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But, I suspect the hurt BoSox are going to get is still incoming. Good job, cheaters...just gotta be like your NFL team, the Pats, huh?
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Sox wanted the attention the Pats were taking so they stepped up their game
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Seriously, if Goodell wasn't in bed with the Pats, he'd sanction them like what MLB has done to the Astros for the Spygate and etc.
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Beltran out for cheating: https://sports.yahoo.com/mets-part-w...180553483.html



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Altuve is in big big big trouble
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Originally Posted by Joneill44
Altuve is in big big big trouble
Apparently, they wore buzzers?

https://larrybrownsports.com/basebal...jerseys/533588



Oh man. This is just getting "better".
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Twitter is having a field day with all of this. Old photos and videos coming out of the woodwork. People are snitching left and right. I'll try to post some of it when I can

Rumors of Mike trout on hgh too. Wild day
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Holy fawk.

Bergman too on the buzzer thing: https://www.foxnews.com/sports/astro...ng-allegations


Well again, we now know why along with the sign-stealing the Astros had such jaw-dropping hitting numbers...
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And yeah, saw across my RSS this about Trout: https://sports.yahoo.com/scott-brosi...234353980.html



Well, burn it all down. Baseball is having another reckoning.
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Pirates deal Marte to D-Backs: https://sports.yahoo.com/report-dbac...192857732.html
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Houston Asterisks hire Dusty Baker.




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Thumbs down Houston Asterisks and The Impact from Their Cheating

This is jaw-dropping and worth a read...but, man...this team should be burned.

Link: https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/a...y-houston-fan/



But, the key points are:
  • Over 1100+ bangs among more than 8200 total pitches from the 58 Asterisks' home games in 2017. Run that through your head...it was immense.
  • Staggeringly, Beltran, who I hope never has a MLB job ever again, was one of the BIGGEST recipients of this cheating system (which is why he was mentioned in the MLB report) went from .627 OPS to .744 OPS. That's over .120 higher. That's alot.
  • Amongst the biggest cheats on the Asterisks also were: George Springer (139 bangs), Marwin Gonzalez (147 bangs), and Beltran (138 bangs). Bregman had 133 and Gurriel 120. There's that "vaunted lineup". Smoking the pitching because of an unfair advantage. Want to see the effect? Gonzalez in 2016 was .264/.303/.418. Cheating starts and in was .303/.377/.530. Holy fawk. Look at the difference.
  • On Aug. 4, the Asterisks SMOKED the Blue Jays and in that game? 54 bangs. Two of the pitchers for Toronto NEVER pitches again in the MLB: Cesar Valdez and Mike Bolsinger. Do you think they have a legit beef at these disgraces for taking their jobs? I think so.
Unreal. What a disgusting squad. Houston Asterisks indeed.
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Blockbuster trade: Betts and Price traded to LA Dodgers...

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Had to get something for him before he walked
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Fucking Dodgers man
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Originally Posted by Doom878
Fucking Dodgers man
Road to the WS goes through LA in the NL...not saying they are a shoo-in because baseball is weird like that.
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And they dont cheat so they'll never win
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Cheaters gonna cheat


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I am looking forward to seeing the Asterisks being beaned in every game.

Burn them. Burn them all.
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The "apology" Houston had the other day was an insult to apologies and our intelligence.



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^ Yes to both posts

PS: I thought me agreed to never mention patriots and cheating again. They are saints compared to the Astros
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So, the Asterisks are stealing signs already...



They confiscated some fans' signs mocking their cheating ways. Good stuff, Houston.
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Severino getting Tommy John
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Nice to see Altuve et al getting the "applause" they deserve every game so far.
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Did he get hit again? I heard the one that hit his foot was an accident.
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Did he get hit again? I heard the one that hit his foot was an accident.
Unsure...not tracking it but I did see a headline that they've had 7 players HBP so far? That's a pretty high clip.
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Sale done for season: https://www.tsn.ca/boston-red-sox-ac...gery-1.1458998
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Might as well get the TJ done now
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All games possibly to be played in Arizona

https://my.xfinity.com/articles/news...-Baseball-e9bd

Boston’s Chris Sale, out for the season following Tommy John surgery, thought about the prospect of his teammates sequestered in the Phoenix area for an extended period if Major League Baseball and its players adopt an all-Arizona start to the season.

“I don’t know if I could look at my kids just through a screen for four or five months. Same thing goes with my wife,” the pitcher said Tuesday. “That’s a long time. But people have done it in harsh scenarios, I guess. I think there’s a lot of figuring out to do.”

Putting all 30 teams in the Phoenix area this season and playing in empty ballparks was among the ideas discussed Monday during a call among five top officials from MLB and the players’ association that was led by Commissioner Rob Manfred, people familiar with the discussion told The Associated Press. They spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity because no details were announced.

With its season delayed due to the new coronavirus, both sides are searching for ways to get under way. Kansas City manager Mike Matheny would feel privileged to help the country return to a semblance of normalcy and provide an escape for fans.

“Just jump in and trust that we may not know when we’ll reconnect with our families, and trust that when health officials decide it’s OK we’ll be able to do that,” Matheny said. “But in the meantime, do something that would really help the healing process."

Baseball officials intend to study which options may be viable economically and would gain necessary approvals. The league said it has not yet sought approval of any plan from federal, state and local officials, or from the players' association.

“MLB has been actively considering numerous contingency plans that would allow play to commence once the public health situation has improved to the point that it is safe to do so,” the commissioner’s office said in a statement. “While we have discussed the idea of staging games at one location as one potential option, we have not settled on that option or developed a detailed plan.”

