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MLB and Steroids: Still a big follower of the sport?
02-16-2005, 11:40 AM
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MLB and Steroids: Still a big follower of the sport?
So, even with all this garbage about how players right to the pitchers are on the juice, will you still follow the game?
I do love the Cubs...But, I have to say I've lots a tonne of respect for MLB.
I do love the Cubs...But, I have to say I've lots a tonne of respect for MLB.
02-16-2005, 11:42 AM
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And no, I'm not trying to pick up where Jerky left off...I'm really curious. 
02-16-2005, 11:43 AM
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a little long, but good article... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...nds/index.html
02-16-2005, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ccannizz11
a little long, but good article... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...nds/index.html
I don't think Selig and his henchmen have the guts to do what's right though.
And if Bonds does break the record which I think is a given, there needs to be an asterisk next to his name...
02-16-2005, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by phipark
good question, but I'll still follow it.
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02-16-2005, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
You do know that the Cards are going down to the Cubs this season, right?
I hope that Mark Grudzdfjsoeurfdkl doesn't bring that Cubby losing with him.
02-16-2005, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by phipark
now that's funny
I hope that Mark Grudzdfjsoeurfdkl doesn't bring that Cubby losing with him.
I hope that Mark Grudzdfjsoeurfdkl doesn't bring that Cubby losing with him.
Cards are going down! Bish!
02-16-2005, 12:25 PM
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I am very curious just how many HRs Bonds et al. can hit this season...
Although, one question, if you are off the juice for say an off-season despite being on it for the last 5 years, will your body's strength and muscles still lose its strength? So, will Bonds still be able to blast the ball 5000+ feet?
Although, one question, if you are off the juice for say an off-season despite being on it for the last 5 years, will your body's strength and muscles still lose its strength? So, will Bonds still be able to blast the ball 5000+ feet?
02-16-2005, 12:31 PM
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I love baseball. Always have, always will. I was at Spring Training in 1995 when it was delayed because of the strike.
Steriods have tainted the sport (I hate cheaters), and the Homerun Era will now be known as the Steriod Era. It's a shame, but baseball will over come this just like it has overcome other issues in the past (spit balls, corked bats, black sox, etc.).
Steriods have tainted the sport (I hate cheaters), and the Homerun Era will now be known as the Steriod Era. It's a shame, but baseball will over come this just like it has overcome other issues in the past (spit balls, corked bats, black sox, etc.).
02-16-2005, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
I love baseball. Always have, always will. I was at Spring Training in 1995 when it was delayed because of the strike.
Steriods have tainted the sport (I hate cheaters), and the Homerun Era will now be known as the Steriod Era. It's a shame, but baseball will over come this just like it has in the past (spit balls, corked bats, etc.).
Steriods have tainted the sport (I hate cheaters), and the Homerun Era will now be known as the Steriod Era. It's a shame, but baseball will over come this just like it has in the past (spit balls, corked bats, etc.).
02-16-2005, 12:34 PM
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Doesn't bother me, steroids have been around sports forever. Even though they test in other sports a ton still do it.
Guys are still great athletes
I think if anything has tainted the sport it's the obnoxious attitude of the players. They are all money hungry drones IMO. What happened to the days when players stuck to a team. Kids these days can't have a favorite team anymore because their favorite players keep leaving. Hell Frank Thomas is probably the only big name player currently that's stuck w/ the same team his whole career.
Guys are still great athletes
I think if anything has tainted the sport it's the obnoxious attitude of the players. They are all money hungry drones IMO. What happened to the days when players stuck to a team. Kids these days can't have a favorite team anymore because their favorite players keep leaving. Hell Frank Thomas is probably the only big name player currently that's stuck w/ the same team his whole career.
02-16-2005, 12:34 PM
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I never really cared for baseball... but when they start cracking down the NFL for steroids... I'll still be a fan.
02-16-2005, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CLpower
I think if anything has tainted the sport it's the obnoxious attitude of the players. They are all money hungry drones IMO. What happened to the days when players stuck to a team. Kids these days can't have a favorite team anymore because their favorite players keep leaving. Hell Frank Thomas is probably the only big name player currently that's stuck w/ the same team his whole career.
02-16-2005, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CLpower
I think if anything has tainted the sport it's the obnoxious attitude of the players. They are all money hungry drones IMO. What happened to the days when players stuck to a team. Kids these days can't have a favorite team anymore because their favorite players keep leaving. Hell Frank Thomas is probably the only big name player currently that's stuck w/ the same team his whole career.
02-16-2005, 12:45 PM
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Only good thing about baseball is going out to the ballpark and downing a few beers with friends...
And maybe the playoffs...
That's it.
Junkster, who thinks it's just a sport to take up time in the summer
And maybe the playoffs...
That's it.
Junkster, who thinks it's just a sport to take up time in the summer
02-16-2005, 12:46 PM
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Thanks for the link!
I don't think Selig and his henchmen have the guts to do what's right though.
And if Bonds does break the record which I think is a given, there needs to be an asterisk next to his name...
