bgsm1th

I thought only honky's and Hispanics used roids?

EL19

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Lebron and Shaq arent of the same stature. I understand it was just a comparison but Shaq is a fat massive dude. Its not like you see him playing any other sports or weightlifting or running, but Lebron is as good in football as he is in basketball he just chose to go the basketball route and he works out all of the time. Its not like he is missing a neck or something like that. I dont think he is on roids, Id be more inclined to believe he was on some type of performance enhancing drug.

dom

Who knows. But don't forget Lebron came out of high school. He was a boy when he entered the league. So its pretty normal for him to look much different since he's now grown into his body.

His athleticism is unbelievable.

wasupdog

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l's tl...yea i guess i didn't mean roids in particular, but some sort of illegal ped. it seems unnatural to get that big and jacked just taking something like whey protein although genetics are a key factor. i'm of the camp that says that modern day athletes will be superior to former decades because of advances in training and nutrition but this is just ridiculous.

this might be a really stupid point but in the back of my mind those news stories from years ago pop into my head that go something like...kids were getting bigger and more mature earlier due to eating chickens or other animals that were injected with growth hormones.

seems like nba players arguably would't need the full advantage of peds like cyclists and baseball players. one other guy that looks unnaturally jacked is corey maggette

JediMindTricks

well, at this point, i guess nothing would surprise me.

but lebron came out of high school already beastly and was a monster, even then, at 240lbs.

with L's TL post.

i wouldn't be surprised if he's on some kind of performance enhancing drugs, but i would say that to anyone (except maybe kevin durant.. )

and like dom said, lebron came out of high school, and it's natural for his body to fill out. maybe not as big as it is now, but look at guys like jordan, pippen, kobe...all swingmen like lebron. they all filled out and muscled up over the years from workouts and possibly supplements. who knows.

(maggette...i've wondered about him. dude look unnatural sometimes.)

and shaq's just different. dude got lazy and injured towards the second half of his career, which led him to put on fat weight.

Bdog

I think he just has great genetics. Tiger Woods started his career and has gained 30 lbs of lean muscle. LeBron's been in the NBA since 2003 and has gained 30 lbs of lean muscle over 6 years. I believe these athletes also have the best supplements and diets out there. He's not going to be doing a deck/test stack, because that would kill his endurance. I've heard the best endurance roid out is Winstrol, but it has issues and Erythropoietin is pure endurance with no muscle gains. LeBron has the total package of endurance and muscle growth.

It's apples to oranges, but Jay Cutler (Mr. Universe) competes at the same weight as LeBron is around 265 lbs. LeBrons's 6'7 and started out of HS looking skinny at 240 lbs. He's just a very solid guy with great genetics.

JediMindTricks

^i'm inclined to agree.

waTSX

You know, just because someone is muscular and has a powerful physique does not mean they are on PED's. There are muscular people in the world, and there always has been.

Besides, Lebron is a class act and has his head on straight. He knows he is the face of the NBA and he wouldn't jeopardize that by juicing. Given today's training methods combined with the good genetics he clearly has, I would say an emphatic to Lebron using PED's. He's just a freak, that's all.

JediMindTricks

that's for sure.

there are guys in the league at his size and weight that are power forwards.

his athleticism, quickness, strength, explosiveness.....scary.

waTSX

Some of his moves make other NBA players look like high schoolers sometimes. Incredibly explosive and a ton of fun to watch. I really hope the Cavs go all the way this year. It'd be good for the league and for Cleveland.

Silver_Surfer

A cheap ass smug ball player who won't pay his housekeeper wages? How shameful! How low!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...8D04.DTL&tsp=1

tiredandhungry67

$326 a week?
that's lower than pocket change for him
still, she might be a garbage ass cleaner, don't assume until we know all the facts

CarbonGray Earl

Who cares. What a weird post.

luismorales

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Hater!!

Yumcha

Given the "culture" now to win at all costs and to deliver...also the need to score those big-time contracts...and the pressures that come with them...

I wouldn't be shocked. It's sad now that you just don't know anymore.

Silver_Surfer

LOL. Did your boss ever withheld your paycheck?

TLyoung'un

I love how lakers haters always resort to calling kobe a rapist

AznX TL

since when did you have to pay your ex house keepers unemployment?

Osamu

i think I heard about this a few months ago when it first came up. I think she was more claiming that his wife would yell at her and humiliate her. I guess somehow she is saying that forced her to quit and they owe her unemployment?

I don't think it has anything to do w/ them not paying her. Sounds like like another case of trying to get as much as they can out of a high profile wealthy person. And if it were true, I really don't think it has much to do w/ kobe.

CUNextTuesday

The title make you a hater, not the stupid thread.

Silver_Surfer

Yeah so what? Kobe is not a likable person.

waTSX

I guess that depends who you are.

Silver_Surfer

I guess.

F-C

Jonesi

No idea.. Here's a pic on draft day.. Doesn't look roided.. Looks like average high school kid..

JediMindTricks

paz840

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the suit is mostly about Kobe's wife being a psycho bitch, which is a well-known fact