MMA: UFC News and Discussion Thread
06-01-2010, 01:36 PM
#322
Suzuka Master
Rampage should have gone in for the kill instead of letting Rashad recover. IDK why he was just standing there for 30 seconds instead of going for some knees or taking him to the ground.
06-01-2010, 01:51 PM
#324
I drive a Subata.
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rashad was definitely wobbling.. i still don't know why he wasn't going in to finish it.. he had a chance..
06-01-2010, 01:58 PM
#325
I'm Down Right Fierce!
Kinda late, but yeah I was super disappointed with Rampage. Rashad executed his game plan of pinning Rampage against the cage very well and to me Rampage seemed very timid after that early hook from Rashad in the first.
In the third, Rampage was just too gassed to take advantage of nearly knocking out Rashad.
I read that Rampage was 250 lbs going into training camp for that fight. Jesus, he had to cut 45 lb!
I know he said that his weight wasn't a factor, but I call bs.
Losing that much weight so quickly wears you out and chances are he spent most of his time running/cycling/dieting just to make weight.
And it was apparent that his training wasn't as successful as it could have been - Rampage was no wear near as agile as before and had terrible stamina.
In the third, Rampage was just too gassed to take advantage of nearly knocking out Rashad.
I read that Rampage was 250 lbs going into training camp for that fight. Jesus, he had to cut 45 lb!
I know he said that his weight wasn't a factor, but I call bs. Losing that much weight so quickly wears you out and chances are he spent most of his time running/cycling/dieting just to make weight.
And it was apparent that his training wasn't as successful as it could have been - Rampage was no wear near as agile as before and had terrible stamina.
06-01-2010, 02:08 PM
#326
Kinda late, but yeah I was super disappointed with Rampage. Rashad executed his game plan of pinning Rampage against the cage very well and to me Rampage seemed very timid after that early hook from Rashad in the first.
In the third, Rampage was just too gassed to take advantage of nearly knocking out Rashad.
I read that Rampage was 250 lbs going into training camp for that fight. Jesus, he had to cut 45 lb! I know he said that his weight wasn't a factor, but I call bs.
Losing that much weight so quickly wears you out and chances are he spent most of his time running/cycling/dieting just to make weight.
And it was apparent that his training wasn't as successful as it could have been - Rampage was no wear near as agile as before and had terrible stamina.
In the third, Rampage was just too gassed to take advantage of nearly knocking out Rashad.
I read that Rampage was 250 lbs going into training camp for that fight. Jesus, he had to cut 45 lb!
I know he said that his weight wasn't a factor, but I call bs. Losing that much weight so quickly wears you out and chances are he spent most of his time running/cycling/dieting just to make weight.
And it was apparent that his training wasn't as successful as it could have been - Rampage was no wear near as agile as before and had terrible stamina.
06-01-2010, 03:18 PM
#327
Suzuka Master
Duffee was gassed because he was teeing off on Russow at will. It reminded me of those old Pride heavyweight fights where the opponents would just go fist-to-cuffs back and forth. Jeebus he looks like he's on mad roids. KO by Russow was the bomb, lights out.
06-01-2010, 03:22 PM
#328
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Kinda late, but yeah I was super disappointed with Rampage. Rashad executed his game plan of pinning Rampage against the cage very well and to me Rampage seemed very timid after that early hook from Rashad in the first.
In the third, Rampage was just too gassed to take advantage of nearly knocking out Rashad.
I read that Rampage was 250 lbs going into training camp for that fight. Jesus, he had to cut 45 lb! I know he said that his weight wasn't a factor, but I call bs.
Losing that much weight so quickly wears you out and chances are he spent most of his time running/cycling/dieting just to make weight.
And it was apparent that his training wasn't as successful as it could have been - Rampage was no wear near as agile as before and had terrible stamina.
In the third, Rampage was just too gassed to take advantage of nearly knocking out Rashad.
I read that Rampage was 250 lbs going into training camp for that fight. Jesus, he had to cut 45 lb!
I know he said that his weight wasn't a factor, but I call bs. Losing that much weight so quickly wears you out and chances are he spent most of his time running/cycling/dieting just to make weight.
And it was apparent that his training wasn't as successful as it could have been - Rampage was no wear near as agile as before and had terrible stamina.
when he lays a kick into Sapps side and he folds.
06-01-2010, 03:33 PM
#330
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Bob Sapp.. what a big baby.. 
06-01-2010, 05:12 PM
#331
Suzuka Master
LOL I remember that fight. Crocrop was the man back in the Pride days. I <3 Machida but it's still nice to see Shogun deliver in the UFC. Is it just me or have a lot of ex-Pride fighters not done as well after coming over to the UFC like Gono? I think a lot of them are just older now, or had their "knockout buttons" pushed a few too many times like Wanderlai.
