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Old 06-10-2010, 10:31 AM
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NCAA Football: USC West is Out!

Does this mean the records will be changed to show Oklahoma or Auburn as National Champs?


Posted on Thu, Jun. 10, 2010
Report: Southern Cal to get two-year bowl game ban
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The University of Southern California will reportedly be slapped with a two-year bowl ban by the NCAA and will also lose more than 20 football scholarships when violations within the athletics program are revealed, possibly as early as Thursday.

The Los Angeles Times reported the NCAA informed Southern Cal of the decision Wednesday night, culminating a four-year investigation into allegations stemming from ex-Trojan football player Reggie Bush and basketball star O.J. Mayo.

There exists a possibility of a forfeiture of football victories from Southern Cal's 2004 national championship season and a stripping of Bush's 2005 Heisman Trophy Award.

A spokesman said Southern Cal will not comment until the NCAA releases its findings. There was no word from the school on a possible Thursday news conference.

Earlier this year, the school implemented self-imposed sanctions, including a postseason ban this past year, on its men's basketball program for violations of NCAA rules. The penalties came as the result of an internal investigation regarding rules violations related to Mayo, who played for the Trojans during the 2007-08 season before leaving for the NBA.

Tim Floyd was the coach of the Trojans when Mayo played for the school and last June announced his resignation in the wake of a Yahoo! Sports report that he made a cash payment to Rodney Guillory in the recruitment of Mayo, who now plays for the Memphis Grizzlies. According to the original Yahoo! story last May, Guillory received money from a sports agency for steering Mayo to Southern Cal. The school announced the Trojans would vacate all wins during the 2007-2008 regular season and will also return to the NCAA money it received through the Pac-10 Conference for its participation in the 2008 NCAA Tournament.

Bush, a current member of the New Orleans Saints, reportedly accepted gifts in violation of NCAA policies. A report surfaced in 2006 from Yahoo! Sports that Bush's family accepted travel accommodations from an employee of a marketing agent, who later signed Bush as a client.

The Times reports Southern Cal had been awaiting the NCAA's ruling since a three-day February meeting from the organization's Committee on Infractions. The Southern Cal contingent included president Steven Sample, athletic director Mike Garrett and former football coach Pete Carroll.

Carroll spent nine seasons at Southern Cal, where he won an unprecedented seven consecutive Pac-10 titles and two national championships before leaving this winter for the head coaching job of the Seattle Seahawks.

http://www.thestate.com/2010/06/10/1...year-bowl.html
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The AP already came out and said they won't revote. There just won't be a champion IMO
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Thats why Pete Carroll jetted off to Seattle, he knew they were giving reggie some cash, and said screw this, Damn 2 years with out a bowl game
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30 scholarship losses will hurt even more.. it'll be at minimum 5-7 years before USC can recover... USC can only sign 45 players over the next 3 years... that is huge considering attrition that normally happens with recruiting.
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Doesn't seem harsh enough.
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Doesn't seem harsh enough.
They were hit hard, no matter what Kiffin & the AD are saying publicly.. it will take years after the probation ends for them to be competitive. Kiffin has yet to show that he can actually coach a team, so even if they get talent they won't be the USC of old.
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Originally Posted by hornyleprechaun
They were hit hard, no matter what Kiffin & the AD are saying publicly.. it will take years after the probation ends for them to be competitive. Kiffin has yet to show that he can actually coach a team, so even if they get talent they won't be the USC of old.
No financial penalties though, except for the NCAA tournament money. Perhaps bowl payouts are beyond the control of the NCAA?
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I believe pretty much everything postseason is outside the control of the NCAA.
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Originally Posted by F-C
No financial penalties though, except for the NCAA tournament money. Perhaps bowl payouts are beyond the control of the NCAA?
They had to return money, can't find the list though. I don't know if the NCAA will pursue the money from the 2004 national championship. They will be hit financially because they can't participate in bowl games. This was pretty significant, and with Kiffin running the program they are a violation away from a death penalty, or a modified version.

They also considered a TV ban, but decided not to give USC one.
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RB will keep his Heisman, and SC will suffer from the loss of some scholarships, but they still have arguably the strongest recruiting class in the country. We'll have to see what happens.
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Meanwhile, Bush and Carroll go laughing to the bank. While I don't have any sympathy for Southern Cal, these penalties never punish the actual people that made the infractions. Southern Cal should sue Carroll or Bush for damages. Or the NCAA should have everyone involved in college athletics, including students, sign a form saying that they will be sued for financial damages if they violate the rules.
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I can go with that.
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Originally Posted by princelybug
RB will keep his Heisman, and SC will suffer from the loss of some scholarships, but they still have arguably the strongest recruiting class in the country. We'll have to see what happens.
And yet they still have Lane Kiffin as head coach..

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Meanwhile, Bush and Carroll go laughing to the bank. While I don't have any sympathy for Southern Cal, these penalties never punish the actual people that made the infractions. Southern Cal should sue Carroll or Bush for damages. Or the NCAA should have everyone involved in college athletics, including students, sign a form saying that they will be sued for financial damages if they violate the rules.
The school gets penalized because they didn't monitor their coaches/programs. They knew what was going on, and they will deal with the penalties. Universities have departments that are supposed to make sure violations do not occur. USC's fault IMO
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I will admit.. we are done.

Losing 10 scholarships for 3 straight years will have a huge impact on the depth chart.. It'll be take years to overcome this..
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Originally Posted by hornyleprechaun
And yet they still have Lane Kiffin as head coach..
True. I wonder why in the world he still took this job, knowing this was going to happen?

I know...$$$.
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Originally Posted by princelybug
True. I wonder why in the world he still took this job, knowing this was going to happen?

I know...$$$.
Because he still hasn't proven anything as a head coach, will be locked in as USC's head coach with no expectations, sunny California instead of shitty Knoxville, and $$$$
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it was a great decision by him.
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^^^ Very, very true. Rocky Top will be crying for the days of Fat Phillip Fulmer by the fifth game of this season. All of the SEC teams with a single nation championship (USCeast has no idea, so I'm not speaking from experience), think they are suppose to repeat year end and year out. Florida and Alabama have heritage... the rest of us are in the lottery and waiting for a horseshoe to fall from our ass for a BCS.

Kiffen made the right move.
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