#1 STUNNA

yeah I was wondering the same. I can't find it, this is a beta so they may add this later, I hope. That's the only thing I don't like about it.

It just found another instance of the same exploit but in a different temp file. I'm gonna do a full scan and see what else it finds.

JediMindTricks

thanks.

Moog-Type-S

^^ I thought I was out of my mind for not finding a "log"....but I guess it's not there.

You would think that would be a very simple "must have" feature

#1 STUNNA

You have to check the box in advanced setting to enable removable disk scanning

Belzebutt

I'm installing this to test, has anyone seen a comprehensive review yet, where they compare against AVG and others to see which one found/removed more threats?

Is the x64 installer separate or can you use the same one?

#1 STUNNA

x64 is separate. It uses the same detection engine and definitions as Live one care and forefront so in regards to that it should be the same. So I think just the UI and some features are "beta" but the main part not so much.

#1 STUNNA

Again here's the AV comparatives report and you'll see MS has the lowest amount of false positives than the others and the 2nd best proactive test results.

But here's the main jist of if it:








http://av-comparatives.org/images/st...c_report22.pdf

sho_nuff1997

iTrader: (2)

Why is this not on technet? I know. You can only get the not free software for free on technet.

alex2364

And TechNet is aimed at business customers. This is a consumer product.

#1 STUNNA

Security Essentials is now Final and available now for download. This is a highly recommended AV over AVG or avast!. What do you guys think that've been running it for a while? I've been very happy with it. It just runs discretely in the background and doesn't bother unless it finds something. It's extremely lightweight, I can't notice any performance degradation after installing this AV. Check it out!

http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/

Anachostic

Wow, that's going to hurt a lot of AV companies. The 3rd party AV suites are going to have to move more towards businesses, since it looks like this is geared to the home user and won't offer a lot of control for a domain or other centralized network.

Moog-Type-S

I've been running it for quite some time now....it's brilliant!

Props to MS

Moog-Type-S

Question: Do beta users need to download the final version...or will it come via "update"?

EDIT: It says on the front page for beta users to download final version.

#1 STUNNA

Well first you should update to build 1.0.1500. Which you should've gotten a notification to do a few weeks ago. If you've done that then you can just go to the site and down load it again and it's a quick update. I tried to run the "check for upgrade" program manually from the AV program itself but it said I was still using the most current version so I guess it's not live on the update server yet. So I just downloaded from the link and did it myself.

Moog-Type-S

Final version still does not have a scan history: As in when you did your last scans.

AMGala

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Any comments on MS AV vs. NOD?

Moog-Type-S

Go here:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...2&postcount=47

JediMindTricks

thanks.

i was just gonna ask that since i reformmated my computer the other night and need to download an AV software.

AMGala

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I did see that but I was asking more for AZ user's opinions. Things like no scan history, GUI opinion, etc. aren't really shown in that test.

Billiam

Can scans be invoked via command line? If so, then just do your scans as a Windows scheduled task and you'll have your history.

AMGala

iTrader: (4)

Here is a more recent test by that same company for On-demand protection and on-demand scan speed. MS doesn't fair as well in this test. In this report, they test MS Live Care which I believe is the business version of MSE.

http://av-comparatives.org/images/st...c_report23.pdf

Anachostic

Surely it puts something in the event log, Shirley.

Moog-Type-S

Only things that were "found"...but not the dates of your previous scans.

...and don't call me Shirley.

alex2364

How is this better than Avast?

#1 STUNNA

For one it doesn't fucking talk to you! Literally! No annoying notifications every time the "virus database has been updated" or when it's doing a system scan. The only time it pops up anything is if it finds something, other than that it's completely silent. It doesn't expire, there's no 1 year license that you have to renew every year, there's no nagging ads trying to get you to upgrade to the pay version. there is no pay version. It uses less resources and has virtually no noticeable impact on system performance.

#1 STUNNA

Ars Technica has a good article about it. It pretty much says everything I've said, it rocks!

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/new...-impresses.ars

6MTUA5

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Installing on my notebook now and will get it on my desktop when I get home later

Gfaze

I've been running it for several months and it's been working great! It's caught several trojans trying to sneak in while browsing random sites and it doesn't eat up resources. Fast scans, runs very light and I install it in any machine I work on now.

Billiam

I'm not seeing anything that indicates whether this MSE has any email scanning functionality. I'm assuming it does not.

#1 STUNNA

no it doesn't. Doesn't most consumer oriented email services offering email scanning? Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo! do. I guess that would be important to small businesses that run their own exchange server, though myself in 10 years I've never received a virus via any of my email addresses so it's not important to me.

Billiam

Now that I think about it though, I wonder if MSE would protect against Javascript and ActiveX malware in HTML email messages. Seems plausible as long as you're using a Microsoft app for a mail client. Don't Outlook and Live Mail essentially use the IE rendering engine at their core?

I also wonder what the official party line going to be with Windows Defender. I can't see how they could pull the plug on that and tell everyone to go get MSE since you can run Defender as an anti-malware app independent of any virus protection that's installed.

#1 STUNNA

The update is live on the upgrade server. so if you're using the beta and haven't upgraded yet you can click the down arrow next to help and choose "upgrade Security Essentials"

#1 STUNNA

MSE replaces defender. I think that Norton and Mcafee can also replace defender as well if installed. I don't think defender will go anywhere unless someone complains to the EU that it's anti-competitive then I'm sure they'll get rid of it in a heartbeat. It would be nice if MSE was included in the OS like defender but the AV companies would go ape shit if that happened.

Billiam

If they truly intend MSE to replace defender then they're absolutely setting themselves up to be sued in one capacity or another. Defender can exist an be run just fine alongside most any other antivirus application. MSE, as they state, should not be run alongside anything else and it includes antivirus protection. It's also free. Seems like a no-brainer for anti-competitive behavior to me.

#1 STUNNA

no. it replaces defender in Vista and 7 cause MSE is a superset of defender and has all of it's features. It won't come included in 7 though. I wish it would but they can't. Why is it ok to include defender but not ok to include MSE? Snow Leopard comes with an included malware scanner why not windows? windows needs it more than OS X does

WILLDOGS

If anyone want to check that their Virus Scanner is working like it should, here is a link where you can get SAFE fake virus files to test. I use them all the time.

http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

Some info on the file: http://www.microsoft.com/security/po...tid=2147519003

I just tested MSE and it caught it no problem.

#1 STUNNA

yeah that's pretty standard. I think all AVs are made to pass that test

JediMindTricks

downloaded it last night, and as stunna said, i'm surprised by how quietly it runs.

the quick scans are actually quick, and they don't take up too much memory.

thanks again.

curls

I d/l'd it last night on the Vista laptop and it installed no problem. Went to install it on my XP desktop and it passed the Genuine validation, but I had forgot to uninstall AVG, so I cancelled out of the MSE install, uninstalled AVG, and then upon trying to install MSE, this time it DIDN'T pass the Windows Genuine Validation. ARGH. My copy of XP is actually legit, too! I can't see why it'd have passed the first time, and not any subsequent time. Pisses me off.

But the copy on the Vista machine seems good and I'll just run AVG on the XP machine again. I kinda would like to run MSE on the desktop too but I guess that isn't in the cards yet.

Will Y.

Is MSE not supposed to be installed with other antimalware programs, or not run simultaneously?

I downloaded, installed and used MSE on my Vista laptop last night with no issues, but the laptop also has Kaspersky Antivirus, Ad Aware and Spybot S&D on it. I generally manually run each program separately, although Kaspersky and Spybot are also real-time.