NFL: Week 4 general discussion thread...
09-30-2007, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by StypeCL
Go Cardinals!!!!
Man, my Raiders have a shot at the crappy AFC West.
09-30-2007, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by furious1smitul
Is it me or this season just bizarre? With the exception of a few teams it's a coin toss every week thus far.
09-30-2007, 06:50 PM
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OK, yes, the Bears defense is GREAT!!! 37 points to the Lions a week after giving up 34 to the Cowboys. Yep, that's great. 
I'm saying they're not playing well. You're saying they're not playing well because of injuries, turnovers and a bad offense. Either way, they're not playing well. I understand WHY they're not playing well, but that doesn't deflect from the point that they're not playing well. It just so happens that they have valid excuses for not playing well.
Anyway, chalk up another victim to the Super Bowl runner-up hangover.
I'm saying they're not playing well. You're saying they're not playing well because of injuries, turnovers and a bad offense. Either way, they're not playing well. I understand WHY they're not playing well, but that doesn't deflect from the point that they're not playing well. It just so happens that they have valid excuses for not playing well.
Anyway, chalk up another victim to the Super Bowl runner-up hangover.
Can we please discount the points off of interception returns and etc. first please...?
Wow...dude, you're absolutely a box-score watcher and nothing else. Quote me the yardage and THEN we'll talk about the defense not playing well. Mkay? They are playing FINE. I never said the Bears D was not playing well. Are they struggling? Don't think so. You're going off of "Okay, the Bears allowed points because of a turnover at say the 15 yard line of their own territory...so, yeah...the D is no good."
Are you serious?
09-30-2007, 07:01 PM
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09-30-2007, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Can we please discount the points off of interception returns and etc. first please...?
Wow...dude, you're absolutely a box-score watcher and nothing else. Quote me the yardage and THEN we'll talk about the defense not playing well. Mkay? They are playing FINE. I never said the Bears D was not playing well. Are they struggling? Don't think so. You're going off of "Okay, the Bears allowed points because of a turnover at say the 15 yard line of their own territory...so, yeah...the D is no good."
Are you serious?
But you also can't be serious that they played well because they got six sacks. And you can't be serious that I literally meant the Bears have NO DEFENSE. C'mon. I mean, geez, I never said they were the Bengals.
But I don't think the Bears defense strikes fear in opponents any more. They are just missing too many key people. If you want to talk specifically yardage, the Bears aren't good either. When all is said and done, the Bears will end up being a mediocre defense.
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09-30-2007, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by NetEditor
Sorry, you're right about that. I realized that after I posted. I just quickly glanced at the scores for the past two weeks.
But you also can't be serious that they played well because they got six sacks. And you can't be serious that I literally meant the Bears have NO DEFENSE. C'mon.
But you also can't be serious that they played well because they got six sacks. And you can't be serious that I literally meant the Bears have NO DEFENSE. C'mon.
But I don't think the Bears defense strikes fear in opponents any more. They are just missing too many key people. If you want to talk specifically yardage, the Bears aren't good either. When all is said and done, the Bears will end up being a mediocre defense.
And opponents scoring points off of a tired defense or from working with a short field again does not signify a poor Chicago defense.
Please don't get me wrong as some blinded fan who can't see the forest for the trees. I know where the team blows...and until something is done to address those areas on Offense, not even the 1984 defense will help.
09-30-2007, 07:17 PM
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Thank goodness hockey season is starting and the Cubbies are in the playoffs...
...then again, it's just likely more reason to get more ulcers.
...then again, it's just likely more reason to get more ulcers.
09-30-2007, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by StypeCL
Go Cardinals!!!!
09-30-2007, 07:24 PM
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I'm going to have to generally agree w/ Yumchah on this one - I think the defense for the Bears is pretty good - I know you say you were being sarcastic when you said they have no D, NE, but even saying that their D sucks isn't very accurate. However, at this point I think we've pretty much argued this down to an agreement. From now on, definitives (i.e. "No D") shouldn't be used unless they're very very close to being accurate.
09-30-2007, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by revitupwriteitoff
I'm going to have to generally agree w/ Yumchah on this one - I think the defense for the Bears is pretty good - I know you say you were being sarcastic when you said they have no D, NE, but even saying that their D sucks isn't very accurate. However, at this point I think we've pretty much argued this down to an agreement. From now on, definitives (i.e. "No D") shouldn't be used unless they're very very close to being accurate.
Granted, it's mostly because they've lost so many starters, but still. And their best games so far (Chargers and K.C.) had a lot to do with inept opposing offenses. The Chargers are a mess as is K.C.
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09-30-2007, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by NetEditor
Well, we'll see when the season ends. I've seen the Bears-Chargers, Bears-Cowboys and part of the Bears-K.C. game. I don't see much more than an average defense at best. Granted, it's mostly because they've lost so many starters, but still.
Granted, it's mostly because they've lost so many starters, but still.hell, I didn't even know the Raiders were still playing in the NFL.
09-30-2007, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by revitupwriteitoff
hell, I didn't even know the Raiders were still playing in the NFL.