I don't think Selig and his henchmen have the guts to do what's right though.
And if Bonds does break the record which I think is a given, there needs to be an asterisk next to his name...
02-16-2005, 12:54 PM
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It's not a matter of whether or not the league has the guts to do anything, it's whether or not the players' union wants to let it happen. There is no balance of power between the sides anymore.
But, what's the point of a league office for? Just to announce player suspensions and make up weird rules (i.e. winner of All-Star game gets home-field advantage)...?
02-16-2005, 12:56 PM
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I see...
But, what's the point of a league office for? Just to announce player suspensions and make up weird rules (i.e. winner of All-Star game gets home-field advantage)...?
But, what's the point of a league office for? Just to announce player suspensions and make up weird rules (i.e. winner of All-Star game gets home-field advantage)...?
02-16-2005, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Always Dirty
02-16-2005, 12:59 PM
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Greenie, just wondering but do you think Yankees are as good on paper as people say they are again this season (i.e. with Johnson and Pavano in the rotation now)...?
Last year we said that the Yanks pitching was suspect. It wasn't actually that bad tho'. I think they have filled some holes. It's hard to find problems with a 207+ million dollar team. To be fair, the Sox have to pay the luxury tax for last year as they were a little over the 127M cap (vs. the yankees 184M).
Like Theo has said, The sox are built with the idea in mind that the yanks will win 100-105 games a year. We just need to be able to compete with them head to head. The sox have shown that they can, and have beat the yanks head to head.
From 2001 to 2004, in 57 regular season games we're 29/28... [1] Too close for comfort in my honest opinion, but it's good enough for me. No need to count the ALCS series as both went to 7 games, and we know how both turned out
With the additions to the yankee rotation, and the questions in our rotation (Pedro and Lowe will be missed), it's going to be really interesting...
GO SOX !!
[1] http://www.baseball-reference.com/ga...&submit=Submit
hmmm... 4 more till 10K...
02-16-2005, 01:02 PM
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Ouch. Again, although not perfect, the NFL seems to be the perfect model then? That's the only one that I see where the Commish's office actually has some power...Correct me if I'm wrong, of course...
02-16-2005, 01:11 PM
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GO SOX!!! I think the whole Steriod thing sucks ass, but I don't thing that Canseco's bullshit "80% of all players do it" warrants hating the sport. I would say the true figure is about 10%. Bonds is a piece of shit, that I know.
02-16-2005, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Junkster
Only good thing about baseball is going out to the ballpark and downing a few beers with friends...
And maybe the playoffs...
That's it.
Junkster, who thinks it's just a sport to take up time in the summer
And maybe the playoffs...
That's it.
Junkster, who thinks it's just a sport to take up time in the summer
yea, nothing like throwing back $8 10 oz beers
02-16-2005, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Always Dirty
It's not a matter of whether or not the league has the guts to do anything, it's whether or not the players' union wants to let it happen. There is no balance of power between the sides anymore.
strongest union in the country
02-16-2005, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tmk70
GO SOX!!! I think the whole Steriod thing sucks ass, but I don't thing that Canseco's bullshit "80% of all players do it" warrants hating the sport. I would say the true figure is about 10%. Bonds is a piece of shit, that I know.
you'd be suprised. My brothers best friend plays pro ball and says A LOT of players use them. A LOT.
02-16-2005, 01:26 PM
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I'm not surprised by it all though....MLB had no real policy until the shit hit the fan. If you were a cokehead and you knew that your town's cops didn't care at all about coke sales/usage, you'd do it.
(I know I would)
(I know I would)
02-16-2005, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by CLpower
Guys are still great athletes
02-16-2005, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Black CL-S 4-Life
Athlete and baseball don't belong in the same sentence. When referring to athletes please talk about basketball or football players.
I hear ya, but try to hit a 90 mph fast ball and then come talk to me
hell go out and try to hit a 70 mph fast ball
02-16-2005, 01:36 PM
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Athlete and baseball don't belong in the same sentence. When referring to athletes please talk about basketball or football players.
02-16-2005, 01:37 PM
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I hear ya, but try to hit a 90 mph fast ball and then come talk to me
hell go out and try to hit a 70 mph fast ball
hell go out and try to hit a 70 mph fast ball
Although most MLB players are in great shape... its nowhere near NBA, NHL, NFL, soccer, etc.
02-16-2005, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Always Dirty
The NFL is much different in alot of respects, and I think the concensus is that the NFL does it better. In MLB, any talk of instituting a salary cap or anything along those lines is met with threats of another strike from the players' union.
02-16-2005, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CLpower
I hear ya, but try to hit a 90 mph fast ball and then come talk to me
hell go out and try to hit a 70 mph fast ball
hell go out and try to hit a 70 mph fast ball
02-16-2005, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BEETROOT
I think its a skill, but not really 'athleticism". Like golf.
Although most MLB players are in great shape... its nowhere near NBA, NHL, NFL, soccer, etc.
Although most MLB players are in great shape... its nowhere near NBA, NHL, NFL, soccer, etc.
agreed, till think they are athletes though IMO