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Old 02-22-2019, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by nist7
Holy damn, all the top news sites are running the Kraft prostitution story on their main headlines....I bet this looks VERY bad for the team/organization.

I would not be surprised if Kraft is ousted or voluntarily resigns. This is a PR nightmare.
Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but I think if anything this will make Kraft even more popular, I mean, at his age? Good for him, he's my hero.
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Doubt Kraft voluntarily sells the team because of this. Prostitution isn't the hot topic like racist comments a la former Clippers owner Donald Sterling. And to the one why does a billionaire need a hooker. It's pretty especially when you're 70 years old.
No way he sells the team. An embarrassment, yes but I don't see this as a big deal. It's a misdemeanor and he still has to be proven guilty - although supposedly there is video. Dumbass move, lapse in judgement, etc...... He will get a year probation and likely won't even have to appear in court.
Yeah - I see that side (this is what my wife said) but.......... I think he has a girlfriend 30 years his junior or maybe he had? Oh and let's give credit where do - he isn't 70, he is 77.
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Originally Posted by Doom878
Doubt Kraft voluntarily sells the team because of this. Prostitution isn't the hot topic like racist comments a la former Clippers owner Donald Sterling. And to the one why does a billionaire need a hooker. It's pretty especially when you're 70 years old.
Oh no not selling the team.

Likely his son (or someone else) will take over. But I highly doubt he himself will remain the head honcho of the Patriots any longer and if his own company is run by a board...he may be ousted by his own board also from the Kraft Group....
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Originally Posted by nist7
Oh no not selling the team.

Likely his son (or someone else) will take over. But I highly doubt he himself will remain the head honcho of the Patriots any longer and if his own company is run by a board...he may be ousted by his own board also from the Kraft Group....
Don't even see that happening.
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Originally Posted by horseshoez
Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but I think if anything this will make Kraft even more popular, I mean, at his age? Good for him, he's my hero.
Wow. Okay. Don't even know how to respond to this. No I'm not being sarcastic.

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No way he sells the team. An embarrassment, yes but I don't see this as a big deal. It's a misdemeanor and he still has to be proven guilty - although supposedly there is video. Dumbass move, lapse in judgement, etc...... He will get a year probation and likely won't even have to appear in court.
Yeah - I see that side (this is what my wife said) but.......... I think he has a girlfriend 30 years his junior or maybe he had? Oh and let's give credit where do - he isn't 70, he is 77.
How much you think TMZ will offer the leaker of THAT video?

Bet Kraft's lawyer team is in full speed right now....
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I've spoken to several people in law enforcement at various levels and surprisingly some of them are actually for legalization of prostitution. It would take away power from the criminal organizations that run these things, and give protections to the workers employed in the field.

An acquaintance of mine works for an organization that helps out former sex workers. It's sad because many of these women don't speak English and are completely new to the country, without family or friends locally to help them out. They're lured here under false pretenses, then are trapped. Basically what the Redskins cheerleaders went through, but magnitudes worse.

It's not necessarily an indictment on Kraft himself, but there are problems related to it that aren't apparent on the surface. Nobody in their right mind willingly comes to a strange country to give happy endings to strangers.
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No wonder Kraft is buddies with Dennisov.
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Originally Posted by NBP04TL4ME
Don't even see that happening.
Guess time will tell.

The issue that's more concerning is that it is connected to human trafficking and there is potential for a video leak.


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Originally Posted by nist7
Holy damn, all the top news sites are running the Kraft prostitution story on their main headlines....I bet this looks VERY bad for the team/organization.

I would not be surprised if Kraft is ousted or voluntarily resigns. This is a PR nightmare.
Ousted? He's the owner...
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Old 02-22-2019, 01:16 PM
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Ousted? He's the owner...
I was thinking could he relinquish control over to his son or something?

Doubt he will be selling the team like Sterling
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Old 02-22-2019, 01:18 PM
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Potentially an opportunity for him to retire, but again doubt it.
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Originally Posted by nist7
Wow. Okay. Don't even know how to respond to this. No I'm not being sarcastic.
Seriously? I mean think about it, who the hell cares? That and it will have exactly zero to do with his ability to run the company. Time to keep your personal morals to yourself.
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Originally Posted by NBP04TL4ME
Potentially an opportunity for him to retire, but again doubt it.
Guess it's still way too early now to really know which way this will go
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Hope Goodell strips the Pats of their Superbowls.
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Old 02-22-2019, 01:22 PM
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Hope Goodell strips the Pats of their Superbowls.
Nah, Kraft has photos of Goodell gettin' some strange as well.
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This is a story for a few days and then I think it fades into the background. I doubt Kraft will alter anything regarding his role in the organization. Remember this is a country where paying $135k to cover up sex isn't a big deal and certainly doesn't cost you your job. My vote is this blows over if he lays low.

However everything I said would change obviously if this brothel turned out to really have a human trafficking issue or involved minors. The worse this place is, the worse it will be for him.
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Originally Posted by horseshoez
Seriously? I mean think about it, who the hell cares? That and it will have exactly zero to do with his ability to run the company. Time to keep your personal morals to yourself.
lol.

Oh I could careless about some billionaire visiting an asian massage parlor....rich (and poor) dudes probably do that all the time and don't get caught.

I was simply predicting the possible public backlash/reaction. He's head of a very visible and VERY popular NFL team....there are bound to be pressures from the NFL and other owners and the society at large that won't "keep their morals to themselves" and lash out. Hence my thinking he could be pressured to retire/relinquish control.
Also there's the possibility of a video being leaked.

