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TeknoKing Aug 30, 2013 02:43 PM

^ when it comes to high end video card, I'd only do Nvidia and nothing else, but for a workhorse, ATI does the job.

I'm waiting for price to drop so can I put GTX680 into SLI

svtmike Aug 30, 2013 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by stogie1020 (Post 14648328)
I bought two GT640s for two different machines and had the same trouble with both. One seems to have mostly settled down, but the other one is killing me...


ATI here I come.

Good luck.

I'd uninstall all vestiges of the NVidia drivers and go to standard VGA drivers before switching cards. Then install the bone stock Radeon drivers from AMD's website instead of using the drivers packaged with the card.

That's what I do anyway, and I've had good results.

stogie1020 Aug 30, 2013 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by TeknoKing (Post 14648329)
^ when it comes to high end video card, I'd only do Nvidia and nothing else, but for a workhorse, ATI does the job.

I'm waiting for price to drop so can I put GTX680 into SLI

My current problem (an apparently that of many others) is the poor drivers from NVidia.

When I use flash or java in any capacity the driver (any version I try) crashes. Sometimes it recovers, sometimes it blue screens, sometimes it just simply restarts.

AZuser Aug 30, 2013 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by Costco (Post 14645515)
My question is where do you guys find your cards and components?

Mostly Newegg, Microcenter, and Fry's. Sometimes amazon, tigerdirect, ncix, and rakuten

AZuser Aug 30, 2013 05:10 PM

I've had both ATi and NVidia cards over the years. Never had any problems with my NVidia cards or drivers. :shrug:

stogie1020 Aug 30, 2013 05:21 PM

Well, I would say its a fluke but I bought TWO for two different machines and had the same issues on both....

Currently looking to replace the one in this machine:

• LIAN LI PC-7B plus II Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
• ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
• EVGA 02G-P4-2643-KR GeForce GT 640 2GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
• Rosewill PCIe 1394b Card 3 Ports Model RC-506E
• CORSAIR HX Series HX850 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply New 4th Gen CPU Certified Haswell Ready
• Intel Core i7-3770 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770
• SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC256B/WW 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
• CORSAIR Vengeance 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model CMZ32GX3M4X1600C10
• 2x Seagate SV35 Series ST1000VX000 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Enterprise Internal Hard Drives (RAID0)
• Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit
StarTech ECESATA22 2 Port ExpressCard eSATA Controller Adapter Card

Costco Sep 3, 2013 03:08 PM

Gonna get a Corsair SSD and RAM among other things...

Decided on an i5 4670k since an i7 doesn't offer me a real advantage for the rig's primary purpose (gaming). I saw ez12a recommended the H220, but it's been pulled off the shelves. I will stick with an H100i, again because of the Corsair connection, primarily because of the sealed system. I'm a bit paranoid about the thing leaking though...

CocheseUGA Sep 7, 2013 10:58 PM

Nice to see the thread still going strong. Will have to post what I eventually did one day. It's been ages.

CocheseUGA Sep 9, 2013 07:32 AM

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8219/8...1a9dd66f_c.jpg

This is my budget build from last year.
  • i5 2500K
  • ASRock Z77 Extreme4
  • 16GB DDR3 1333
  • HD 6570
  • Hyper 212

I had to replace the motherboard last week due to a lightning strike through the network. Added a 128GB 840 Pro SSD the week before, and I have dual 20" Acer LCDs that I do my work on. The case is a CM690 II Advanced.

97BlackAckCL Sep 9, 2013 09:36 AM

Nice cochese, looks a lot like my build

CocheseUGA Sep 9, 2013 09:48 AM

I need to pull the 212 and redo the paste. I was doing around 50º before under full load and now I'm at 66º with the new board. Perhaps the fans are on backward.