Arizona has 10 spring training ballparks plus the Arizona Diamondbacks’ Chase Field all within about 50 miles. Phoenix Municipal Stadium — Oakland’s old spring training base and now Arizona State’s stadium — is an option along with Grand Canyon’s Brazell Field.

Chase Field could host several games each day following its switch to an artificial surface ahead of the 2019 season.

“We would not have been able to do it with grass, but now with the synthetic grass, absolutely,” Diamondbacks President Derrick Hall said.

Baseball’s look would be different in empty ballparks. Players from the Orioles and the Chicago White Sox still recall playing in a deserted Camden Yards in 2015 when civil unrest caused a closed-doors game. The game sped along in 2 hours, 3 minutes.

“It was a weird feeling having nobody in the stands,” said Sale, a member of those White Sox. “But sometimes you got to adapt. Sometimes you got to do some things for the greater good of what’s going on around you.”

That was a one-off. This would be every day, pretty much 15 games a day.

“My sense is that it divorces the game from the fans except via television, and that’s a mistake,” former Commissioner Fay Vincent said. “I don’t think a televised game without an audience and without fan reaction is a great idea. I think it’s born in desperation. I’m a traditionalist and a bit of a romantic. I think we ought to wait until we can present the game in its best light.”

Phoenix Mayor Kate Gallego maintained player and public health would be the top priorities.

“There is not a person on the planet who doesn’t want to get back to a time and place marked by familiarity, and there is nothing more familiar than sports, especially the great American pastime of baseball,” she said in a statement. “All of our lives post-COVID-19 will look different. At the city we value flexibility and innovation and are willing to work with the many different sports franchises that call Phoenix home, but only if public health leads every single discussion.”

Former manager Jim Leyland thinks the game will return to the field at some point this year.

“I do applaud people that are trying to be creative and come up with different ideas,” he said. “At the end of the day, they’ll come up with some type of a wonderful package. It’s just a matter of when that’s going to be allowed.”

Starting the season in Arizona presents plenty of complications:

SOME LIKE IT HOT

Temperatures average a high of 105 in Phoenix in June and the thermometer has just started to dip at 5 p.m., when presumably many games would start in order to be in prime time on the East Coast. Chase Field’s retractable roof and air conditioning could make it a site of doubleheaders and even tripleheaders.

EXPANDED ROSTERS

Given the heat and the compacted schedule, active rosters could be expanded from 26. With teams isolated and the status of minor leagues uncertain, extra players also could be kept in the group.

MONEY MATTERS

How much would it cost to put teams and the personnel that travel with them in hotels for double the usual time (no true home games, except for the D-Backs)? There presumably would be savings with not needing charter flights for road trips, but what percentage of that cost was committed in advance? In addition, the absence of ticket revenue would be damaging for many teams. Would player salaries be cut? Who gets to sell stadium signage?

HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE

Would the 15 spring training tenant teams in Arizona always get the home clubhouses? Would they have an advantage from playing in the ballparks during the exhibition season?

THE TUBE

Playing in empty ballparks would keep the money flowing from regional sports networks and the national television contracts with Fox, ESPN and Turner. There might even be expanded national broadcasts.

TESTING

Players, team staff and ballpark, transportation and hotel personnel would have to be tested frequently for coronavirus.

ISOLATION

What is the rule if a player’s wife is giving birth, or if he has a sick parent, spouse or child? Would he be allowed to leave? And if so, would he be quarantined upon his return?

ROBOTS

Would the automatic ball/strike system being tested in the minors replace home plate umpires calling pitches, allowing them to keep social distance from batters and catchers?

REPLAY

Spring training ballparks are not wired for video review. Would it be worth the cost or would MLB go back to the pre-2008 human eye standard?

SCHEDULES

With teams in the same area, would three- and four-game series be standard or would MLB mix it up? During spring training, teams usually switch opponents on a daily basis.

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Blum reported from New York, Brandt from Phoenix.

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AP Sports Writers Kyle Hightower and Dave Skretta contributed to this report.
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For their cheating ways, BoSox get -ed by MLB: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...ealing-scandal
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I saw a blurb on ESPN's IG and thought oh damn are they that bored with no sports and bringing this shit up again.
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Archer done for season: https://www.tsn.ca/pittsburgh-pirate...gery-1.1482656
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Post Manfred Not Confident Season Will Happen

Ugh...but, not surprising TBH...

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Baseball continues its decline
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Can someone sum up for me wtf is going with baseball? From what I know, players and owners want there to be a season but the owners want to pay a percentage salary relative to how many games are played, right?

Why are they fighting over 60 or 70 games?
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Originally Posted by imj0257
Can someone sum up for me wtf is going with baseball? From what I know, players and owners want there to be a season but the owners want to pay a percentage salary relative to how many games are played, right?

Why are they fighting over 60 or 70 games?
The fight is on salaries. The players want to be paid against the number of games played which is what the owners are balking at...so, the players play 80 games, they want to be paid for the 80 games they due...so, for example if I earn $162M a year, I want to be paid for $80M if I play 80 games.

Ownership is not biting on that citing reduced revenues and etc. etc. This is the impasse. Frankly, ownership screwed themselves when they let salaries get to this orbit...so, while I love baseball, watching it burn is sorta funny too.
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60 games?



With no indication that COVID-19 numbers are dropping, not sure how they will play but okay: https://www.tsn.ca/mlb-votes-unanimo...ment-1.1488446
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Chapman has COVID-19. Staying away from Yankees for awhile.
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How the eff are they going to have a season? Lol.


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