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AZuser 10-20-2016 08:16 PM

Olympics: 2020 Tokyo Olympic News and Discussion Thread
 
:facepalm:


https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...cs-south-korea


IOC may move some Tokyo 2020 Olympic events to South Korea

Tuesday 18 October 2016

Japanese media report canoeing and rowing may move in response to soaring costs despite promise of a ‘compact’ games.

The International Olympic Committee is considering moving the rowing and canoeing events at the Tokyo 2020 Olympics to South Korea in an attempt to cut soaring costs, according to Japanese media reports.

Depriving Japan of the events risks provoking a backlash from the Tokyo 2020 organisers, and would make a mockery of the city’s vow to hold a “compact” Games.

Kyodo News and the Asahi Shimbun on Tuesday cited unnamed sources as saying that the events could be held in the South Korean city of Chungju – one of the venues for the 2014 Asian Games – if organisers and Tokyo’s governor, Yuriko Koike, fail to agree on a site in Japan.

The option of moving the sports out of the country is reportedly being considered after a panel of experts Koike set up to review costs recently proposed moving the rowing and canoe sprint several hundred miles from the capital to a venue in north-east Japan, rather than building a new venue in Tokyo Bay.


The panel also suggested renovating existing venues in Tokyo for volleyball and swimming and scrapping plans to construct new stadia for the sports. It put the cost of hosting Tokyo 2020 at 3 trillion yen (£23bn), four times the original estimate and almost three times higher than London 2012.

Koike became Tokyo’s first female governor in July after promising to slash wasteful spending. But by targeting the Olympics as one area in which savings could be made, she risks alienating Games organisers and sports federations that have called for rowing, swimming and volleyball to be kept in Tokyo.

In a meeting with the IOC president, Thomas Bach, in Tokyo on Tuesday, Koike said the public supported her economy drive. “When I won the election two months ago, I swore to the public that the spending for the Olympics and Paralympics needed to be reviewed,” Koike said, according to Kyodo.

Koike said she would conclude her review of the three Olympic venues by the end of the month.

Bach refused to comment on “media rumours” about rowing’s possible switch to South Korea, but said the IOC was willing to work with Koike to reduce spiralling costs.

“The Tokyo metropolitan government will finalise its internal study, then we’ll discuss it with the other stakeholders ... and then I am confident that you will see a significant reduction in the cost compared to what we have seen so far from the press,” he told reporters.

The controversy over the rowing and canoe-kayak sprint competitions deepened on Tuesday after the Mainichi Shimbun newspaper claimed that the Tokyo metropolitan government had lied to the IOC about the cost of building permanent facilities for the events.

The paper said Tokyo government officials had dramatically understated construction costs in a report to the IOC, allegedly to ensure the sports would be held in the capital.

The Mainichi report quoted Tokyo government documents showing that building Sea Forest, a new rowing and canoeing facility in Tokyo Bay, would cost 25 billion yen. The estimate given to the IOC, however, was 9.8 billion yen.


“The IOC pointed out that our expenses were too high, so we gave them an unfounded figure,” the Mainichi quoted a senior Tokyo metropolitan government official as saying.

The total cost of building the Sea Forest venue, including surrounding parks and other “legacy” infrastructure, has been estimated at 49.1 billion yen. Government officials, however, said on Tuesday they should be able reduce that figure to 30 billion yen by shrinking the size of some facilities.

Olympic organisers and the International Rowing Federations are dismayed by the prospect of the event being held either in Naganuma Boat Park in Tome, Miyagi – one of three prefectures hit hard by the March 2011 earthquake and tsunami – or in South Korea.

The Miyagi option could also prove expensive, however. The Tokyo Olympic and Paralympic organising committee said turning the venue, which is 270 miles (440km) from Tokyo, into one capable of hosting the Olympics could exceed 35.1 billion yen.

“I would like to stress once again that the decision [to build a new canoeing venue in Tokyo] was made unanimously and based on thorough investigations,” Toshiaki Endo, a Tokyo 2020 executive board member, said earlier this month. “We have conducted careful examinations of all candidate rowing sites.

“As a result, all parties, including the IOC, the international federations, the national federations, Tokyo 2020 organising committee and the Tokyo metropolitan government came to the conclusion that Sea Forest Waterway was the most promising, and best suited to hosting rowing competitions.”

Japan’s sports minister, Hirokazu Matsuno, said on Tuesday that “venues for the Olympics should be located inside the host country”.

Tokyo won the right to host the Games in 2013 by promising a compact Games with 28 of the 31 competition venues within a five-mile radius of the Olympic village. Its bid stated that only venues for shooting and modern pentathlon, and one football stadium, would be located outside the radius.