TeknoKing Sep 10, 2013 01:19 PM

My 2012 built - still rocking it with great results

http://s23.postimg.org/pbdo4htrf/mysetup.jpg

i7-3820 OCed
Gigabyte X79-UD5
32GB Corsair Vengeance
GTX680 EVGA OCed

ez12a Oct 30, 2013 12:44 PM

not really a computer but a quick mock up of my parents' new networking rack that i'm building for them.
https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/...59920604_n.jpg

always wanted to try my hand at cable porn.

justnspace Oct 30, 2013 12:48 PM

a friend gave me a computer with an I7 in it.
only thing, it blue screens...

dont have extra hardware to troubleshoot, and ive already bought memory for it...
still blue screens.
not sure if its the motherboard or processor....

maharajamd Oct 30, 2013 12:54 PM

Do I even want to know why your parents need a rack such as that? Lol

97BlackAckCL Oct 30, 2013 01:03 PM

I used to have a full server cabinet in my basement :shrug:

CocheseUGA Oct 30, 2013 01:11 PM

A lot of it is overkill for the typical home user.

ez12a Oct 30, 2013 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by maharajamd (Post 14731020)
Do I even want to know why your parents need a rack such as that? Lol

lol their home remodel is almost done, 10 drops with cat 6 in the whole house, and a WAP along with the gear in the closet. The closet (more like cubby) is so small this rack fits perfectly inside at 7" tall :thumbsup:

before the remodel my bedroom was the "networking closet" and had cables that i hand crimped everywhere. Looked gross.

i love the way cables can be organized between patch panels and switches. :tongue:


Originally Posted by CocheseUGA (Post 14731052)
A lot of it is overkill for the typical home user.

I work in IT, so i'm not too typical :tomato:

maharajamd Oct 30, 2013 01:16 PM

Why? I'm with you, I do a lot too. If you're folding or mining or occasionally throw a LAN party that works.

But how many machines do you really have going in the house at one time that require 16 ports yet alone a rack unit... Lol

Especially if "parents" and said parents couldn't do the rack themselves, I can't imagine they are utilizing it... I'm sure I'm wrong though.

Edit: A complete home network nuked in. That I'll believe. Ahh the 21st century. :)

ez12a Oct 30, 2013 01:23 PM

i figure the popularity of home servers is increasing. Backups to a NAS or similar device will definitely take advantage of the speeds. As SSDs or fast storage continue to proliferate, backups will take only a short amount of time, also transferring media back and forth between computers will be WAY faster than something based off of 100BaseT. Transferring a 4k video around the newtork? no problem now.

All our desktop computers have gigabit already (late model intel Macs), a few other custom PCs. I already had the thing "converted" to gigabit with a cheapy 5 port netgear. This will make it part of the house remodel in 2013. In a modern house with ethernet drops, it only makes sense to use a patch panel. It makes even more sense to put it in a rack for organizational purposes.

It's not the final product of course, since only 10 drops are actually being used. The rest will be for future expansion.

plus it's my gift to them. :tongue:

Originally Posted by justnspace (Post 14731008)
a friend gave me a computer with an I7 in it.
only thing, it blue screens...

dont have extra hardware to troubleshoot, and ive already bought memory for it...
still blue screens.
not sure if its the motherboard or processor....

Reset the BIOS/CMOS. did you already try reinstalling Windows? I'd just blow the thing away for good measure since nothing you have is on it yet. Disconnect any peripherals that you dont need if any (card readers, PCI sound cards, etc.)

97BlackAckCL Oct 30, 2013 01:30 PM

So, did you punch down jacks to the walls then?

maharajamd Oct 30, 2013 01:30 PM

^I agree with you. If it's built into the house you might as well go all the way and do a professional setup.

ez12a Oct 30, 2013 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL (Post 14731086)
So, did you punch down jacks to the walls then?

yup, bought all the keystone jacks and wall plates with a punch down tool.

I've done this prior to the remodel where my dad went into the crawlspace and fished wires up for me to punch down. worked really well and looked pro. The contractors for the remodel already ran all the cat6 and installed the electrical boxes to each room. it's pretty easy from here on out. Already bought a tone finder/probe.

It could look like this if I didnt go through any of the effort:
http://randombio.com/wire-closet.jpg

i dunno, just looks amateur/terrible to me in what is essentially a new house.

svtmike Oct 30, 2013 02:05 PM

I just put a wall-mount rack like that in my house, with a 24-port rack mount switch. That replaced two eight-port switches that were connected to jacks in my (too small) structured wiring cabinet.