06-01-2010, 06:36 PM
#332
I drive a Subata.
iTrader: (1)
Crocrop was, and still is, my favorite MMA fighter, period.
06-01-2010, 06:38 PM
#333
LOL I remember that fight. Crocrop was the man back in the Pride days. I <3 Machida but it's still nice to see Shogun deliver in the UFC. Is it just me or have a lot of ex-Pride fighters not done as well after coming over to the UFC like Gono? I think a lot of them are just older now, or had their "knockout buttons" pushed a few too many times like Wanderlai.
06-02-2010, 07:46 AM
#334
Team Owner
Kinda late, but yeah I was super disappointed with Rampage. Rashad executed his game plan of pinning Rampage against the cage very well and to me Rampage seemed very timid after that early hook from Rashad in the first.
In the third, Rampage was just too gassed to take advantage of nearly knocking out Rashad.
I read that Rampage was 250 lbs going into training camp for that fight. Jesus, he had to cut 45 lb! I know he said that his weight wasn't a factor, but I call bs.
Losing that much weight so quickly wears you out and chances are he spent most of his time running/cycling/dieting just to make weight.
And it was apparent that his training wasn't as successful as it could have been - Rampage was no wear near as agile as before and had terrible stamina.
In the third, Rampage was just too gassed to take advantage of nearly knocking out Rashad.
I read that Rampage was 250 lbs going into training camp for that fight. Jesus, he had to cut 45 lb!
I know he said that his weight wasn't a factor, but I call bs. Losing that much weight so quickly wears you out and chances are he spent most of his time running/cycling/dieting just to make weight.
And it was apparent that his training wasn't as successful as it could have been - Rampage was no wear near as agile as before and had terrible stamina.
LOL I remember that fight. Crocrop was the man back in the Pride days. I <3 Machida but it's still nice to see Shogun deliver in the UFC. Is it just me or have a lot of ex-Pride fighters not done as well after coming over to the UFC like Gono? I think a lot of them are just older now, or had their "knockout buttons" pushed a few too many times like Wanderlai.
I think this is part of it. I remember Chuck getting beaten by Rampage and I think he was about in his prime.
06-02-2010, 09:20 AM
#335
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
So.. any bets on Rampage's post loss run in with authority?
06-15-2010, 03:47 PM
#337
I'm Down Right Fierce!
Guess no one else saw UFC 115 over the weekend.
Anyhow
Chuck Liddell. Gotta give the 40 year old credit - he went out swinging till the end.
Anyhow
Chuck Liddell. Gotta give the 40 year old credit - he went out swinging till the end.
06-15-2010, 03:50 PM
#338
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
I doubt anyone expected Liddell to win that match. Anyone watching the Stikeforce match tomorrow? Should be decent.
06-15-2010, 03:56 PM
#339
Stand For Something
I watched it. And I give Liddell no credit... Don't get me wrong, I like him, I think he's a good person and was a good fighter. But, he should have never came back to the Octagon, it was beyond dumb of him considering the fights he had before his time off and just his overall condition. Especially his first fight back being against Rich Franklin. As soon as Franklin was announced to step in I knew there was no way on God's beautiful green earth Liddell was going to win.
06-15-2010, 04:12 PM
#341
I'm Down Right Fierce!
I agree Rick. That counter from Franklin didn't seem like it would do all that much damage - just a solid straight connect to the jaw of Liddell, which Liddell would've been able to shake off in his younger days.
Its blatantly apparent now that Chuck has a glass jaw.
Its blatantly apparent now that Chuck has a glass jaw.
06-26-2010, 03:16 PM
#342
Safety Car
Fedor vs. Werdum tonight! Not quite the match-up I wanted to see, but it's still Fedor. I hope he makes quick work of this guy so we can see Fedor vs. Overeem before the end of the year.
06-27-2010, 01:03 AM
#344
Moderator
It doesn't really change my view towards him though. I think MMA is sort of "luck." There are guys that can get badly beaten throughout the round and in the end pull of some miraculous move and win ie Silva vs Chonan.
Fedor has proven so many times that he is a skilled fighter. This lost doesn't mean anything to me.
But damn, Cung Le and his kicks. Is he Chung Li's brother?
Fedor has proven so many times that he is a skilled fighter. This lost doesn't mean anything to me.
But damn, Cung Le and his kicks. Is he Chung Li's brother?
Last edited by mdkxtreme; 06-27-2010 at 01:08 AM.
06-27-2010, 01:30 AM
#345
Safety Car
I agree, somewhat. I think if Fedor were to fight Werdum 10 times, he'd easily win 7 or 8 out of the 10. But any fighter has a "puncher's chance." Or in this case, a BJJ chance.
