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We had my daughter's baby shower in 2013 on a Saturday from 1-4 or something like that. Same day as TAMU vs. Bama the year after Johnny broke their hearts. That was tough to deal with.
Schedule your DVR, don't wear any apparel, ask your sister to keep the game off, and tell everyone who knows you to not speak of the game. I did that for years and never had a major issue.
Vegas has Bama by 19 over TAMU. I am not much of a betting man, but I would be willing to take that one. I'll admit I think we need a couple of lucky breaks to win the game, but I expect it to be closer than that. If we do lose, I just hope it's in overtime.
Bama was the better team, but A&M played solid most of the game. They gave up some big plays, as usual, but way to hang in there and hold them to a few field goals.
I thought both targeting reviewed penalties should have been enforced. First one when Bama player hit A&M player.. so loud. I'm surprised Noil didn't die. Might as well mention here that Noil and Seals-Jones are and have been absolutely fucking useless this and last season. IMO they are big names that are either injured, and if not injured, do nothing during games... hype but nothing to show for it.
Knight did well... did what he could. Overall, Alabama was better (no fucking surprise) but IMO should have been closer... I could have seen that as a 3 point game.
On a last note... who the fuck are these Vegas line people? Line was 19. Bama won by 19. How in the FUCK?
Bama is the better team, but they are also the best team, by far. They can be beaten, but you can't make very many mistakes to do it. The roughing the passer on 3rd down and ten after the QB threw the ball away is what did us in. If that had not happened, it would've been a much closer game. Couple that with the three mistakes Knight made the following two drives, and it was game over. Can't make mistakes against championship teams, but a 1 loss season can still lead to a ring.
I'm glad OSU lost though. Maybe we'll move up.
EDIT: Just read an article about AP ranks. A&M 9th. Louisville loses to #2 Clemson; 5th. OSU loses to nobody PSU; 6th. TAMU leads Bama for 6 minutes in the second half, loses to #1, why not 9th place. Makes sense.
This is why I like the committee. They aren't nearly as biased or kiss-ass to the power houses. It's the best teams this season, not ever.
OSU seems over rated to begin with this year. It was great to be at the game and watch PSU take them down. Hell of a game being in front of a 107280 fans. Just nothing compares to the 100k+ size of a very limited few college stadiums. Such an awesome atmosphere.
Might as well mention here that Noil and Seals-Jones are and have been absolutely fucking useless this and last season. IMO they are big names that are either injured, and if not injured, do nothing during games... hype but nothing to show for it.
I get what you are saying, and you won't hear an argument from me about Noil. Two seasons ago, he was the man because he wanted the ball more than anyone else. That's why he was so dynamic. He was suspended from the last bowl game and the season opener for testing positive for pot. He hasn't had the same aggressiveness he had his first year.
Now for Ricky Seals-Jones, I hear you. He doesn't have the stats or points that Christian Kirk or Josh Reynolds has, and he is prone to dropping passes. However, he is a huge part of our offense. His biggest influence is in run blocking. Our zone option read runs way better with him at H-back, and he is our best blocking receiver. You could tell in the South Carolina and Tennessee games that he wasn't in the game (injury). On top of that, he is a huge, dominate receiver that requires a strong secondary person to cover him. When you have a guy like at him as your #3, that's a good problem to have.
I'm willing to bet Ricky does well in the NFL. He won't be a Reynolds, Evans, or even Fuller (who did flop in NFL), but I think he will make a good TE, slot, or H-back. Speedy has the chance to make it in the NFL, but he needs to get back to his old ways to do it. His giving 0 fucks in college isn't doing him (or us) any good.
I wasn't going to bother capturing screen shots to show this, but I noticed an article stemming from this hit alone with the replays embedded.
Originally Posted by imj0257
I thought both targeting reviewed penalties should have been enforced.
They absolutely should have BOTH been called. The fact that the 'Bama one wasn't just goes to show the lengths some conferences will go to protect their best teams.
Originally Posted by NCAA Targeting Rule
No player shall target and make forcible contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul.
No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent (See Note 2 below) with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul (Rules 2-27-14 and 9-6). (A.R. 9-1-4-I-VI)
Note 1: "Targeting" means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to:
Launch—a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area
A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground
Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet
The SEC officials didn't call either hit a foul on the field. Both were reviewed on replay. The explanation given for the 'Bama hit? The player wasn't defenseless. They COMPLETELY IGNORED the first and foremost part of the rule. Now, this didn't really change the outcome of the game, but it damn near killed one of our players. He literally had a tooth knocked out which may have been what went flying from his helmet during the hit.