Yumcha 10-20-2016 10:59 PM

I'm still looking forward to this. As far as host countries go, Japan's probably one of the coolest. :nod:

oo7spy 10-21-2016 02:36 PM

3 Trillion Yen?!

That's just dumb.

F-C 10-21-2016 03:26 PM

Any city that wants to host the Olympics is :crazy:


So let's see:

The International Olympic Committee is considering moving the rowing and canoeing events at the Tokyo 2020 Olympics to South Korea in an attempt to cut soaring costs, according to Japanese media reports.

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The option of moving the sports out of the country is reportedly being considered after a panel of experts Koike set up to review costs recently proposed moving the rowing and canoe sprint several hundred miles from the capital to a venue in north-east Japan, rather than building a new venue in Tokyo Bay.
So to cut costs, the IOC wants to move these events to a different country rather than move it to a different city? It's obviously just a threat to force Tokyo to build a new white elephant facility.

Yumcha 10-21-2016 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by oo7spy (Post 15876635)
3 Trillion Yen?!

That's just dumb.

If it's to make a full-scale operational Mazinger Z to kick off the festivities...It's all worth it. :O

Yumcha 03-22-2020 08:56 PM

Canada backs out of games if they proceed this summer due to COVID-19: https://www.tsn.ca/canada-won-t-send...oned-1.1459614

nist7 03-22-2020 10:40 PM

Yeah the IOC took way too long to convene a meeting on this. Looks like they are, not surprisingly, leading from the backseat...it took Canada to announce they won't come for the IOC to finally give in....though I'm sure the Japanese felt pressure too...I know they were very adamant that games MUST go on....though it's looking like it will likely be post poned

Mizouse 03-24-2020 09:06 AM

Delayed to 2021


https://www.olympic.org/news/joint-s...sing-committee

Yumcha 03-24-2020 09:33 AM

No Orimpics for you! :spanky:

kurtatx 03-24-2020 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by Yumcha (Post 16553843)
No Orimpics for you! :spanky:

That's racist

Yumcha 03-24-2020 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by kurtatx (Post 16553859)
That's racist

"Wacist". :O

Yumcha 03-30-2020 09:18 PM

July 23, 2021 is the new date: https://www.tsn.ca/tokyo-olympics-re...2021-1.1461611

nist7 03-31-2020 08:33 AM


Japan is officially spending $12.6 billion to organize the Olympics. However, an audit bureau of the Japanese government says the costs are twice that much. All of the spending is public money except $5.6 billion from a privately funded operating budget.
Damn. Sucks for Japan. Paid all that and now delayed and who knows how enthusiastic people are going to be traveling and gathering...even just about a year from now. Hopefully effective vaccine will have been widely distributed by then.

Mizouse 06-15-2021 10:50 AM

Interesting.

U.S. champion Shelby Houlihan banned four years for testing positive for steroid, blames result on pork burrito
https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/...s-social-media

Yumcha 06-15-2021 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by Mizouse (Post 16728865)
Interesting.

U.S. champion Shelby Houlihan banned four years for testing positive for steroid, blames result on pork burrito
https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/...s-social-media

That's quite the burrito. :D

Mizouse 07-06-2021 06:17 PM

Sucks…. But at least it’s only 3 years until the next summer Olympic’s in Paris :shrug:

Sha'Carri Richardson won't run at Tokyo Olympics after being left off U.S. relay list
https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/...-us-relay-list

Mizouse 07-06-2021 06:25 PM

She is also only 21, would still be in her prime for 2024. :dunno:

F-C 07-08-2021 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by nist7 (Post 16556943)
Damn. Sucks for Japan. Paid all that and now delayed and who knows how enthusiastic people are going to be traveling and gathering...even just about a year from now. Hopefully effective vaccine will have been widely distributed by then.

All spectators now banned from events in Tokyo. :D Prepare for the quietest games ever and the biggest bailout games ever. :D

Yumcha 07-08-2021 10:46 PM

When one of the most hospitable and polite nations in the universe says "YOU NO WELCOME...! :rice:" ...well, it's pretty seriously. YA SRSLY. :rice:

F-C 07-09-2021 03:28 PM

Spectators in Tokyo last week for the J-League match. So why exactly aren't they allowing spectators to the Olympics if they allow them for football matches? :dunno:

Probably because Olympic hooligans drink too much and do stupid things? :D

Mizouse 07-19-2021 07:05 PM

:rip:

U.S. gymnast catches COVID days before opening ceremony as coronavirus chips away at Olympic teams
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-olym...s-coronavirus/

Top Olympic sponsor Toyota pulls Games-related TV ads

https://apnews.com/article/sports-20...57005677eebe66



They should’ve just postponed them and run it the same year as the 2022 Winter Olympics.
It used to be that way prior to 1992

Yumcha 07-19-2021 11:28 PM

Anti-sex beds at the Village...? :sure:

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/tokyo-ol...044718389.html


:rofl:

BreezyTL 07-20-2021 02:57 PM

This Olympics is going to be a shit show... I kind of feel bad for the athletes.