Instead of a shelf with the cable modem, router, and switches sitting on it with a bunch of cables over to the wiring cabinet, I have the house CAT6 going to the punch-downs on the rack, the switch on top of that, and a shelf on top of that with just the cable modem and the router.

I no longer need to worry about what computer is connected to what switch since everything is on the same backplane there.

i've got a home server, X-box, Wii, 2 desktops, a wireless access point, two Apple TVs, a network printer and probably a couple of other things I'm forgetting attached to the network, plus open jacks that anyone can connect to if they need when in my house.

The end result is much better than the old setup.

stogie1020 Oct 30, 2013 02:42 PM

How many of you run a hardware firewall at home?

maharajamd Oct 30, 2013 02:46 PM

I've just got the router completely locked down.... :/

svtmike Oct 30, 2013 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by stogie1020 (Post 14731277)
How many of you run a hardware firewall at home?

I have the router locked down too.

ez12a Oct 30, 2013 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by stogie1020 (Post 14731277)
How many of you run a hardware firewall at home?

not really a hardware firewall but i did run pfsense on a spare box for a time with the IDS/IPS component. worked pretty well actually. Detected many a port scans attempts at FTP from china and the like.

maharajamd Oct 30, 2013 03:06 PM

How many of you actively use dDNS? I really want to grab one of those new Airport Extremes and get rid of my Buffalo unit. But man, no dDNS kills it! I use it all the time!

CocheseUGA Oct 30, 2013 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by svtmike (Post 14731329)
I have the router locked down too.

Same here. The log of port scans is hilarious.

svtmike Oct 30, 2013 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by CocheseUGA (Post 14731371)
Same here. The log of port scans is hilarious.

:nod:

I wonder what portion of internet traffic is bullshit port scans.

justnspace Oct 30, 2013 07:46 PM

my friend gave me another rig to replace the other one.

i7 3770
12 gigs of ram :rofl:
and a geforce gtx 550.

AZuser Oct 30, 2013 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by justnspace (Post 14731008)
a friend gave me a computer with an I7 in it.
only thing, it blue screens...

dont have extra hardware to troubleshoot, and ive already bought memory for it...
still blue screens.
not sure if its the motherboard or processor....

Even in safe mode?

Possibilities: motherboard, processor, RAM, GPU, PSU, HDD, OS,.... :shrug:

justnspace Oct 30, 2013 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by AZuser (Post 14731779)
Even in safe mode?

Possibilities: motherboard, processor, RAM, GPU, PSU, HDD,.... :shrug:

oh shit, now I have two computers to troubleshoot parts with.

AZuser Oct 30, 2013 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by justnspace (Post 14731777)
my friend gave me another rig to replace the other one.

i7 3770
12 gigs of ram :rofl:
and a geforce gtx 550.

:what:

Can I be your friend's friend too? :wish:

97BlackAckCL Nov 1, 2013 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by AZuser (Post 14731788)
:what:

Can I be your friend's friend too? :wish:

:stupid:

Ken1997TL Nov 1, 2013 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by stogie1020 (Post 14731277)
How many of you run a hardware firewall at home?

:wave:

I do. Custom Linux firewall. And yes, the port scans are very hilarious.

justnspace Nov 1, 2013 02:03 PM

i got the 2nd computer running for my brother, but when playing games the vid card doesnt display at all.
I'm thinking the PSU isnt powerful enough to power the gtx 550.

its a Dell XPS 8500 and I added the GTX550.
I'll swap power supplies with the 1st "broken" computer

Ken1997TL Nov 1, 2013 02:23 PM

That's a possibility. You might want to do a clean uninstall/reinstall of the graphics drivers as well. Oh and all the DirectX crap.

Does it work in 'windowed' mode at all? Crashes in full screen?

justnspace Nov 1, 2013 02:28 PM

^yep, fresh install of windows and all drivers.
havent tried in "windowed" mode.

for not spending a dime, i dont mind trouble shooting.
i'm glad he gave me the 2nd computer, cuz i sure as hell wasnt going to buy parts for it.


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