I think this loss will have huge repercussions on Fedor's future. He's been talking about retirement. I wouldn't be surprised if it comes sooner rather than later. He won't get the shot against Overeem now. Who else is left in Strikeforce for him to fight? Bigfoot Silva is the only person left that he hasn't already beaten. And I doubt many people would be clamoring to see that fight. I don't think he'll sign with the UFC now, especially given Dana's attitude towards him and M-1 Global. Dana's reaction to tonight's fight:
I hope he continues to fight, and if so I'll continue to watch. But with the way things turned out tonight, I'm not so sure he's going to stick around.
I think this loss will have huge repercussions on Fedor's future. He's been talking about retirement. I wouldn't be surprised if it comes sooner rather than later. He won't get the shot against Overeem now. Who else is left in Strikeforce for him to fight? Bigfoot Silva is the only person left that he hasn't already beaten. And I doubt many people would be clamoring to see that fight. I don't think he'll sign with the UFC now, especially given Dana's attitude towards him and M-1 Global. Dana's reaction to tonight's fight:
I hope he continues to fight, and if so I'll continue to watch. But with the way things turned out tonight, I'm not so sure he's going to stick around.
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06-27-2010, 01:48 AM
#346
Moderator
^ I highly doubt that this loss will bring down Fedor's confidence in himself. I think Fedor's been in this game for too long and been in enough fights to know not to think lower of himself after just one loss.
06-27-2010, 09:06 AM
#347
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
It doesn't really change my view towards him though. I think MMA is sort of "luck." There are guys that can get badly beaten throughout the round and in the end pull of some miraculous move and win ie Silva vs Chonan.
Fedor has proven so many times that he is a skilled fighter. This lost doesn't mean anything to me.
But damn, Cung Le and his kicks. Is he Chung Li's brother?
Fedor has proven so many times that he is a skilled fighter. This lost doesn't mean anything to me.
But damn, Cung Le and his kicks. Is he Chung Li's brother?
Fedor underestimated Werdum and lost. There was no luck in the outcome of that match.
I think Werdum dissing Overeem was very unprofessional. He needs to get off Fedor's dick. It will be interesting who Strikeforce sets up as Fedor's last fight.
Cung Le is a bad ass kickboxer. I've seen him knockout dudes with axe kicks, spinning heel kicks as well as punch them out.. anyone who stand with him in the ring is just asking for punishment. To win against Cung Le, they need to put him on the mat.
I agree, somewhat. I think if Fedor were to fight Werdum 10 times, he'd easily win 7 or 8 out of the 10. But any fighter has a "puncher's chance." Or in this case, a BJJ chance.
I think this loss will have huge repercussions on Fedor's future. He's been talking about retirement. I wouldn't be surprised if it comes sooner rather than later. He won't get the shot against Overeem now. Who else is left in Strikeforce for him to fight? Bigfoot Silva is the only person left that he hasn't already beaten. And I doubt many people would be clamoring to see that fight. I don't think he'll sign with the UFC now, especially given Dana's attitude towards him and M-1 Global. Dana's reaction to tonight's fight:
I hope he continues to fight, and if so I'll continue to watch. But with the way things turned out tonight, I'm not so sure he's going to stick around.
I think this loss will have huge repercussions on Fedor's future. He's been talking about retirement. I wouldn't be surprised if it comes sooner rather than later. He won't get the shot against Overeem now. Who else is left in Strikeforce for him to fight? Bigfoot Silva is the only person left that he hasn't already beaten. And I doubt many people would be clamoring to see that fight. I don't think he'll sign with the UFC now, especially given Dana's attitude towards him and M-1 Global. Dana's reaction to tonight's fight:
I hope he continues to fight, and if so I'll continue to watch. But with the way things turned out tonight, I'm not so sure he's going to stick around.
Dana White is a tool.Damn.. what do you guys think about Cyborg's match.. lol. I love watching her beat the shit out of her opponents. They need to match her with the guys at this rate.
06-29-2010, 06:11 PM
#350
I drive a Subata.
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should be fun to watch.
i hope lesnar doesnt just tie up and take down carwin to lay all his weight on him and just punch.
06-29-2010, 07:52 PM
#353
I drive a Subata.
iTrader: (1)
^ Lesnar's going to do just that, I think.
06-29-2010, 10:08 PM
#354
Stand For Something
Carwin and his camp are well aware that Brock's gameplan is probably going to be just that: tie up and/or take down. So Carwin is going to look to time a take-down attempt and throw an uppercut or low hook at it. And after the Mir fight, I kinda doubt Lesnar is going to want to get in the clinch with him.
Idk when it will happen - may be quick, may take 4 or 5 rounds - but I guarantee Lesnar gets dropped.
06-29-2010, 10:35 PM
#355
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
I'll be hibernating until UFC 117
06-29-2010, 11:09 PM
#356
Safety Car
But I agree with everybody else. I don't think Lesnar is going to want to stand and bang with Carwin, given his recent string of KO victories. The only other option is to try and take him down. Whether he's successful, we'll find out on Saturday.
