2019 RDX Advance SHAWD vs. 2019 RAV4 AWD Limited/Hybrid
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2019 RDX Advance SHAWD vs. 2019 RAV4 AWD Limited/Hybrid
HI,
I am in a bit of a dilemma in choosing between the 2019 RDX Advance SHAWD and 2019 RAV4 AWD Limited/Hybrid. The new RAV4 is released in a month or so and has good specs and reviews. It has AWD with torque vectoring (limited and adventure versions). Also comes with many features like ventilated and heated seats, Toyota safety sense, 19 inch wheels, 8 inch screen, panoramic roof etc.
Wonder if any one looked at this comparison and perhaps could share their thoughts? Thanks!
I am in a bit of a dilemma in choosing between the 2019 RDX Advance SHAWD and 2019 RAV4 AWD Limited/Hybrid. The new RAV4 is released in a month or so and has good specs and reviews. It has AWD with torque vectoring (limited and adventure versions). Also comes with many features like ventilated and heated seats, Toyota safety sense, 19 inch wheels, 8 inch screen, panoramic roof etc.
Wonder if any one looked at this comparison and perhaps could share their thoughts? Thanks!
#3
Burning Brakes
For me their current grill design reminds me of a carp - you know, the fish.
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#4
Thank you. I agree, I also hate their grills. However, looks they are changing a bit for RAV4....check here...https://www.toyota.com/upcoming-vehi......doesn't look too bad!
#5
corrected the link....https://www.toyota.com/upcoming-vehicles/RAV4/
#7
Null and proud of it
Seems like the bew Rav4 will be nice, BUT, why are you cross shopping a cheap Toyota to an Acura? Well, on second thoght, my cross shops never make any sence... In fact, I sold a TL for a Kia, no, I better just shut up...
RDX>Rav4
RDX>Rav4
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#8
The reason I am cross shopping is based on these: 1. Reliability is more important to me over power (200+HP Rav4 vs 272 HP RDX) - I am not sure if there is a delta between Toyota and Acura reliability 2. Somewhat luxurious - so I am hoping a top end trim of RAV4 would close the luxury gap with Acura (but I understand there still will be some difference) 3. My budget is between 40K to 50K 4. Less operational and service costs 5. Last but not the least, the features I would like in my next SUV - ventilated seats, panoramic roof, AWD with torque vectoring, and Apple car play.
Based on my requirements, both 2019 Acura RDX and RAV4 (atleast on paper) come very close. I think as Coolguy suggested I should test drive both on the same day to get a feel for the driving dynamics and comfort of these vehicles.
Based on my requirements, both 2019 Acura RDX and RAV4 (atleast on paper) come very close. I think as Coolguy suggested I should test drive both on the same day to get a feel for the driving dynamics and comfort of these vehicles.
#10
Why not? As I mentioned, I narrowed down to these two vehicles based on my requirements (I crossed so many like the X3, Q5, XC40, CRV, etc.). You may disagree but I tend to think many top trim mainstream vehicles are closing the gaps with the luxury/premium ones - no?
#11
Burning Brakes
In theory and on paper possibly, but not when it comes to execution. You can't make a vehicle for $40K that has the fit, finish, and overall 'feel' of one that sells for $50K. The features may be the same but not the implementation and integration.
Last edited by MI-RDX; 10-24-2018 at 05:10 PM.
#12
Go and drive it, don't pay too much attention to people belittling the Rav4, it's a very subjective thing. I think the current one is trash but someone may think they are really nice. It's all about what you are ok with and what you are accustomed to.
One note, I don't know what the Rav4 AWD system is going to be, but many brands use the words torque vectoring when it really isn't. They use brake based vectoring vs true differential or clutch based (like on the RDX). SH-AWD is truly the best system in the game IME and IMO. So I don't think you can compare the two, but maybe the system on the Rav is way different 🤷🏻♂️.
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Yeah, forget the names, look at the details of execution. Audi calls their Haldex slip-and-grip system Quattro. They also call their Torsen system Quattro as well. Brake-vectoring is not a torque vectoring AWD system.
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#16
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The 8.3 sec 0-60 mph would be a showstopper for me, and that's the non-hybrid. The 2019 does look like a much improved version of the RAV4, with decent cargo space.
https://www.toyotaofdallas.com/toyot.../2019-rav4.htm
https://www.toyotaofdallas.com/toyot.../2019-rav4.htm
#17
Null and proud of it
I looked at pics when the new Rav4 was released, and honestly, it seems nice!!! HP is now up to 203 with the 8AT vs the old 178HP 6AT combo... I think that the new Rav4 will be much cheaper to own and operate... Go for a drive!!!
However, in the long run, the RDX is still a superior vechicle, but, maybe not by much...
However, in the long run, the RDX is still a superior vechicle, but, maybe not by much...
#18
We were sort of in the same boat, but considering a loaded crv or rdx. Crv and rav4 are very similar class of vehicle. Once you load these things up with options, you are within ~$6k of an rdx. The crv and and rav4 are very sensible vehicles, but are not in the same class as an rdx, regardless of how many options. I’m not talking about the badge/image aspect, they are completely different vehicles, including size. Just drive them back to back. We wanted to be sensible and get a Honda and we don’t like driving flashy vehicles, but It was just a no brainer when we compared the price of loaded crv to a tech rdx.
