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Old 07-23-2013, 09:47 AM
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And only a matter of when A-Cheat is given the boot too.
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Going, going...Braun!
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And only a matter of when A-Cheat is given the boot too.
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This is definitely a black eye for baseball but, then again this sport has been dying a slow death well before Biogenesis.
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They have no eyes left, this has been going for years
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Possible lifetime suspension for A-Rod
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Pirates are 22 games above .500
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Wheeee Yankees get out of a sh@t contract!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...nesis/2606319/

Commissioner Bud Selig is prepared to levy a lifetime suspension on New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez, while suspending about eight others before the weekend, two people with knowledge of the negotiations told USA TODAY Sports.

The people were unauthorized to speak publicly because no announcement is expected until Thursday or Friday.

BRENNAN: Crackdown shows tide has turned on MLB dopers

Rodriguez, according to his attorney, David Cornwell, will appeal any suspension, regardless of the severity. The other players are expected to receive 50-game bans, and most are considering accepting the discipline without appealing, according to one of the people.

As many as 20 players were originally linked to Biogenesis, a Miami clinic that allegedly provided performance-enhancing drugs, but some players could not be disciplined for lack of evidence.

MLB: Tells union who will be suspended

Besides Rodriguez, All-Stars Nelson Cruz of the Texas Rangers and Jhonny Peralta of the Detroit Tigers are facing possible suspensions, along with shortstop Everth Cabrera of the San Diego Padres.

Rob Manfred, Major League Baseball executive vice president of labor relations, informed the Major League Players Association officials on Tuesday of their findings and suspensions. The players and their representatives will decide whether they will file an appeal or accept the penalties, which would all but end their regular season with barely 50 games remaining.

Rodriguez, who used performance-enhancing drugs from 2010-2012, according to Biogenesis documents, has never been punished for doping. Players who violate the drug policy are subject to a 50-game suspension.

Milwaukee Brewers outfield Ryan Braun was suspended last week for 65 games for what MLB called violations of the Collective Bargaining Agreement and Joint Drug Agreement.
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Selig: 'Historic day' for instant replay in MLB

COOPERSTOWN, N.Y. -- Major League Baseball decided Thursday to implement instant replay on virtually every play but the strikezone - including three manager's challenges per game - that will begin in 2014, Commissioner Bud Selig announced.

"It's a historic day,'' Selig said.

MLB vice president Joe Torre, Atlanta Braves president John Schuerholz and advisor Tony La Russa presented the all-encompassing replay proposal to the 30 ownership groups, which was widely accepted, Selig said, and expected to be formalized at their quarterly owners' meetings Nov. 13-14 in Orlando, Fla.

The replay will include up to three challenges that mangers will be provided during a game, one in the first six innings, and two beginning in the seventh inning through the game's duration. If a manager is successful with his replay challenge, he will not be charged with a review.

If a manager exhausts his three challenges, and umpire crew can make a review of its own only to determine home-run calls, a rule that will be grandfathered in with the new regulations.

Baseball, using its central MLBAM offices in New York, will be provided with replay cameras that will be monitored by men with umpiring experience. They will make the final call on disputed plays, not the crew chief.
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When does A-Rod get his lifetime ban? That's all I care about.
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MLB instant replay.....a long time coming.
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Way overdue
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Well I don't like it. Part of baseball is the human umpiring. The game is built on that.
MLB invests billions into this system. This will lead to electronic ball/strikes with the chips built into the balls/plate eventually.
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Human error...
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Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
chips built into the balls
Is that some modern vasectomy deal?
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I think the level of Instant Replay today is ideal. I like the idea of using it for home runs calls. I do not know about wide spread use of it. I think the human element is good for the game. Also, now you have more umps that will hesitate because they do not want to be over-ruled.
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Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
Well I don't like it. Part of baseball is the human umpiring. The game is built on that.
MLB invests billions into this system. This will lead to electronic ball/strikes with the chips built into the balls/plate eventually.
Umpires like Angel Hernandez make instant replay necessary.


Even the Indians fans sitting where the ball hit knew it was a homerun.

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Bye Bye Charlie....

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb
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Originally Posted by RaviNJCLs
I think the level of Instant Replay today is ideal. I like the idea of using it for home runs calls. I do not know about wide spread use of it. I think the human element is good for the game. Also, now you have more umps that will hesitate because they do not want to be over-ruled.
It's all about getting the call right
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Allegations that A-Rod’s camp outed players puts union in tough spot



Wow...this trainwreck just keeps getting better and better...

Citing “two sources with direct knowledge of the matter,” 60 Minutes reported Friday morning that “members of . . . Alex Rodriguez’s inner circle” obtained and leaked documents implicating Ryan Braun and Rodriguez’s Yankees teammate Francisco Cervelli in the Biogenesis scandal in February.

