MrX123

Just started my new job, it's LONNNNG hours. I've been casually browsing as well as doing the training, and I think my boss knows about it, or I'm being paranoid.

I don't see how he'd be able to tell, b.c it's my personal computer, I'm just using the WiFi.

Does anyone with experience with that shit know?

I can't find a conclusive answer anywhere!

BigLizard

It's possible. But if there are a lot of clients logging on to the router, then usually they won't check. It's the client computers that are hardwired that they check the most. They are constantly monitored.

It's Clutch

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As mentioned above, depends on how many computers (both personal and corporate) there are. I know of some routers that log the IP of any computer as well as the website URL's visited.

v6cord2k5

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Blackack106

Tether yourself to your own wi-fi, use a proxy, and surf away.

alex2364

As long as you're on the company network, they can track everything. I know because at my old job, I could snoop and see what anyone was up to...including our CEO.

jupitersolo

Stop doing it for awhile, wouldn't want that to be a reason to not make it through the trial period.

Blackack106

A little off the OT, but why do companies typically want you to use you own transportation (like in sales), but they hate if you want to use your own computing power to get the job done.

Answer: control

Ken1997TL

If you're on their wifi then yes. And its very very easy.

thunder04

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it is possible for them to track most communication between your personal computer and the Internet if you are on their network. Whether or not they do it...who knows. The simple (and safe) answer is to stop doing what you shouldn't be doing .

jupitersolo

If it's about control, then they would give you a certain car to drive. I've been in sales for 20 years, it's about what's most economical for the company.

Whiskers

All standard issue routers can log web sites.

Blackack106

Seems then it would be cheaper for a company not to buy computers or have an IT dept, and instead require their employees to provide for their own computing needs????

Blackack106

Even if you are running on a proxy VPN?

thunder04

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No..it's more for support and standardization. If everyone brought their own computers it'd be a cluster f*ck to manage from an IT perspective. With company owned equipment, the company can make sure that a) their computers are compatible with whatever they need to use to conduct business, and b) they can lock down the computers so they can limit the ammount users can f*ck them up.

Whiskers

yes, the router can log the websites visited based on IP address of the PC. Only way is to use another wifi network that they don't control or stop.

jupitersolo

A computer is a tool needed for you to perform your job, it cost what $500. A car cost $20k plus maintenance for high miles put on it, plus the have to pay property taxes at a higher rate and cover you with about 500,000 worth on insurance.

Beelzebub

But as an IT person, you cannot guarantee that the person is keeping their machine up to date with AV and patches opening up your network to viruses and other malware.

and if you want to prevent what you are doing to be seen then install a proxy server on your home machine and then SSH tunnel there and now since it is secure all they will see is you connecting to your home machine. (not an easy setup though)

stogie1020

Keep doing it. If you get fired, they were tracking you.

Anachostic

To add one more viewpoint to this, if you were to use your own computer, when you left, so would all the information/data you've created.

Blackack106

So that does not happen with a usb drive?

jupitersolo

You are arguing semantics, they control your ass anyways. They tell you when to be at work and when you go home, how much money you'll make, when you can eat lunch, where you sit, what you wear.

Blackack106

Sounds like the best and most demanding boss is one that looks at you in the mirror.

Anachostic

I never said corporate theft doesn't happen. My point was that if it's company equipment, it must remain with the company. If the employee chooses to wipe the drive before turning it in, that could have legal repercussions.

stogie1020

I get paid a lot of money to root out people who do exactly that.

May companies prohibit employees from using their own gear, including USB drives, IPods, etc. in machines for this very purpose. Violation of this policy may be a terminable offense.

In the olden days (geez did I just say that?) IT departments would physically remove the floppy drives. Now they can either disable the USB or use software that only allows specific PID/VID and serial number USB devices on company machines. FW is a different ball of wax. I know work environments where cell phones with cameras are prohibited, and I know of (seen myself) people who have tried to steal proprietary formulas, data, documents, information, etc by almost any means you can come up with, and then some.

Blackack106

^ Does your investigation include old, legacy mainframes from the 1960's (punchcard era) that's been modified and moded a zillion times with a zillion records with more leaks that a 1949 Ford truck?

If not, I'm safe for tonight.

Anachostic

You had better return those punchcards.

stogie1020

If you are, in fact programming in FORTRAN on an old mainframe or better yet horsing around on an AS400 system, you are free to browse all the ASCII porn you want.


Otherwise, you will be hard pressed to succeed in subverting big brother.

Blackack106

AS400... safe but dangerous with 140,000 ssn's, names, dobs, addresses, next kin, phone numbers and over 2000 people with access that IS actually downloaded in an ASCII format.

08A-SPEC

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If you connect to the wifi at my home or work, I can tell you what your grandmother is doing at her house right now. I can tunnel right back into your PC like a wide open book and take anything I want.

srika

ive been doing this at work for about... 6-7 yrs now. kinda obvious suggestion is to name your PC something random and unidentifiable. I mean don't have your username or last name there. now that would be REALLY dumb.

black label

Fo' real, and you can run and tell that........homeboy

srika

fo sho

SRK85

If your using wifi try using this http://hotspotshield.com/ . I use it all the time at school so I can torrent and look at porn without my university knowing.

Ken1997TL

+1 for a VPN

It's also quite useful for trolling on Purse Forums..

litesout

This is basically what I've done. For the most part its not an issue here. They've got a lot of the internet blocked off, but they've left a suprising amount of it open for us to surf. When I'm on night shift, I'll bring in my laptop and tether to my phone. Its slow, but it works. Do your research before you try that though, it could wind up costing you a fortune if you're not careful about it.

Billiam

As an example of what's possible, I pointed one our recent acquisitions here at work at my own machine while viewing this thread. This is the sort of detail that modern network management systems let you drill down to.

In my case, this is a bandwidth management system. It only shows you this level of detail in a "live view" mode so that you can see what an end user station is doing if they appear to be hogging bandwidth. Nothing is permanently recorded besides bandwidth totals and the general category the traffic is categorized with. There are several other systems out there that record everything at this level of detail in the screenshot.

srika

yikes. i cant imagine what mine looks like haha. does that hotspotshield really work? and I wonder what kind of footprint that would make on the logs?

stogie1020

Does your network allow HTTPS? If not, it may not work... I know some places block it.

srika

well im up and using hotspotshield, having no trouble, but I didnt know it would give me this ad-bar at the top of every web page. not a BIG deal, you can X it out - but then it comes again if you go to another page. not a big price to pay for anonymous browsing, but I wonder what my browsing looks like on the logs? anyone know?