09-30-2007, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by NetEditor
Well, we'll see when the season ends. I've seen the Bears-Chargers, Bears-Cowboys and part of the Bears-K.C. game. I don't see much more than an average defense at best. Granted, it's mostly because they've lost so many starters, but still.
Granted, it's mostly because they've lost so many starters, but still.
Holding LT and LJ to sub-100 yards of rushing is average defending...? You do realize that the Bears were very much in the Cowboys tilt until Grossman self-destructed, right...?
09-30-2007, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Holding LT and LJ to sub-100 yards of rushing is average defending...? You do realize that the Bears were very much in the Cowboys tilt until Grossman self-destructed, right...?
And don't be fooled. Holding down LT and LJ this year is not like holding them down last year. Both of those teams are a mess. ... Thank God.
09-30-2007, 08:17 PM
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What the hell the Jets lost to the Bills, Dallas blows out St. Louis, and the Cards beat the Steelers. Bunch of other upsets too, odd day in the NFL.
09-30-2007, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Eoanou
What the hell the Jets lost to the Bills, Dallas blows out St. Louis, and the Cards beat the Steelers. Bunch of other upsets too, odd day in the NFL.
What what what what? This isn't 1999, right?
09-30-2007, 08:34 PM
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Packers 4 and 0 
09-30-2007, 08:55 PM
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For What It's Worth Stat:
The 34 points given up by the Bears in the 4th quarter were the most EVER given up in a 4th quarter. By any team. In NFL history.
The 34 points given up by the Bears in the 4th quarter were the most EVER given up in a 4th quarter. By any team. In NFL history.
09-30-2007, 09:01 PM
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For What It's Worth Stat:
The 34 points given up by the Bears in the 4th quarter were the most EVER given up in a 4th quarter. By any team. In NFL history.
The 34 points given up by the Bears in the 4th quarter were the most EVER given up in a 4th quarter. By any team. In NFL history.
09-30-2007, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by IlliNorge
For What It's Worth Stat:
The 34 points given up by the Bears in the 4th quarter were the most EVER given up in a 4th quarter. By any team. In NFL history.
The 34 points given up by the Bears in the 4th quarter were the most EVER given up in a 4th quarter. By any team. In NFL history.
look at it this way, Bears fan(s), they gave up an average of 1 point/quarter the 1st three quarters!!!
09-30-2007, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by revitupwriteitoff
look at it this way, Bears fan(s), they gave up an average of 1 point/quarter the 1st three quarters!!!
09-30-2007, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by revitupwriteitoff
not too fast...had they given up 4th quarter points the whole game, they'd have lost 136-27. That's 109 points.
I only kick Scottard's team. And that's on principle. And okay...maybe Green Bay. But, that's a given and pre-req.
09-30-2007, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by revitupwriteitoff
not too fast...had they given up 4th quarter points the whole game, they'd have lost 136-27. That's 109 points.
09-30-2007, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Stop e-kicking me while I'm down, will ya...? I didn't e-kick your team when they slumped last year, did I...?
No idea...I had like 25 posts on here during last year's season & none of them were in R&P
I'll lay off, though
BEARS SUCK!!!!!!!!!
09-30-2007, 10:01 PM
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Brrrrrr, is it coldd in here?
09-30-2007, 10:13 PM
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How are your nipples...?
nice, yumster....cutting glass, baby
09-30-2007, 10:19 PM
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nice, yumster....cutting glass, baby
09-30-2007, 10:21 PM
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<-----look familiar 
09-30-2007, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Oh quiet. Don't you have a miserable football team to go suck it up with...?
09-30-2007, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by wndrlst
<-----look familiar My only hope of happiness from football this week is that if Scottard's team can beat Belicheat's team.
SO, SCOTTARD, YOU BETTER NOT FAIL ME, MAN!
09-30-2007, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by IlliNorge
Yes, but we've got TWO weeks to find a QB before our next game.
09-30-2007, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Pull_T
Kitna solidifies the Lions playoff run while Da Bears sink low low low like eveyr D-heavy team who has ever made the Super Bowl.
Teams without balance cannot repeat previous success.....Saints/bears in this case.
Teams without balance cannot repeat previous success.....Saints/bears in this case.
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Pull_T: HEY, did Hester just return a kick for a TD again...?
Originally Posted by Pull_T
The Cowboys will finish with at least two more wins than the Bears.
I really see Chicago as a 7-9 type team.
I really see Chicago as a 7-9 type team.
Originally Posted by Yumchah
Well, I'll hafta say we'll need to agree to disagree, Pull_T. I'm setting the over and under for Chicago's win record at 10.
09-30-2007, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Pull_T
I'd be happy with moral victories too if I was a Bears fan.
I'll abandon ship after they go 1-6, mkay?
09-30-2007, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Still @ 10Ws thank-you.
I'll abandon ship after they go 1-6, mkay?
I'll abandon ship after they go 1-6, mkay?
Maybe he's busy watching LT cry in press conferences.