Not really. Acura/Honda isn’t going to be switching out the 10 speed for a 12 speed anytime soon. Also I said to wait another year or two, it would be 3 years since the transmission was first put into service but not 3 years for the RDX to be out. Something else you guys need to remember is that the other applications of this transmission are in fwd cars. This one obviously comes with AWD too and that changes things up as well.

At the end of the day, whoever wants to take the risk or feels satisfied that these systems have been tested enough then please feel free to work out the kinks for everyone else. And there will be kinks. There always is. Firmware updates don’t always fix electronic issues. One year is good enough for you, and that’s awesome, but I would prefer to wait longer personally. Nothing really “wrong” with either choice here. Perhaps the irony is that both my RDX and MDX were first year models (but I bought them after they were both out for a while).

MTs were more widely available when they were actually better than ATs. And when men were men.

Neither of which are necessarily true today, although I was the only man in my family who drove MTs. The other MT drivers, my wife and daughter, were (and remain, today) women.

sorry I meant I was thinking of getting a 19 TLX ASPEC, I confused everyone. Wife is looking at a 19 RDX Advance AWD as soon as they get a silver on espresso.

“Better” in my use was more fuel efficient and better able to control the car.

I had a 5 speed when ATs were 3 speed and free wheeled down slopes.

Todays ATs will drop gears on demand, shift faster, and are usually more efficient. You don’t get the fun of a well-timed downshift, for sure, but old time MTs were clearly better at everything, and now, technically, they are better at nothing; viscerally, in some conditions, they remain desirable.

to be fair, if I wanted a well timed Downshift, i would be over at the mustang or Camaro forums, not in a thread about suburban assault vehicles driven by soccer moms.

Oh, one more thing, MTs were measurably less expensive, but today, in those few cars you can get with them, they now cost as much as an AT.

ive got one reason that manual transmissions will be extinct in 5 years - self driving cars.

You keep ranting about problems your friend keeps having on a vehicle that he was hard on (drove 30k miles a year, twice the yearly avg the vehicle was engineered for) and didn’t maintain properly -The trans flush is supposed to be done every 25-35k miles, so if he only did it twice then he certainly skipped maintenance. The ZF transmission had known issues even before the TLX was released - I think it was a poor decision by Honda to use it, but it was developed and built by *ZF*, not Honda. So why is this 10 speed transmission a “turn off” to you? Because Honda had issues with a transmission they developed 20 years ago? Has Honda had widespread transmission issues in all of their vehicles since? No. Have you driven a vehicle with the new 10-speed transmission? I have, and I was quite impressed with it.

There are inherent risks when buying an early production 1st year model. Not everyone has reliability as their absolute #1 priority, some want the latest and greatest. That’s the trade off. You should try buying a 1st year BMW, driving 30k+ miles a year, not maintaining it properly and see what happens to it in 4 years. Lol

And btw trans flushes should not cost $350, even at a dealer 😂

Thenfiest scheduled “tuneup” is 100,000 Miles. For
me that’s like 4 years (sales) but for most that’s a decade.

im in sales. In 8 years I put 205000 miles on my tsx. Still runs like a champ. Has never left me sitting. Haven’t done anything to it other than oil changes and fluids, filters, tires etc. So no major service like valve cleaning, trans flushing, plugs, etc. whatever it was engineered for, i hope they did the same with the rdx

Use quality gas, use quality fluids and change them timely, replace with quality parts, remember that cars don’t heal themselves and fix problems timely. The car will be drivable long after you tire of driving it.

Um, absolutely, vehicles and their parts are engineered to be used a certain number of miles within a certain time period. And absolutely driving 30k miles a year (and possibly 40k a year, depending on when he bought it) certainly puts more stress on a vehicle than 15k miles a year. But that wasn’t really the focus of my argument. My point is this guy is knocking Honda’s new 10-speed because of Honda’s issues with a 5-speed developed 20 years ago and a friend’s TLX with a ZF designed & built 9-speed transmission went bad, when it sounds like his friend didn’t even maintain it properly.

I don’t want to tell you what it cost to replace the tranny fluid in my BMW, which was originally touted as ‘lifetime’, but isn’t. However, the Honda 10 speed is a Honda transmission, and I cannot believe they will sell that to Honda owners and require an outrageous price to change the fluid. That will kill Honda 10 speeds.