go to another dealership. Only dealership on Oahu wants $4500 over MSRP for the ASPEC.
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Originally Posted by RDX10


This is the best thing to do. Not only do you get a much better deal, you also get a later production run model.


In terms of your dealer having a 5K markup, that’s hilarious, especially on an Acura. This is going to be the Accord scenario all over again for some of these dealers. Remember how poor Accord sales were (still are?) for a while because the lease/finance rates were ridiculous? So Honda started dropping large rebates and price reductions to move more units. It seems to me like Honda/Acura have a tendency to be rather greedy each time a new model comes out. I can understand being more unwilling to drop the price but don’t insult people with a 5-10k markup,
I know, when I saw the picture of the window sticker at $51K, I was thought oh lord, here we go... Reminds me of just about two years ago when a fully loaded RDX was only about $42K, hence, the price hike, and yikes... But I find that wildly high from where it left off and whoever waits a few months shouldn't take that price ouch...

And Honda and Acura know that they have a following of guys like us that walk around innocently with dozens of wallets filled with hundred dollar bills and a man bag with another 5 to 15 grand in it too, so maybe we should dress poorer on car shopping days:/
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Originally Posted by DevineRDX
At least you can go to another dealership. Only dealership on Oahu wants $4500 over MSRP for the ASPEC.
Good to know. Wife and I noticed they received the new RDX’s and planned to check them out this weekend. But, with that kind of markup, no thanks.
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Originally Posted by dcmod
It is still a freakin Honda ... ok then Acura brand ... LMAO
It is still a freakin Toyota ... ok then Lexus brand ... LMAO
It is still a freakin Nissan ... ok then Infiniti brand ... LMAO
It is still a freakin Hyundai ... ok then Genesis brand ... LMAO
It is still a freakin Ford ... ok then Lincoln brand ... LMAO
It is still a freakin Volkwagen ... ok then Audi brand ... LMAO
It is still a freakin Mini ... ok then BMW brand ... LMAO
It is still a freakin Chevy ... ok then Cadillac brand ... LMAO
It is still a freakin Communist... ok then Socialist brand ... LMAO

:gheylaugh:
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Originally Posted by birdonamission
It is still a freakin Toyota ... ok then Lexus brand ... LMAO
It is still a freakin Nissan ... ok then Infiniti brand ... LMAO
It is still a freakin Hyundai ... ok then Genesis brand ... LMAO
It is still a freakin Ford ... ok then Lincoln brand ... LMAO
It is still a freakin Volkwagen ... ok then Audi brand ... LMAO
It is still a freakin Mini ... ok then BMW brand ... LMAO
It is still a freakin Chevy ... ok then Cadillac brand ... LMAO
It is still a freakin Communist... ok then Socialist brand ... LMAO

:gheylaugh:
looks like someone struck a nerve. lol
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Originally Posted by TLX17
looks like someone struck a nerve. lol
Who?
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The Honda dealer closest to me adds about $2,500 of bogus accessories (appearance package, etching, etc.) to the sticker of every car in stock. The Acura dealer right next door, which is owned by the same company, does not add anything to the sticker of any of their cars. Go figure.
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Originally Posted by TLX17
looks like someone struck a nerve. lol
Naah, me and Bird are savvy trolls ,, just looking for a great deal while having fun
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Originally Posted by Madd Dog
I love Hondas. I have had at least one Honda in my driveway since 1981.

But an Acura is a Honda in a suit, or on steroids. My Integra was a Civic that could literally fly. My snobby nosed sister-in-law leased a TL a few generations ago, and got offended when I said it was (and it was ) an Accord with a suit on, and a more powerful engine. She got irate. I said that that was not a put-down, that I loved Accords, and had two of them (at the time). She said it was nothing like an Accord, and her TL was made in Japan. I said, no it ain’t, it is made in Marysville Ohio, on the same line as the Accord. Look on the plate in the car.

She walked off in a huff.

Knowing that B, when she got home she must have checked it out and saw I was right. She never leased another Acura again.


That this RDX is not a CRV in a suit is very interesting to me, and makes it a whole different car. Not that a Honda in a well made suit is a bad thing, because it isn’t. But don’t tell that B that.

I totally agree, and VERY cool story, loved that read, it made my day!!!
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Someone will walk in and buy that RDX 5k over MSRP. Honda was putting out about 230k cars a year at their marysville, OH plant. In liberty, estimates are 60k production of new RDX through May 2020 (based on Acura GM prediction). Whether this happens or not or goes over remains to be seen. Sooner or later supply will catch up to demand and RDX's will sit on lots and pricing will stabilize.

However, today, I've heard of people paying below MSRP but perhaps they are few and far between. I've decided to wait until 2020 and let the market relax some, fix issues with new design and replace the tail light with a LED!!
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Originally Posted by cruiserchuck
The Honda dealer closest to me adds about $2,500 of bogus accessories (appearance package, etching, etc.) to the sticker of every car in stock. The Acura dealer right next door, which is owned by the same company, does not add anything to the sticker of any of their cars. Go figure.
Maybe because the Acura clientele would not stand for those useless and overpriced accessories. I know I wouldn't. I once had a salesman tell me that they couldn't "uninstall" it.
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Where I live, in the beautiful Hudson Valley, there are always multiple dealers for everything except Maseratis and Lambos, etc., I have 4 Acura, 4 BMW, and 4 MB dealers within 25 miles. My brother, who lives in Iowa, is usually stuck with one dealer, so his options are limited. In fact, there are several brands he won’t buy because the dealerships are horrible.

I feel for people like that, but there is little they can do about it.
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Originally Posted by Madd Dog
Where I live, in the beautiful Hudson Valley, there are always multiple dealers for everything except Maseratis and Lambos, etc., I have 4 Acura, 4 BMW, and 4 MB dealers within 25 miles. My brother, who lives in Iowa, is usually stuck with one dealer, so his options are limited. In fact, there are several brands he won’t buy because the dealerships are horrible.

I feel for people like that, but there is little they can do about it.
Maybe he can fly in for a visit and buy his new RDX in the Hudson Valley and then drive it back to Iowa. It‘ll be a first-class ride all the way back.
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Laugh all you want, but Honda has built itself a reputation of extreme reliability (even though that couldn't be further from the truth these days), and that in itself allows them to sell at the price points they do. People are willing to pay more for a more reliable product if they know it will save them in the long run. A friend of mine who used to sell Hondas was telling me that they don't rely on incentives as much as they rely on their perceived reliability to move cars. By the end of the day, people want a Honda are willing to pay whatever it takes to get into that Honda. And judging by what we are seeing, paying 5k over the MSRP is apparently not unheard of.
In my area it will settle down. I can laugh because I know my market. It is just a mid level SUV and no one is falling over for these in 6 months.The prices will drop unless someone wants to pay MSRP or more and the dealer will happily take that money. This RDX is not as special as we had hope as there are still some shortfalls but better than previous generation. Yes Honda does have a reliability reputation but money speaks more than reputation for most buyers. If they keep the price marked up, buyers will look at other options and then the price will fall nonetheless. I purchase for Reliability but can easily go elsewhere if price is an issue. I believe others will do the same. It is just the same new car syndrome that dealers try to use while they can. I cant blame them as they know sales will dry up in the winter due to holidays and the first of the year.
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