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Old 10-23-2017, 04:11 PM
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I think it's safe to say that aside from the guys that got injured, Matt Ryan is the biggest fantasy football bust in the league
I won my league last year with him and David Johnson... where are they now?? Funny thing is, I re-drafted Ryan but I've been riding DeShaun Watson so far this year, up until this week when he's on bye. I actually just dropped Ryan to pickup Aaron Rodgers, on the off chance he comes back at the end of the year. Hopefully Watson stays healthy and doesn't hit the rookie wall.
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Old 10-23-2017, 04:13 PM
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Rodgers is scheduled to come back week 15 so unless you're in the finals you won't be able to use him
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Old 10-23-2017, 06:03 PM
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Guy in my league drafted David Johnson and Dalvin Cook, followed by Isaiah Crowell

He's understandably in 2nd to last
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The Jags still have plenty of cap space IIRC. If Cousins decides to go to them next season...
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Old 10-23-2017, 09:04 PM
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Are the seahawks still having o-line issues?
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Seahawks have been having O-line issues for the past couple of season, nothing has changed with them.

I feel like once Marshawn left(other reasons as well), the team sort of crumbled, but, that's just my opinion.
I think it's a combination of the two. We had a pretty good O-Line in 2013/4. And Marshawn's style of running made up for any weaknesses. Now we don't have that punishing runner that can make his own holes, and the O-line isn't as good. We struggle to run, and Wilson is running for his life half the time. We've played six games and have 2 rushing TDs, one by Wilson.

It's frustrating because we have fundamentally the same team, same skill players, same defense. A good o-line would make any one of our many RBs productive.
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Old 10-23-2017, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by elessar
I won my league last year with him and David Johnson... where are they now?? Funny thing is, I re-drafted Ryan but I've been riding DeShaun Watson so far this year, up until this week when he's on bye. I actually just dropped Ryan to pickup Aaron Rodgers, on the off chance he comes back at the end of the year. Hopefully Watson stays healthy and doesn't hit the rookie wall.
I had both Ryan and Rodgers last year - embarrassment of riches at QB. I kept Ryan because I drafted him so low he was a steal to keep. I read quite a bit about how he may have a hangover year, but I foolishly ignored it. I got Luck very late as well and figured if Ryan faltered Luck would be back mid-season. So, nothing is really panning out this year.
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Old 10-23-2017, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Louder

It's frustrating because we have fundamentally the same team, same skill players, same defense. A good o-line would make any one of our many RBs productive.
I'm not trying to sound like an dick but it just goes to show how spoiled I am with the Pats. Literally at the beginning of every year is SB or bust.

The Seahawks were on top of the world 3yrs ago with a young QB and one of the best defenses of all time. Crazy how fast it can all come down
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Old 10-23-2017, 10:47 PM
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I'm not trying to sound like an dick but it just goes to show how spoiled I am with the Pats. Literally at the beginning of every year is SB or bust.

The Seahawks were on top of the world 3yrs ago with a young QB and one of the best defenses of all time. Crazy how fast it can all come down
Crazy how little it takes too. Just an o-lineman or two.

Folks in Atlanta have to be asking themselves the same questions. No fundamental shift in personnel, so why two dramatically different seasons.

I think history will show Billichick has a system that transcends personnel changes. And Brady (but then again, he pulled him out of the 6th round...). It's frustrating if that's NOT your team , but you can't argue with the track record.
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Old 10-23-2017, 10:53 PM
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6-1 thank you Carson Wentz.
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Old 10-23-2017, 11:04 PM
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Cant believe this was 7yrs ago. Vick made it look so effortless

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Old 10-26-2017, 02:12 PM
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I was listening to sports talk radio for the first time in awhile and they were talking about the top coaches in the league and couldn't agree with a top 5.

I don't think putting Bill 1st is biased. 2-5 was a lot harder than I first thought. Between Carrol, Tomlin, Harbaugh, Payton, McCarthy, Arians, Rivera, Reid, I couldn't really narrow it down. Idk what do you guys think
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Old 10-26-2017, 02:45 PM
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Hot take city considering we don't know what part is scheme vs personnel. Is it the groceries or the grocery getter. Bill def worked out in NE but even he couldn't save Cleveland.
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Old 10-26-2017, 03:31 PM
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Ok if you dont have Bill at 1 that's fine () What's your top 5
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Old 10-26-2017, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Joneill44
Rodgers is scheduled to come back week 15 so unless you're in the finals you won't be able to use him
My league goes all the way through Week 17 - always has. Kinda makes it interesting. Even more interesting if I can spot-start Aaron Freaking Rodgers for the fantasy playoffs.

