Yumcha

Yes and according to ESPN, he's started to rehab already.

Doom878

WTF happened in that Rockets/Cavs game last night. Harden and James get tangled, no foul call, Harden takes like 4 steps, NO WHISTLE!

cM3go

Jimmy Butler Hyperextends Elbow

Jimmy gets an MRI today, I will cry if he's out of the game for a while too. Every loss is starting to hurt more and more.

Yumcha

Butler out 3-6 weeks. Bulls are going to barely make it into the playoffs. No Rose, no Butler, and no Taj? Holy crap.

Doom878

All planned since Thibs always gets shit for burning out players in the regular season

2012wagon

Will Thibs get fired this year?

ANybody see Kobe's documentary on HBO?

2012wagon

King vs the New King

No rules in the Jungle.

This ain't no Rafiki and Mufasa world. This is the NBA

Doom878

Great post!

Yumcha

oonowindoo

Is it because i never noticed or there are a LOT more injuries in recent years than in the 2000s.

Doom878

Lack of steroids to recover

2012wagon

Well plenty of German doctor steroids....

But there are def more injuries. Players don't take any time off. Playing in summer league...outside.

All about the Benjamins...

Doom878

The international play definitely doesn't help for the few that participate. Summer league though is only for young players.

2012wagon

^
Right

But when I was a kid, players would get fat in summer and use training camp to get back in shape.

These days players are in shape year round. It isn't a Sept-June sport anymore.

So I htink there is much more physicial pressure on players.

As someone who is in medicine, I can tell you, we deal with cutting edge techonology (NICU). A kid that didn't survive 15 years ago, today survives in our care.


So to see medicine advance, YET players have more injuries....doesn't really add up.

They are lot harder on their bodies today than Magic, Bird, and Isiah was back in the day

Doom878

I don't think offseason conditioning is the same as hard pickup games in the summer. From what I've read and seen, players lean more towards conditioning training and drills as well as weight lifting all while supervised by team trainers and physicians. Not sure if this conditioning in the offseason is causing more injuries. The team staff is definitely aware of the need for recovery. If anything being stronger and more athletic with more running/jumping explosion could wear on the knees. Ask Wade and Rose. Major injuries were fairly common in the old days too. Bernard King, Danny Manning, Fat Lever, Brad Daughtery, Bob McAdoo, Bird were some after a search. I think with the Sportscenter coverage and internet injuries are shoved down our throats a little harder.

2012wagon

^
Could be true. Though Gary Viti is popular here in LA, I don't subcribe to the theory that trainers on teams have the best interst of the players at heart.

Doom878

You're right. They don't have the best interest long term. They definitely want them performing into their mid/late 30's. After that Good Luck! Look at the NFL players.

LA Times

Doom878

Yumcha

@ Bulls...

dom

Wow have Raptors ever collapsed the last couple of months. Oh well.

asianspec

iTrader: (1)

Sweet, we beat the cavs.

Doom878

And the Blazers last night. We need to sneak in. Still close.

Doom878

Anyone see the Christian Laettner 30 for 30? I saw the first hour but missed the end. Pretty cool seeing those old Duke teams everyone hated. Never knew him and Hurley were middle class dudes while everyone thought they were rich boys. Apparently the only one on that team that had family money was Grant Hill.

asianspec

iTrader: (1)

I wanted to see it but never had the chance to check it out

Doom878

Nothing out of this world. Something that was on

imj0257

iTrader: (1)

Saw this and had to post it

Yumcha

Doom878

dom

The Raptors remembered they're a Toronto team and decided to start playing like one.

Yumcha

Boy, did the Extinct ever choke in the 4th.

dom

12-22 since Jan 1 and 0-10 in there last 10 vs teams that are over 500. Right off a cliff. So familiar.

asianspec

iTrader: (1)

Although I always thought kyle Lowry would be a great player. It was a matter of time before he got injured

Yumcha

Niko of the Bulls is going to be something if he keeps improving. Not saying he's the next Dirk but man, he sure reminds me of Dirk sometimes...

asianspec

iTrader: (1)

yes, when given minutes

DaChef320

iTrader: (1)

Warriors clinch 1st seed for the west!!!

svtmike

#Dumbnation?

asianspec

iTrader: (1)

Kyle Korner is so underrated

Doom878

Jesus the dunks by Wiggins on Gobert though Gobert had a nice stuff too.

asianspec

iTrader: (1)

Wiggins is making a case to be a keeper for next year. I got too many of those

Doom878

He's been nuts. If Love bails to LA, then damn Cleveland may have fucked up