Thinking of buying Samsung DLP HDTV (HL-P5063W)
02-08-2005, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
I think I am going to very seriously look at the Mitsu unit. I am glad I asked you guys. Thank you Silver sir!
Well since the Mitsubishi (unlike the Samsung) unit has the HD2+ chip and built in HDTV tuner and CableCard I would certainly advise you to give it serious consideration. But I don't think you can go wrong with either
02-08-2005, 11:08 PM
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Silver how the hell did BestBuy sell this unit for $2699 when I see on CENT it sells for min. 2599 + shipping ? Sounds too good to be true. Is that a special discount you got dude?
02-08-2005, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver™
Well since the Mitsubishi (unlike the Samsung) unit has the HD2+ chip and built in HDTV tuner and CableCard I would certainly advise you to give it serious consideration. But I don't think you can go wrong with either
I am with DishNetwork currently. I am not intending to buy HD content right away cos there aint much out there as it is. So I would see it as an advanatage if the TV I bought were able to get HD signals via an off air antenna. The problem is, I wonder if I can do it with a small antenna (ones that sit on the TV) or do I need a huge antenna in the attick which I will never do myslef. I am 35 miles from downtown chicago where the broadcasting antennas sit I am guessing. So this nice feauter is basically lost.
Since I dont have cable, I guess the CableCard feature is also moot in this case. Right?
Finally, I am under the impression that I will still need a special box from DishNetwork if I wanted HD signal even if this TV has that box integrated.
So bottom line, it looks like all these nice features this TV has are...unusable in my case.
02-08-2005, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
Silver how the hell did BestBuy sell this unit for $2699 when I see on CENT it sells for min. 2599 + shipping ? Sounds too good to be true. Is that a special discount you got dude?
It was pre-Super Bowl. So there were a few sales going on. But at that time the online price was not the same as the instore price. It was $2849 online and $2699 instore, so you may have to go in store to get a better price than what you are seeing online tonight. But if you buy it instore for $2999 and use the 10% off coupon they just sent out it should be the same as what I got it for.
Plus you can usually get them to be a little flexible (especially if you get the warranty) on the unit, tell them you saw it last week for $2699 but couldn't make it in and see what they can do for you.
02-08-2005, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
Glad you mentioned these featuers as I read the CNET review from the link you provided.
I am with DishNetwork currently. I am not intending to buy HD content right away cos there aint much out there as it is. So I would see it as an advanatage if the TV I bought were able to get HD signals via an off air antenna. The problem is, I wonder if I can do it with a small antenna (ones that sit on the TV) or do I need a huge antenna in the attick which I will never do myslef. I am 35 miles from downtown chicago where the broadcasting antennas sit I am guessing. So this nice feauter is basically lost.
Since I dont have cable, I guess the CableCard feature is also moot in this case. Right?
Finally, I am under the impression that I will still need a special box from DishNetwork if I wanted HD signal even if this TV has that box integrated.
So bottom line, it looks like all these nice features this TV has are...unusable in my case.
I am with DishNetwork currently. I am not intending to buy HD content right away cos there aint much out there as it is. So I would see it as an advanatage if the TV I bought were able to get HD signals via an off air antenna. The problem is, I wonder if I can do it with a small antenna (ones that sit on the TV) or do I need a huge antenna in the attick which I will never do myslef. I am 35 miles from downtown chicago where the broadcasting antennas sit I am guessing. So this nice feauter is basically lost.
Since I dont have cable, I guess the CableCard feature is also moot in this case. Right?
Finally, I am under the impression that I will still need a special box from DishNetwork if I wanted HD signal even if this TV has that box integrated.
So bottom line, it looks like all these nice features this TV has are...unusable in my case.
If you ever get rid of your satellite the CableCard would be a nice feature to have, but you are correct it does nothing if you have Dish Network today.
The HDTV tuner is a plus though because I believe Dish Network does not have local HDTV. I may be wrong, but last I heard is that they only offer CBS in HDTV. So you would have to get the antenna for ABC, NBC, and Fox. I get those channels from my cable provider, so I don't know specifics for the antennas, but I think you can get a good one for about $50.
But you should definitely notice the difference of the HD2+ chip
02-08-2005, 11:41 PM
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CableCard and built-in HD tuner are USELESS features.
ESPECIALLY the built-in tuner.
In most cases, you will want to use an external tuner with a DVR anyway. I don't know many people that use or have used a BUILT IN tuner.
There is no need...
ESPECIALLY the built-in tuner.
In most cases, you will want to use an external tuner with a DVR anyway. I don't know many people that use or have used a BUILT IN tuner.
There is no need...
02-08-2005, 11:42 PM
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$3k for a tv? I hope you guys watch ALOT of TV.......
I am considering cancelling my cable, $60/month is getting old, especially since I mostly watch movies from Netflix.
Oh, and I'm rocking an 800lb 36" RCA tube thing.
Yeah its bulky, but with my powered sub and surround sound, and a decent DVD player it suits me well.
I am considering cancelling my cable, $60/month is getting old, especially since I mostly watch movies from Netflix.
Oh, and I'm rocking an 800lb 36" RCA tube thing.
Yeah its bulky, but with my powered sub and surround sound, and a decent DVD player it suits me well.
02-08-2005, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by soopa
In most cases, you will want to use an external tuner with a DVR anyway. I don't know many people that use or have used a BUILT IN tuner.
There is no need...
There is no need...
Why is that? Would the Dish Network tuner accept an input from an antenna for local HDTV?
02-09-2005, 06:07 AM
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I just watched the Super Bowl on my friends Samsung P5685W and it was perfect. It is the TV I would buy if I hads the space for it.
