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Old 07-11-2018, 04:25 PM
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2019 RDX Advance

I have a few questions hoping someone can help....by the way the vehicle is amazing!

1) Can you turn on the fog lights without headlights on? Is there a way to do this?

2) Can you zoom in on navigation screen? Noticed it is always zoomed out.

3) Can you turn bass on further for subwoofer alone or is it just bass in general that can be increased?

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Originally Posted by wendtdc13 View Post
I have a few questions hoping someone can help....by the way the vehicle is amazing!

1) Can you turn on the fog lights without headlights on? Is there a way to do this?

2) Can you zoom in on navigation screen? Noticed it is always zoomed out.

3) Can you turn bass on further for subwoofer alone or is it just bass in general that can be increased?

Thank you so much.
Great questions. I can answer 2 of them.
1. No, fog lights come on only with the headlights. And this is pretty much "normal" with most all vehicles I've owned...and that has been many.
2. There is only 1 adjustment for the "Bass".....none separate for the sub. I wondered about his too, since previous versions of the ELS system allowed for both.
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Regarding the bass - itís all about how you EQ the mix of treble, mids, and bass. Donít just turn the bass all the way up (to a whopping 6). It will just make everything muddy. Depending on your source and style of music you may need to tinker but once you do, and get it right, itíll be more impactful than trying to shake the mirror off.
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It also doesnt have a separate subwoofer anymore either.
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It also doesnt have a separate subwoofer anymore either.
It takes some research, BUT, you are incorrect. There is a 20cm sub woofer mounted in an enclosure in the right sidewall of the cargo area.

Why it does not have a separate control...not positive, but, after doing some studying of this system....and I'm by no means a designer or true audiophile, what I get from the design of the system, it is integrated in such a way that
they only needed to have 1 Bass adjustment.

If you read DEEP about this design collaboration...with Panasonic and their chief speaker designer for 37 yrs, along with Elliot Schieners' guidance, this was quite the project....esp. designing speakers that spread music although
being so thin....and that is the ones in the headliner. Many of their new designs are proprietary.

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If you use the explore feature while in the NAV it has zoom in and out buttons.
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If you use the explore feature while in the NAV it has zoom in and out buttons.
But according to the other thread, that's kind of useless because most people want to be zoomed in more than the default while the Nav is actively tracking ie, car position is centered--it snaps back to the default when out of explore mode. I haven't used the 2018 RDX nav to any great extent, but all other cars and the standalone Garmin I have can set the zoom level so you can see more detail and it stays while using the nav whether currently navigating to a destination or not.
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But according to the other thread, that's kind of useless because most people want to be zoomed in more than the default while the Nav is actively tracking ie, car position is centered--it snaps back to the default when out of explore mode. I haven't used the 2018 RDX nav to any great extent, but all other cars and the standalone Garmin I have can set the zoom level so you can see more detail and it stays while using the nav whether currently navigating to a destination or not.
Ah I was not aware while it's tracking a route that it zoomed back out.
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Ah I was not aware while it's tracking a route that it zoomed back out.
Yeah, it's got to be a feature that's broken or was inadvertently left out of the final build of the Nav system, hopefully it will be updated for next years model and pushed to current owners
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Yeah, it's got to be a feature that's broken or was inadvertently left out of the final build of the Nav system, hopefully it will be updated for next years model and pushed to current owners
Agree, but OMG I hope we don't have to wait for next fall to get the "push". Nothing was promised about zoom on the Nav display, but it looks like the map update mechanism isn't working as promised, so maybe a Nav software update will be forthcoming.
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So would you say that aspec is overall more sportier ride than advanced?
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So would you say that aspec is overall more sportier ride than advanced?
Sportier...meaning harder ride??? Yes, I think so. My A-Spec rides harder than I expected on certain roads.

The Advance has the dampers that adjust based on what you set the Dynamic Drive Mode to. So, the word is it can ride pretty damn good.
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Yea, I would be interested in stiffer/harder suspension. If both are in the same mode: sport or normal, which one has more stiffness in suspension? When I test drove they only had tech package, would ASPEC be any stiffer? I know it has 20” tires which can make it appear stiffer, other than tire size, do they use different suspension in tech vs aspec?
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Yea, I would be interested in stiffer/harder suspension. If both are in the same mode: sport or normal, which one has more stiffness in suspension? When I test drove they only had tech package, would ASPEC be any stiffer? I know it has 20Ē tires which can make it appear stiffer, other than tire size, do they use different suspension in tech vs aspec?
According to Acura, the A-Spec has a re-tuned suspension...stiffer yes. But, those dampers "self adjust" unlike the Advance, where you can "make them" change their ride quality.

The A-Spec dampers are kinda "harsh" in my opinion. Lot rougher than Gen 2 RDX's for sure.
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According to Acura, the A-Spec has a re-tuned suspension...stiffer yes. But, those dampers "self adjust" unlike the Advance, where you can "make them" change their ride quality.