Lowered head, initiating with crown of helmet? Check. Leading helmet to attack head? Check. Launching? Real damn close. That covers 2.5/4 indications that it was targeting. But the player was not defenseless. Oh, yeah. You're in Tuscaloosa. Now the video is being used as motivation for Alabama in-breds.
I had actually forgotten about the end of that game until we were talking about referee cals at work yesterday. Someone pointed out the holding call to push Wisconsin back and miss the FG was something that happens every down but is never called. ...until your playing to beat OSU.
I had actually forgotten about the end of that game until we were talking about referee cals at work yesterday. Someone pointed out the holding call to push Wisconsin back and miss the FG was something that happens every down but is never called. ...until your playing to beat OSU.
Yes, It's all a conspiracy. I do kinda wish it was Wisconsin instead of PS though. No one even talking about how Clemson got away with one last week against un-ranked team, and look where they stand, lol A win is a win though I guess...
Not a lot of ACC support here. Seems to be all SEC, Big 10, and PAC 12 with the occasional at the Big XII from Aggies. I didn't see the Clemson game, and honestly, I didn't remember the Wisconsin hold as that significant at the time. I do believe there is inherent bias from the referees toward the top ranked programs though. The shit Texas used to get away with and the shit Alabama gets away with is just egregious. I don't watch enough other schools to notice if it happens often there too.
I hear ya, it certainly seems like there is a bias but I'm not sure it's intentional. I think if I were in the ref's shoes I wouldn't want to be the guy that made the F'd up call that made a top ranked team lose.
#3 Clemson - I happened to catch the last 2 minutes of the game last week and I thought it was over for them. 4th qtr tied @ 17 - 2 seconds left in the game. NC State had an easy field goal center of field... Luck
I was thinking a bit about this comment. I'm not going all tin-foil hat that the conference and its officials actually conspire to help the best team. There are two possible avenues I can think of that could cause a bias. The first is that there is a collective interest within a conference to produce a playoff team. It may not come down to actual conspiring, but there could be a general awareness that everyone benefits (even the losers in a sense) if one team runs the table. The second method is just plain fan bias within the officiating staff. These guys are just people like you and I who have their favorite teams and need a job that pays. At some point you will end up with referees who can try to be as objective as possible, but naturally they will be assigned to a team they enjoy seeing win. That was all. There seems to be too many instances of perceived bias to rule it out in my mind.
I certainly didn't see the collective interest within the Big10 during the OSU-PennState game, horse collar anyone? Clearly OSU is the better team in the conference (although they didn't play like a great team). Fan bias maybe, where do these refs come from/live? If they are local certainly they are supposed to be neutral, but I agree they are human and subconsciously make decisions that favor their team.
You're damn right you did. Maybe you should make sure your players are awake before they step on the field next time you play 11:00 on the road. That was awful all around.
I was really pissed Saturday night. Between foregoing a possession to end the half, not being able to run the ball, 3 and outs, and going for a PAT when we're up by one, I felt everything fell on Sumlin's shoulders. After thinking about it some more though, Shea Patterson deserves a lot of credit. That kid made some miraculous plays in the same manner that Johnny did. We could've coached better and played better, but without a 5-star second half performance from that kid, we would've won easily.
New Year's 6-bowl is all but gone. If we would've won with all the other loses, we would be right in there for a playoff debate too.
I understand your frustration, but I have to ask, is that really what's best for TAMU football? Who is going to be a better head coach? Who is going to recruit better? He has brought in a TON of talent on offense. If you fire him, Mazzone and Chavis are probably gonna go with him, and there is no way losing Chavis can help us. This season has been a massive dissapointment, and I have been all for firing bad TAMU coaches, but I don't see how firing Sumlin helps us.
My co-worker was at the game on the 45 yard line. He said the Ole Miss secondary was majorly out-matched by our receivers, and everyone in the stands couldn't figure out why they kept running into a wall. He said it was the first time he has felt Sumlin needs to go, but I question how much of that decision to keep trying the run was Mazzone.
Can't believe Penn State has made it to the Big Ten championship game. I would have never even thought it possible at the beginning of the season. Got tickets with my brother and heading to the game. Need to keep rolling and beat Wisc now.