I am settling for a Sharp Aquos 32 LCD
I am settling for a Sharp Aquos 32 LCD
02-09-2005, 10:16 AM
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check out the sony 50" lcd, its a little less then the samsung and the picture is better. however, neither are true 1080i, you might want to wait a few months as the new lcos tech is coming out.
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Originally Posted by soopa
THIS is a thing of beauty
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Originally Posted by jrod178
check out the sony 50" lcd, its a little less then the samsung and the picture is better. however, neither are true 1080i, you might want to wait a few months as the new lcos tech is coming out.
The HDx chip from TI will have the 1080p, but I have yet to see the merit of it for the $$$.
If you can watch DLP versus LCD for rear projection, I recommend DLP. Better light transmission, color saturation, and contrast.
D-ILA is about half way inbetween.
02-09-2005, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Lung Fu Mo Shi
Correct, all images are scaled to 720p (or 738p in the Sony depending on what model you have).
The HDx chip from TI will have the 1080p, but I have yet to see the merit of it for the $$$.
If you can watch DLP versus LCD for rear projection, I recommend DLP. Better light transmission, color saturation, and contrast.
D-ILA is about half way inbetween.
The HDx chip from TI will have the 1080p, but I have yet to see the merit of it for the $$$.
If you can watch DLP versus LCD for rear projection, I recommend DLP. Better light transmission, color saturation, and contrast.
D-ILA is about half way inbetween.
02-09-2005, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by joeshmoe
Has anyone heard any good/bad things about JVC's HD-ILA TV's? Someone at work just got one and he loves it.
I initially wanted Lcos and since that is really the only reasonable TV on the market with it I seriously considered it. But perhaps because it was a first gen model from JVC (and I have never been a real fan of JVC) I was not impressed by it compared to the Mitsubishi and Samsung DLP units.
02-09-2005, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by jrod178
I think it depends on the set, I have seen some LCD's that blow away the Samsungs. Either way, I would wait another 3-4 months as the prices are going to drop a decent amount as the new Lcos tech comes out among other things. I have been on the verge of pulling the trigger, but I want a true 1080i set that isnt 15k.
No set will bother with 1080i. It will be 1080p.
LCDs are inherently less contrast than DLPs. Again it all depends on how the sets are tuned. I've seen top of the line TVs look like ass in the store because someone jacked around with the picture settings. Plus the lighting in stores is less than good.
02-09-2005, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by n3ok318
get the samsung one, mitsu is ugly. I mean, let's say quality is better. STILL you FELL good when your TV looks good. minor quality difference wont make you feel that much good watching ugly tv
What makes this...
better than this?
I actually like the Mitsubishi unit more.
02-09-2005, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Lung Fu Mo Shi
Intel has also pulled out of the game. Manufacturing might is still in question. So far the predicted cost structure isn't there.
Yea, that is what I had heard and that concerned me about the future of Lcos.
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As mentioned above, Samsung makes great DLP’s.
I’m not a big fan of Mitsubishi. They had lots of problems with their RPTV’s that I don’t know if they fixed yet.
Shawn S… Who’s realizing that his 4YR old 50” Toshiba HDTV is quickly getting outdated
I’m not a big fan of Mitsubishi. They had lots of problems with their RPTV’s that I don’t know if they fixed yet.
Shawn S… Who’s realizing that his 4YR old 50” Toshiba HDTV is quickly getting outdated
02-10-2005, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Beelzebub
I just watched the Super Bowl on my friends Samsung P5685W and it was perfect. It is the TV I would buy if I hads the space for it.
I am settling for a Sharp Aquos 32 LCD
I am settling for a Sharp Aquos 32 LCD
02-10-2005, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Scrib
gav, Costco has that TV for $2299.99 by me.
What do you mean "by you"? And which TV are you referring to? The only one on Costco's web site is old Samsung DLP TV, the HLN line which I am not interested.
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Originally Posted by jrod178
check out the sony 50" lcd, its a little less then the samsung and the picture is better. however, neither are true 1080i, you might want to wait a few months as the new lcos tech is coming out.
What's lcos tech?
02-10-2005, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Lung Fu Mo Shi
There is a bit of mistake in one of the posts here. That is NOT just a stand. Nearly all of the electronics are housed in that vertical stand. Overall it created a thinner device, and one where the weight rests in the bottom versus up top.
02-10-2005, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Lung Fu Mo Shi
Correct, all images are scaled to 720p (or 738p in the Sony depending on what model you have).
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Originally Posted by Lung Fu Mo Shi
Correct, all images are scaled to 720p (or 738p in the Sony depending on what model you have).
If you can watch DLP versus LCD for rear projection, I recommend DLP. Better light transmission, color saturation, and contrast.
If you can watch DLP versus LCD for rear projection, I recommend DLP. Better light transmission, color saturation, and contrast.
02-10-2005, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
I thought that was a good thing. 720p is better than 1080i, no?
No because 1080i can show you more native lines from HD source.
1080p should be coming soon.
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Originally Posted by Lung Fu Mo Shi
The HDx chip from TI will have the 1080p, but I have yet to see the merit of it for the $$$.
D-ILA is about half way inbetween.
02-10-2005, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by zamo
Yes because the frames are rendered progressively.
No because 1080i can show you more native lines from HD source.
No because 1080i can show you more native lines from HD source.
02-10-2005, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by red99cl2.3
i just got that tv for 1500 at best buy!!! hell of a deal one of the perks of wroking there.
02-10-2005, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
What do you mean "by you"? And which TV are you referring to? The only one on Costco's web site is old Samsung DLP TV, the HLN line which I am not interested.
Costco carries a lot of items in store that are not on their website. Call your local Costco and see if they carry it. The one local to me does...
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Originally Posted by zamo
the frames render much better in 720p yes.