The A-Spec dampers are kinda "harsh" in my opinion. Lot rougher than Gen 2 RDX's for sure.
good way of explaining it. I actually preferred the ride of the aspec over the advanced. The advance felt too soft for me in comfort mode. I like a stiffer ride and feel more connected to the car and road this way.
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good way of explaining it. I actually preferred the ride of the aspec over the advanced. The advance felt too soft for me in comfort mode. I like a stiffer ride and feel more connected to the car and road this way.
Thanks. Yes, the handling is great, but, I've now come across "raised ridges" on some roads, and just overall "rough places" and the ride gets really harsh. Don't like it at all. And I've got my TP down to 32 lbs. So, it's not that.
I test drove it, but, I know we didn't really get on the type of roads I have encountered here in my city. I'm frustrated with it. Love the A-Spec, but, can't figure out why so 'harsh" over that stuff. The Mich. Premiere LTX are
supposed to be a "softer riding tire." Talked to Tire Rack about it...and maybe swapping out, but, they told me the Premiere A/S 3+'s I wanted would not ride better.
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good way of explaining it. I actually preferred the ride of the aspec over the advanced. The advance felt too soft for me in comfort mode. I like a stiffer ride and feel more connected to the car and road this way.
Advance gets noticeably stiffer in Sport+ mode compared to Comfort mode, but I can't compare directly to A-spec.

A-spec doesn't have the capacity to electronically "self-adjust", but I believe it has multi-stage shock absorbers that automatically "soften up" in response to big hits, so you can keep your dentition intact. This is pretty common in modern cars.

There are different flavors of electrically active shock absorbers and associated control systems. Some automatically respond to varying road and driving dynamics conditions in real time, at the millisecond time scale. Some allow the driver to adjust the overall "sportiness" of the ride. And some do both. I believe the system in the 2019 RDX Advance does both.
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Advance gets noticeably stiffer in Sport+ mode compared to Comfort mode, but I can't compare directly to A-spec.
A-spec doesn't have the capacity to electronically "self-adjust", but I believe it has multi-stage shock absorbers that automatically "soften up" in response to big hits, so you can keep your dentition intact. This is pretty common in modern cars.
Yes, it does not have adaptive dumpers to self-adjust, but its possible that its just adjusted to be stiff all the time?
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Yes, it does not have adaptive dumpers to self-adjust, but its possible that its just adjusted to be stiff all the time?
I'm not sure we can confirm this one way or the other until the parts lists get published.

There are strictly mechanical systems that open additional valves in the shock absorber in response to high-amplitude impacts, so called amplitude reactive shock absorbers. These are much more common, and much less expensive than shocks with electrically controlled external valving. I remember from a posted interview with an Acura engineer that magnetorheological (MR) shocks are NOT used, as are used in some flavors of MDX. Those are quite expensive.

https://www.acura.com/performance/mo...active-dampers

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Ok, what about tech vs aspec suspension, is aspec suspension stiffer?
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Ok, what about tech vs aspec suspension, is aspec suspension stiffer?
my understanding is the suspension is the same across all trims but the exception is in advance you get active dampers that adjust depending on the driving mode. In the tech and aspec there is no active dampening - controlled by driver or otherwise. People will wonder then why it has comfort mode, the answer to that is that the drive modes adjust other parameters As wel such as throttle response and steering weight to give you a sportier feel with more ďgoĒ and tighter steering so you feel as though youíre in more control. The thing that really makes the aspec feel stiffer are the 20Ē wheels. They arenít as soft and donít ďrollĒ as much obviously as 19Ē wheels. I think the tech will feel more like the aspec than the advanced because of the active dampening, but the tech is also softer than the aspec because of the wheel package. To me, the advanced felt too spongy but thatís all a matter of preference. Iíve driven sporty sedans my whole life so I want that feel. Not the feel of driving boat. Drive each and make your own conclusions though. Itís a personal preference thing honestly.
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Lower profile tires will make some difference in both ride "stiffness" and sharpness of handling, but I do remember a posted comment from an Acura engineer that the suspension was "tuned" differently in A-spec relative to other trims. To me, that means different springs and/or shock absorbers. When parts lists are posted, we will know.

It's been a few decades since I stuffed Koni adjustable racing struts into a first-gen Toyota MR-2, so I may have forgotten what a stiff suspension feels like. But the 2019 RDX Advance corners pretty darn flat for a 4000 pound SUV, especially in "Sport+ mode". Comfort mode is a little bit soft and floaty, IMO, but on pothole infested roads that's not always a bad thing. And the "dynamic modes" do make a difference in that trim, both in suspension feel and the other parameters cited ( steering assist, throttle response ). Transmission shift points are altered as well. And "S" transmission mode takes that up another level.

RDX isn't an exotic car. But RDX can go places an exotic car dare not tread ( and with far more occupants and cargo ).
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Thanks. Yes, the handling is great, but, I've now come across "raised ridges" on some roads, and just overall "rough places" and the ride gets really harsh. Don't like it at all. And I've got my TP down to 32 lbs. So, it's not that.
I test drove it, but, I know we didn't really get on the type of roads I have encountered here in my city. I'm frustrated with it. Love the A-Spec, but, can't figure out why so 'harsh" over that stuff. The Mich. Premiere LTX are
supposed to be a "softer riding tire." Talked to Tire Rack about it...and maybe swapping out, but, they told me the Premiere A/S 3+'s I wanted would not ride better.
Thamks for sharing this. Backs up our experience. My husband says although the Comfort mode is soft, he feels our new 2019 Advance (in “Comfort” mode) is still stiffer than our 2002 TL rides.
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I cant speak for the A-Spec as I only test drove it for 10 minutes after I drove the Advance. The A-Spec was not as comfortable as the Advance in comfort mode. I wish Acura shared more information on the suspension so that we knew exactly what the differences are to make an informed decision. I have some information on the Active dampers and have that in other vehicles I own so I know how it works. It helped me to make my decision on the Advance over the A-Spec model. It is much nicer ride than my 2014 RDX was IMHO.
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