Mizouse 07-20-2021 03:09 PM

Tomorrow is the first day competition right?

imj0257 07-20-2021 04:13 PM

I thought today was.. softball. If not today, then definitely tomorrow.

Yumcha 07-25-2021 10:11 AM

So, anyone watching? I have not tuned in to anything yet. :blush:

Mizouse 07-25-2021 02:13 PM

been watching swimming :shrug:

pttl 07-25-2021 03:03 PM

Womens Volleyball Turkey vs. China right now. Turkey taking China to school.

Yumcha 07-25-2021 03:04 PM

What a bunch of mean birds.

imj0257 07-25-2021 06:44 PM

Honestly, I don't care. I will watch track and field and maybe browse a little of the new sports, but otherwise I am just not interested. If Phelps was still racing, I'd be glued to the swimming though.

Yumcha 07-26-2021 06:08 PM

Reading the heat is almost unbearable for the outdoor athletes.

Mizouse 07-26-2021 06:19 PM

Philippines got their first ever gold medal!

Hidilyn Diaz took the gold in women’s weight lifting 55kg weight class.

She beat out Liao Qiuyuan of China. :what:


https://www.npr.org/sections/tokyo-o...years-of-tryin


Mizouse 07-26-2021 06:46 PM

Nuts! Back in December she was using broomsticks and bags to train. And now she’s got a gold medal.



definitly a far cry from the training bubble that China’s athletes trained in.

1Louder 07-28-2021 02:40 PM

Pretty crazy day yesterday for women's gymnastics. I think Biles did the right thing but stepping out. It was pretty clear based on her warm ups and first vault that whatever allows her to spin an twist and land upright was clearly malfunctioning.

Mizouse 07-28-2021 02:59 PM

She’s out for the individual all-around competition on Thursday too.

https://www.espn.com/olympics/gymnas...-mental-health

She may be able to compete next week thou for the individual events.

oonowindoo 07-30-2021 04:44 PM

Maybe because of COVID or for whatever reason, i am not interested in this year's Olympic at all... Usually i would watch for hours everyday...

Maybe deep down i dont think having the Olympic right now was a good idea..

Yumcha 07-30-2021 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by oonowindoo (Post 16743368)
Maybe because of COVID or for whatever reason, i am not interested in this year's Olympic at all... Usually i would watch for hours everyday...

Maybe deep down i dont think having the Olympic right now was a good idea..

Same here...barely tuned in. Was more interested in the MLB trade-deadline and NHL draft and free-agency period...




Mizouse 07-30-2021 05:08 PM

I’m not as interested because the footage of Japan makes me want to go :sad:

1Louder 07-30-2021 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by oonowindoo (Post 16743368)
Maybe because of COVID or for whatever reason, i am not interested in this year's Olympic at all... Usually i would watch for hours everyday...

Maybe deep down i dont think having the Olympic right now was a good idea..

I was talking with a few co workers about this. Lots of different ideas thrown around, but we all agreed they are falling really flat this year.

Past Olympics there was always some element of "us vs. the world". It just seems that the overall "US pride" we normally generate just isn't there. Seems to me we have a lot of Americans hating on our own athletes (i.e. Biles).
There was always this (real or imagined) competition with many of the other big "powerhouse" countries like the Russians and the Chinese - us vs. them. Now everyone is friends and they all have a big group hug at the end of the race.
The fact the results are all over the media by the time we wake up takes the suspense out of watching it.
Playing in empty stadiums falls flat. No crowd energy. That and all the mask wearing - it's depressing, and more of a reminder of the pandemic than an escape from it.
As much as they tried, aside from maybe Biles we don't have this cadre of "must watch" athletes to focus on. They took the one sprinter that might have done that (Richardson) and forced her out over a BS policy that desperately needs to be changed.
The coverage is just - weird. I can't put my finger on it. Maybe is the covid comment above, or something else. Used to be the networks A-list personalities did the coverage. I couldn't give you a single name of any journalist covering the games.

Or a combination of all of the above. :rofl:

oonowindoo 07-30-2021 06:08 PM

if they have more shit like this.. i would watch it... Yes @Yumcha if we could, we would sign this guy too...




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