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Old 11-10-2004, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
I read somewhere that 1920x1200 was "true" HD resolution...

Discuss.

Anything over 720x480 is considered to be HD resolution for NTSC standards.

I was speaking on aspect ratios specifically. You could make a SD 16:9 picture. and or a HD 4:3 picture.

I'd much rather game 16:9 then 4:3 anyday...
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so ebay has the best deals on these monitors? Is there any way to get an educational discount from dell if you are a current college student?
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well looks like i know my christmas present to myself
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id definately want to buy this monitor, but what would I do with an extra 19" CRT?
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Originally Posted by rise
id definately want to buy this monitor, but what would I do with an extra 19" CRT?
I have extra 19" and 21" CRT's sitting at home... the 21" is kinda shot (used it for some 5 years) so I'll probably throw that out but the 19" is still quite new, I use it for multiplayer gaming... which doesn't happen too often unfortunately.

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more info than you will ever need
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well looks like i know my christmas present to myself
cool... after you get it, you can give us a review and measure its PPI and all that good jazz... kthx
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Originally Posted by srika
cool... after you get it, you can give us a review and measure its PPI and all that good jazz... kthx
ha

just wait a few days for tomshardware to review it

actually, im still thinking about the 2001fp just for its native resolution
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ha

just wait a few days for tomshardware to review it

actually, im still thinking about the 2001fp just for its native resolution
but its funner when you do it...

j/k

I hear you on the 2001fp... I had one for a week, returned it because it does some funky stuff in between the pixels.. there is like this black area... you don't get flat color on that monitor like you do with the 2000FP... you do get 16ms response time, but to me color is more important than response time...
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Originally Posted by srika
but its funner when you do it...

j/k

I hear you on the 2001fp... I had one for a week, returned it because it does some funky stuff in between the pixels.. there is like this black area... you don't get flat color on that monitor like you do with the 2000FP... you do get 16ms response time, but to me color is more important than response time...

what do you mean about the colors?
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I like my ViewSonic 21" CRT...the way it takes up my entire desk and has the same curb weight as my Maxima.
hahaha
I have a 21" CRT and it's the size of a fucking TV

I can't believe the desk it is on is holding it.

btw that went in my AIM profile, that's fucking funny.
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Originally Posted by ViperrepiV
what do you mean about the colors?
there is more space in between the pixels - black space... so it's like you can see each and every pixel, and there is black around each one, causing there to look like there's black lines running along the width of the screen. I noticed this the most in the blue area of the standard XP taskbar - did not notice it in pictures and things like that unless there was flat color. The XP taskbar is a flat blue color. It's kinda hard to describe here. You might have no idea what I'm talking about, maybe I had a bad monitor. I don't know, that's the only one I'd seen and experienced. But whatever it was, it bothered me enough to return it and get another 2000FP...
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get this monitor for $599!!!!!

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/prod...=04&l=en&s=bsd

$200 off, with coupon code SGS8?T0JFVF1CR
Dell 2005FPW 20in widescreen Digital LCD Flat Panel 600:1 contrast ratio, 12ms response, DVI, Svideo, Composite Video $599
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CHEAP!!!
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Someone get that for my birthday/xmas!!
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Someone get that for my birthday/xmas!!
synth19!! now you know what to get Mr. Crazy for Xmas!!!!
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^ ha.. yeah right..
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Response Time (typical): 12ms grey-to-grey, 16ms black-to-white


Cool display, but I agree some games might not support the native res. on it. But from what I have read the screen with scale 1600x1200 down to it's native res.


I know a lot of games support custom resoutions though.
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Originally Posted by srika
not a bad deal... the resolution is almost perfect for HD and it has a 12ms response time, great for gaming... if I didn't have 2 2000FP's already I would buy this in a heartbeat... considering swapping one of those out for this - the only thing stopping me is that this has a lower screen area (compared to 1600x1200 on the 2000FP).... hmm... I probably won't do it... but this is great for anyone that has been waiting to get an LCD....

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/P...ctlisting.aspx

DELL
UltraSharp 2005FPW 20.1-inch Flat Panel LCD Monitor
with Height Adjustable Stand

$679.15



Viewable Size: 20.1"
Display Type: Flat Panel Display / Active Matrix TFT - Desktop
Depth: 9"
Features: Automatic Setup Adjustment, Kensington Lock Slot, 100 mm VESA Mounting, Height Adjustable Stand Included
Height: Compressed: 15.3", Extended: 22.4"
Weight: 17.64 lbs
Width: 18.6"
Image Max H-View Angle: ±88°
Image Max V-View Angle: ±88°
Color Support: 16.7 Million
Connectivity Technology: Cable
Device Type: Flat Panel LCD Monitor with Height Adjustable Stand
Dimensions (WxDxH) / Weight: 18.6" x 9" x 15.3" to 22.4" / 17.64 lbs
Enclosure Color: Midnight Gray
Image Aspect Ratio: 16:10
Image Brightness: 300 cd/m²
Image Contrast Ratio: 600:1
Max Resolution: 1680x1050 Pixels
Max Sync Rate (V x H): 75 Hz x 83 kHz
Port(s) Total ( Free ) / Connector Type: VGA / DVI-D / S-video / Composite / 4 x USB 2.0
Power Consumption Operational: 75 W (maximum), 55 W (typical)
Diagonal Size / Viewable Size: 20 / 20.1"
Compatibility: PC


I just ordered one
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my monitor is acting really funny.. I may have to get a new one... considering this...
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did the $200 off code work?

Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
I just ordered one
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but this is for a small business account right?


Originally Posted by srika
get this monitor for $599!!!!!

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/prod...=04&l=en&s=bsd

$200 off, with coupon code SGS8?T0JFVF1CR
Dell 2005FPW 20in widescreen Digital LCD Flat Panel 600:1 contrast ratio, 12ms response, DVI, Svideo, Composite Video $599
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oI vey !

tHAT'S SWEET


Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
I just ordered one
Old 12-16-2004, 07:49 PM
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wtf.. my price is like $719 +tax How are you guys getting this deal for $679.15 ?
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I think I may look at ebay for this....
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ebay is cheaper.

But i bought it off dell home for $599. I got a 25% coupon off ebay for $1.99
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you GO Jesal!
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Does it matter what video card you have for a widescreen monitor?
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for the price you can get 2 19inch lcd's
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Question: Comparing Standard 21 Inch Standard Monitor with these Flat Panels, What is the Visual Quality Comparison? Better, Worse, Same ?
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What about this: http://www.viewsonic.com/products/de...series/vp201b/

Check the SPECS out on that! Very Bright 400nit 12ms !
Old 12-29-2004, 03:39 PM
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^ Just ordered one for myself too. Gonna trade with someone who wants a 2000FP

Ships on or before 1/5/05 (read: ships 1/10/05)

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$609.00 shipped.
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One of the advantages of an LCD is that is can display ANY resolution, higher or lower than it's native. So really you can run whatever the heck resolution you want. The quality of the LCD and it's processing determins whether this looks good or not. My sisters laptop looks like poo if you stray too far from it's native, but my 19" hardly changes at all. With an A or B screen and a good Genisis chip, you shouldn't have any problems.
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Originally Posted by proaudio22
One of the advantages of an LCD is that is can display ANY resolution, higher or lower than it's native. So really you can run whatever the heck resolution you want. The quality of the LCD and it's processing determins whether this looks good or not. My sisters laptop looks like poo if you stray too far from it's native, but my 19" hardly changes at all. With an A or B screen and a good Genisis chip, you shouldn't have any problems.
An LCD should ONLY be run at its native resolution. At any other resolution, you are compromising quality. Content on an LCD looks best at its native resolution.

Also I don't think you can display "any resolution" you want on an LCD... I have a Radeon 9800 that will do up to 2048x1536 - but only goes as high as 1600x1200 (native on the LCD) in display properties...

and oh yeah run DVI and ClearType on that LCD whenever possible.
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Originally Posted by proaudio22
One of the advantages of an LCD is that is can display ANY resolution, higher or lower than it's native. So really you can run whatever the heck resolution you want. The quality of the LCD and it's processing determins whether this looks good or not. My sisters laptop looks like poo if you stray too far from it's native, but my 19" hardly changes at all. With an A or B screen and a good Genisis chip, you shouldn't have any problems.
i think your mixing up lcd's and crt's. lcd's should only be run at their native resolution (as stated above), while crt's can scale really well
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The LCD panel itself has a set resolution, but you should be able to feed the processing part of the screen anything you want. Whether or not it looks good depends on the quality of the chip. This is done all the time with projectors, as it only deals with the max resolution of the signal. We use $$$ scalers to bump all the images to the same resolution so they can be switched, but the built in processing in most of the projectors is just as good. The processing in the Samsung LCD TVs we've been playing with is also quite good. Computer monitor manufacturers simply want to reduce costs on the units and it's cheaper to have the customer use the native resolution and cheap out on the processing.

CRTs don't "scale" as they don't have any set resolution, only a max capable size based on the dot pitch. The resolution can be anything as it's simply made up by the dots of the scanning beam.

EDIT: My LCD's native resolution is 1280x1024, and it looks like shit. 1152x864 just happens to be the magic number the screen likes.
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LCDs are much better on the eyes! CRTs dry them and so you'll have to hydrate yourself.
The cost alone of seeing an optometrist just after two visits could motivate you to get an LCD!
Especially those with hard contact lenses.

And better yet, very maintenance free. No more dust attracting static from CRTs!!
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^ Much easier on the eyes...no more eye strain headaches after I went LCD.
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Originally Posted by Gilgamesh
^ Much easier on the eyes...no more eye strain headaches after I went LCD.
I just went with this one:

http://www.viewsonic.com/products/de...series/vp912b/

Should be in next week!
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