It will be interesting to see if the committee will take both the big ten champ and Ohio St. into the playoff. I can't see them pushing out current #2 Ohio St with just one road loss against a quality opponent and wins over Oklahoma, Nebraska, Wisconsin and Michigan. If Washington and Clemson both win their championships, it will get interesting for sure. If either or both of those two lose, I think we will have two big ten teams in the playoffs.
I get the arguement for Ohio State being that their only loss is against a quality opponent and they have good wins. It will bring up the issue though if they get in and the Big Ten winner doesn't as to what is the point of a conference championship then.
I bet they take Washington. This year completely underlines the need for an 8 team playoff. I have only ever heard of one 4 team playoff in a sport with more than 6 competitors. I read some BS article last week about how we don't need 8 because the last 2-3 games of the season are effectively "playoff games", but I couldn't disagree more this week. Even Oklahoma should be playing for a championship.
I found out last night that I really need 2 TV's, I was flipping back and forth between Clemson/VATech and Penn State/Wisconsin like a Boss near the end. VA Tech really put up a great fight. Penn State wow what a comeback that second half! Impressive.. If they would have played like that the whole game I could see getting in even with their almost 40pt loss to Mich. But it seems like 2 loss teams are a no go. Awesome year for the Big10. Go Bucks!
8 team playoff would be nice to see, I agree especially this year.
I bet they take Washington. This year completely underlines the need for an 8 team playoff. I have only ever heard of one 4 team playoff in a sport with more than 6 competitors. I read some BS article last week about how we don't need 8 because the last 2-3 games of the season are effectively "playoff games", but I couldn't disagree more this week. Even Oklahoma should be playing for a championship.
The playoff was not designed to make sure the team that could put together 1 or 2 or 3 wins late in the season was the national champ. It was put in place to get rid of disputed national champ questions because you could have multiple teams that could legitimately claim the title. Only one team really can make that claim this year and they are in the playoff. One of the other three could beat them in the playoff, but no one else can really make the claim this year they are #1 going into the playoffs. If anything Alabama should be complaining that they should go back to the old system.
I think changing things so you wind up with something like the NHL or NBA where close to 50% of the teams make that playoffs is nuts. It should be hard to make the playoffs. The only reason the pro-leagues do it is so they can make more money. If OK or Penn St. wanted in, they shouldn't have lost two games. The best team in the country doesn't lose two games during the season.
I'd still like to see 8. Remembering last year MSU beat Ohio State in some crappy weather game by a last minute field goal. Their only loss for the season. Should MSU have been in the top 4? Sure, but how can you leave out a 1 loss team(especially with Zeke and Bosa) from getting their shot. All those NFL draft picks... argh
I think an 8 team or even 6 teams the way they do it in the NFL would be great. With 6 two teams with the absolute highest rankings get a bye the first round. I have thought this even before Penn State had any chance in it this year. I
With the selections I really don't feel Washington was warranted to make it over Penn State with how bad their OOC schedule was. Scheduling one FCS game is bad enough but really scheduling two of them in a single season is crazy. Apparently 9 wins in a row in the hardest conference in college football this year means nothing. Penn States ranked wins are also against much more highly ranked teams than Washingtons were. I don't have the numbers to use the rankings from week to week but at the end of the season the only ranked oppenants Washington beat are 10 Colorado, 18 Stanford, and 19 Utah. They lost to 9 USC. Penn Sate beat 3 Ohio St, 8 Wisconsin, and 24 Temple, and lost to 6 Michigan and 23 Pitt. So the only loses are to ranked teams one of which was in the top 10 and we had two top 10 victories. The conference champion thing is a wash in this conversation. Had Penn State gone out and schedule puff games for their early season they could only have 1 loss too.
Doesn't really matter though cause no one is beating Bama this year. From what I have watched of them this year I think this team is their best in the last 10 years maybe even more.
10-17-2016, 12:09 PM
Louisville loses to #2 Clemson; 5th. OSU loses to nobody PSU; 6th. TAMU leads Bama for 6 minutes in the second half, loses to #1, why not 9th place. Makes sense. 
at the Big XII from Aggies. I didn't see the Clemson game, and honestly, I didn't remember the Wisconsin hold as that significant at the time. I do believe there is inherent bias from the referees toward the top ranked programs though. The shit Texas used to get away with and the shit Alabama gets away with is just egregious. I don't watch enough other schools to notice if it happens often there too. 
season, especially if Knight is out for the season. And Garrett looks 50%. Not good at all.
Hey Penn State, can we have your QB? Please?