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Reliability I'd go with the Acura... for one reason and one reason alone. The engine bay and areas that need service are very easy to get to... compared to the Rav4. I literally go "wtf..." when I look at it.
'19 Rav4 Engine(s):
'19 Rav4 Hybrid Engine:
'19 Acura Engine:
Ultimately, I think servicing and the safety of '19 Acura RDX is far superior to the Rav4. They don't even really mention the safety features. Acura designed the frame/platform from scratch with safety in mind.
'19 Rav4 Engine(s):
'19 Rav4 Hybrid Engine:
'19 Acura Engine:
Ultimately, I think servicing and the safety of '19 Acura RDX is far superior to the Rav4. They don't even really mention the safety features. Acura designed the frame/platform from scratch with safety in mind.
Last edited by OliveBread; 10-24-2018 at 10:38 PM.
#20
We were sort of in the same boat, but considering a loaded crv or rdx. Crv and rav4 are very similar class of vehicle. Once you load these things up with options, you are within ~$6k of an rdx. The crv and and rav4 are very sensible vehicles, but are not in the same class as an rdx, regardless of how many options. I’m not talking about the badge/image aspect, they are completely different vehicles, including size. Just drive them back to back. We wanted to be sensible and get a Honda and we don’t like driving flashy vehicles, but It was just a no brainer when we compared the price of loaded crv to a tech rdx.
But for real, go test drive them and see how you feel. You might walk away very impressed or disappointed with either one.
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Azine Jabroni
Reliability I'd go with the Acura... for one reason and one reason alone. The engine bay and areas that need service are very easy to get to... compared to the Rav4. I literally go "wtf..." when I look at it.
'19 Rav4 Engine(s):
'19 Rav4 Hybrid Engine:
'19 Acura Engine:
Ultimately, I think servicing and the safety of '19 Acura RDX is far superior to the Rav4. They don't even really mention the safety features. Acura designed the frame/platform from scratch with safety in mind.
'19 Rav4 Engine(s):
'19 Rav4 Hybrid Engine:
'19 Acura Engine:
Ultimately, I think servicing and the safety of '19 Acura RDX is far superior to the Rav4. They don't even really mention the safety features. Acura designed the frame/platform from scratch with safety in mind.
#22
Burning Brakes
That said my experience with Honda has been the same. I owned an Accord that I literally beat the crap out of to the tune of well over 35K miles a year and it never once caused me any grief. My wife is still driving an '02 Civic that she refuses to get rid of - it's like the Energizer bunny, it just keeps going, and going, and going, and.......
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Instructor
I’m still holding that RDX beats Rav4 in reliability and accessibility and just overall easier to maintain.
Last edited by OliveBread; 10-25-2018 at 09:13 AM.
#25
If you want to cross-shop a Rav4, a CR-X is more appropriate. Neither really match-up with an RDX.
Dealer experience alone is night and day difference.
Dealer experience alone is night and day difference.
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#27
Good point - Thanks. However I am looking more at the limited edition. Hybrid comes with a CVT - not a big fan of that!
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The only other vehicle I'd entertain, besides the RAV4 is the new Mazda CX5. They are putting a turbo option in for 2019 and it is a very sporty and nice driving SUV. Always gets solid reviews in all of the car mags I subscribe to. Toyota's are reliable but VERY BORING and not fun to drive at all.
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The only other vehicle I'd entertain, besides the RAV4 is the new Mazda CX5. They are putting a turbo option in for 2019 and it is a very sporty and nice driving SUV. Always gets solid reviews in all of the car mags I subscribe to. Toyota's are reliable but VERY BORING and not fun to drive at all.
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RDX vs Lexus nx 300
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The only other vehicle I'd entertain, besides the RAV4 is the new Mazda CX5. They are putting a turbo option in for 2019 and it is a very sporty and nice driving SUV. Always gets solid reviews in all of the car mags I subscribe to. Toyota's are reliable but VERY BORING and not fun to drive at all.
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#36
Lmao the CX5 does not have ANYTHING on your must have list. No cooled seats, no pano roof, no Apple CarPlay, and no true torque vectoring AWD system. Hmm now that I am thinking about it, I understand why it has such a high quality feel, it's making up for a LARGE lack of some crucial features IMO.
Last edited by RDX10; 10-27-2018 at 03:38 AM.
#38
Yeah no pano roof for sure and no proper torque vectoring AWD system. At least not this generation.
#39
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The spec sheet for the US is leaked but I forget where I saw the link. Even had pricing at like $34,xxx for the Grand Touring Reserve and $36,xxx for Signature I believe which are the 2 trims getting the turbo.
*Edit*
Found the reddit link for the US order guide - https://www.reddit.com/r/mazda/comme...rbo_available/
*Edit*
Found the reddit link for the US order guide - https://www.reddit.com/r/mazda/comme...rbo_available/
Last edited by Bilybobjef; 10-27-2018 at 10:37 PM.
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The spec sheet for the US is leaked but I forget where I saw the link. Even had pricing at like $34,xxx for the Grand Touring Reserve and $36,xxx for Signature I believe which are the 2 trims getting the turbo.
*Edit*
Found the reddit link for the US order guide - https://www.reddit.com/r/mazda/comme...rbo_available/
*Edit*
Found the reddit link for the US order guide - https://www.reddit.com/r/mazda/comme...rbo_available/
In Canada the current GT goes for around 40k, wonder how high that pushes the signature trimx really bumping against some very premium competitors at that price point.