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Cant believe this was 7yrs ago. Vick made it look so effortless
Yeah, I remember that... I had just picked him up in fantasy and decided to start him for that MNF game, because whoever the hell my regular starter was, he was on bye that week. Needless to say, Vick was my regular starter after that.
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Old 10-27-2017, 07:00 AM
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Ok if you dont have Bill at 1 that's fine () What's your top 5
No he is my #1 but my point is we are taking uneducated guesses. But given the # of rings, tenure, overall record, and consistency, he HAS to be #1 clear cut. After that good luck. Marvin Lewis is 2nd longest tenured. Is he really a top 5 coach?
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Old 10-27-2017, 07:11 AM
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I don't want this to turn into the QB debate we had. This one is more for fun. Put it this way if your coach retired today who would you want to take his place
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I don't want this to turn into the QB debate we had. This one is more for fun. Put it this way if your coach retired today who would you want to take his place
Aaron Rodgers
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Old 10-27-2017, 09:21 AM
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Dolphins are freaking bipolar this year... Either they're on a 3-game win streak against decent teams, or they just forget to show up and get completely steamrolled.

I mean, they almost always end up within a game of .500 anyway... I guess they're just doing it in an extra-entertaining way this year?

I blame Goodell for making them take their bye in Week 1 because of the hurricane, and then refusing to let them move their London game over here.
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Old 10-27-2017, 09:26 AM
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You saw Suh pick up that dude with one arm. Monster. And Kiko's hit....
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Old 10-27-2017, 01:15 PM
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Dolphins are freaking bipolar this year... Either they're on a 3-game win streak against decent teams, or they just forget to show up and get completely steamrolled.

I mean, they almost always end up within a game of .500 anyway... I guess they're just doing it in an extra-entertaining way this year?

I blame Goodell for making them take their bye in Week 1 because of the hurricane, and then refusing to let them move their London game over here.
IMHO, the explanation for Miami's season begins and ends with your QB situation. Cutler is a bi-polar QB. And now you are onto the guy who the team looked at and said, "no, not him, better get Cutler out of retirement instead. That's our better option."

I think better days await next season for sure.
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Old 10-27-2017, 01:19 PM
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You saw Suh pick up that dude with one arm. Monster. And Kiko's hit....
Well yeah, but I kinda wish they would put that energy into, you know, legal hits that might actually help them win games & stuff...
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Originally Posted by 1Louder
IMHO, the explanation for Miami's season begins and ends with your QB situation. Cutler is a bi-polar QB. And now you are onto the guy who the team looked at and said, "no, not him, better get Cutler out of retirement instead. That's our better option."

I think better days await next season for sure.
Tannehill better be ready next year!
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Ok if you dont have Bill at 1 that's fine () What's your top 5
1. Rex Ryan
2. Eric Mangini
3. Dom Capers
4. Nick Saban
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1. Ditka
2. Ditka
3. Ditka
4. Ditka
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Originally Posted by 1Louder
IMHO, the explanation for Miami's season begins and ends with your QB situation. Cutler is a bi-polar QB. And now you are onto the guy who the team looked at and said, "no, not him, better get Cutler out of retirement instead. That's our better option."

I think better days await next season for sure.
The O-line is a joke. Easily among the worst mind you with 3 1st rounders. But if you have a mediocre QB then you'll stack the line and dare them to run. Chicken/Egg

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Well yeah, but I kinda wish they would put that energy into, you know, legal hits that might actually help them win games & stuff...
A lot of people say the hit was clean. Flacco slid too late.
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Bears need as much help at receiver as the US needs a new POTUS.
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So they don't need any help
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So they don't need any help
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Bears need as much help at receiver as the US needs a new POTUS.
That Zach Miller injury was painful to watch.
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That Zach Miller injury was painful to watch.
Insult to injury was the TD reversal too.

Sigh.


Mitch isn't horrid but I wonder if Bears made the right pick with Watson continuing to shatter records. Then again, the Texans are not really in a full rebuild as the Bears are.
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Speaking of the Texans, that game against the Seahawks was ...
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Speaking of the Texans, that game against the Seahawks was ...
Looked fine to me.

33 yeards rushing, 30 from Wilson. At least they stopped pretending to run and go with what works.

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^That game had a lot of passing TD's
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Texans Seahawks game was extremely entertaining to watch.
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Texans Seahawks game was extremely entertaining to watch.
I thought we were dead after that late interception. But for all the problems the Hawks can have on offense, they are really good when the pressure is on.
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Hopkins went off. Unfortunately I started the wrong bunch of other players on my ff team. Hopkins had almost half my points lol
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That Zach Miller injury was painful to watch.
Holy CR@P. Hope they can save his leg.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/doctors...133453600.html
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