Though the Kraft Group may not be as affected...depending on how/or if the Kraft Group has an executive board that can overpower Kraft himself....
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Originally Posted by nist7
lol.

Oh I could careless about some billionaire visiting an asian massage parlor....rich (and poor) dudes probably do that all the time and don't get caught.

I was simply predicting the possible public backlash/reaction. He's head of a very visible and VERY popular NFL team....there are bound to be pressures from the NFL and other owners and the society at large that won't "keep their morals to themselves" and lash out. Hence my thinking he could be pressured to retire/relinquish control.
Also there's the possibility of a video being leaked.

Though the Kraft Group may not be as affected...depending on how/or if the Kraft Group has an executive board that can overpower Kraft himself....
NFL doesn't care.

If it was rumored that Kraft was seen lighting up a joint though... ban this man and all of his kin for the rest of eternity.
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Originally Posted by nist7
lol.

Oh I could careless about some billionaire visiting an asian massage parlor....rich (and poor) dudes probably do that all the time and don't get caught.

I was simply predicting the possible public backlash/reaction. He's head of a very visible and VERY popular NFL team....there are bound to be pressures from the NFL and other owners and the society at large that won't "keep their morals to themselves" and lash out. Hence my thinking he could be pressured to retire/relinquish control.
Also there's the possibility of a video being leaked.

Though the Kraft Group may not be as affected...depending on how/or if the Kraft Group has an executive board that can overpower Kraft himself....
In the grand scheme of things it won't matter one iota; if anything I predict he'll grow in popularity.
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So now Kraft gets to add prostitution ring to his collection of rings
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Originally Posted by Costco
NFL doesn't care.

If it was rumored that Kraft was seen lighting up a joint though... ban this man and all of his kin for the rest of eternity.
Originally Posted by horseshoez
In the grand scheme of things it won't matter one iota; if anything I predict he'll grow in popularity.
^^^
Dang, maybe I'm overreacting then. I could be projecting too much and think people/NFL/society actually cares about this kind of stuff. Maybe not.
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The article was updated saying he is not being charged with Human Trafficking.

it did say he’s supposedly a regular there.

wtf? Why would a billionaire goto some public cheap sleazy massage parlor for a happy ending?

Hasn’t this guy heard of incalls with “escorts”?

Also why risk being recognized and blackmailed?

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Who knew that the Patriots' seventh ring would be a Prostitution Ring?
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Rub n tugs are more American than cheeseburgers on the 4th
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So is human trafficking and slavery.....
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But he's no Big Ben, forcible raping young women.
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Hate to say it, but I agree with the “no one will care” comment. The Super Bowl is the largest human trafficking event in the US annually. It’s been known for years.

The police and a bunch of people who don’t buy NFL tickets care. That’s about it.
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Those poor 37 year olds...

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Originally Posted by Mizouse
The article was updated saying he is not being charged with Human Trafficking.

it did say he’s supposedly a regular there.

wtf? Why would a billionaire goto some public cheap sleazy massage parlor for a happy ending?

Hasn’t this guy heard of incalls with “escorts”?

Also why risk being recognized and blackmailed?

He is being charged with two counts - not sure if that makes him a regular or he is only on tape twice. Otherwise I agree with you 100% and this is what i was eluding to above. He is a multi billionaire.............
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Steelers: "There is no bigger drama than us with AB and LB...!"
Kraft: "Hold my beer."
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When this all went down Kraft's legal team was hard working to get him off (again).

At the end of the day it will just be a happy ending for Kraft.
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When this all went down Kraft's legal team was hard working to get him off (again).

At the end of the day it will just be a happy ending for Kraft.
I'm not sure - this morning I saw the police reporting they have two videos of Kraft "receiving services". That's difficult to get around. His legal team might be focused on minimizing sentencing......
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I'm not sure - this morning I saw the police reporting they have two videos of Kraft "receiving services". That's difficult to get around. His legal team might be focused on minimizing sentencing......
Hey man...if R Kelly can get off somehow with being caught on tape before with an underage, maybe Kraft will escape too. Rich people get special escape routes us humans don't have.


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Jim Irsay was suspended 6 games in 2014 for a DUI

https://twitter.com/BenVolin/status/1099014508964732928?s=20

The NFL likes to hand out arbitrary forms of punishment. I don't think anything will happen to Kraft, but things are gonna get awkward in the organization and within his family.
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Local news in MA have had legal experts giving their $0.02. First you have to remember the charges are misdemeanors and then add the fact that he has no criminal background/history. They are saying (speculating??) that he won't have to appear in court, will likely be represented by his legal team and will likely get a year of probation and potentially some community service hours.
As others have mentioned above, the bigger deal is having to deal with family, friends, business partners and the NFL / Goodell.
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I know most of us were likely looking at the names and birth dates on this list, but nobody mentioned or happened to catch the ironic name of the reporter who posted the names.

I don't recognize any of the names but my understanding is there is a former Citibank CEO and another big wheel financial name there as well. I also saw something from Adam Schefter eluding to the fact there is another name bigger than Kraft's that has yet to be disclosed.
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I also saw something from Adam Schefter eluding to the fact there is another name bigger than Kraft's that has yet to be disclosed.
Watch it be Roger Goodell.
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Watch it be Roger Goodell.
Tom Brady.
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Yeah, that’s definitely not the full list.
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