Allegations that Rodriguez obtained Biogenesis documents for the purpose of destroying them surfaced in April, and Major League Baseball’s given rationale for suspending Rodriguez for 211 games — as opposed to the 50- or 65-game suspensions handed down to the other major leaguers implicated in the scandal — hinges in part on its assertion that he engaged in “a course of conduct intended to obstruct and frustrate the Office of the Commissioner’s investigation.”

This latest allegation fits neatly into that narrative and corresponds exactly with the contents of this Feb. 5 report by Yahoo! Sports. According to 60 Minutes sources, the version of the documents obtained by the Miami New Times, the alternative weekly that initially broke the Biogenesis scandal in January, had the names of Braun, Cervelli and Orioles infielder Danny Valencia (the last of whom was not disciplined by MLB) redacted, but Rodriguez’s camp obtained unredacted versions of those documents and provided them to Yahoo! Sports.

The degree to which this will impact Rodriguez’s appeal of his suspension is unclear, because it’s not yet known whether or not this is something MLB already knew about. It does Rodriguez no favors in the court of public opinion, though it’s difficult to imagine he has much farther to fall in that regard. Rodriguez and his legal team continue to deny everything, telling 60 Minutes that “the drumbeat of false allegations continues.” Indeed, Rodriguez continues to insist that he hasn’t used performance enhancing drugs since 2003 and never had any relationship with the Biogenesis clinic or its founder Anthony Bosch.

If these latest allegations are correct, however, Rodriguez, assuming he is held responsible for the actions of his “inner circle,” would have violated the collectively bargained Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program, which lays out in great detail exactly who and what may be made public with regard to violations of the Program and in no way allows for third parties to publicly out players.

That would put the Players Association in a tricky spot. It is in the union’s interest to fight Rodriguez’s suspension because of the precedent it sets of allowing the commissioner to hand down lengthy suspensions outside of the schedule in the current Program. There is language in the program that enables the commissioner to levy such a suspension (specifically section 7.G.2, “A player may be subjected to disciplinary action for just cause by the Commissioner for any Player violation of Section 2 above not reference in Section 7.A through 7.F above.”) but this is the first significant use of that clause against a player in the union. However, if Rodriguez is in clear violation of the agreement and violated it by outing other players, his actions would seem to be indefensible, even by his own union.

It’s important to remember that the union represents the players and the players are becoming increasingly outspoken about their lack of tolerance for cheaters and their desire for stiffer penalties for those in violation of the Program. As one American Leaguer said to ESPN’s Howard Bryant last week, “Guy uses steroids. He then puts up better numbers than I do. He goes to free agency and gets the years and the money, takes a job I don’t get and now I have to scramble during the winter to find another slot. Then, he gets busted for steroids and we use my union dues for his lawyers, his defense and his appeal? And that makes sense to you? That bulls— is fair?”

With Rodriguez, the union is being forced to walk a tightrope between supporting stiffer penalties and keeping the power of the commissioner in check. It’s not clear that it can successfully do both in this case.
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So, I'm gonna call him "A-Cheating-Tattle" from now on instead of A-Rod.
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A-Rod just got beaned.......and then scored a run. Hate him or not, gotta stick with the program if you want to win that pennant Bosox. #NATIONALLEAGUEISREALBASEBALL
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Then hit a home run................At least it was the most exciting Yankee game this year.
I heard his appeal could take into the offseason to hear out fully.
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Amazing that they suspend him and then allow him to come back during his appeal. I think all they really care about is the ratings hike they're getting from him playing
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Amazing that they suspend him and then allow him to come back during his appeal. I think all they really care about is the ratings hike they're getting from him playing
That's the way the policy is written. It's flawed.

My belief is that there should be a 211 game suspension and that can be increased to 422 if he chooses to appeal and is found guilty. They should make it so that you only appeal if you KNOW you are innocent. If you're guilty then you should face more of a sentence for waiting people's time.
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I know that's how it's written, I think it's stupid
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I know that's how it's written, I think it's stupid
I agree. I say ban him for life instantly. You or I get popped for using drugs at work we would be looking for another job.
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It's just laughable, that they announce his "suspension" and he comes back and starts playing like the next day...
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I applaud Dempster for beaning A-Cheating-Tattler yesterday.
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Why?
1 - he never tested positive for anything,
2 - No one has seen any proof as of yet of anything MLB says is true & these "facts" were taken from a guy that gave up names for $.
3 - He has every right to appeal as per their own agreements.
4 - Would another player not arod get treated the same & be thrown at intentionally?

I don't like arod & never have but condoning the actions of Dempster is crazy. What makes him judge?
Lackey had much more to say & said it openly before the series started & he didn't feel the need to throw at arod like that.

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Tumbleweeds in here. Looks like another good race to the wire in a lot of divisions. Obviously watching the NL Central like a hawk.
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i cant even say that with a straight face
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It will never feel right with them being in the AL, just like the Brewers don't belong in the NL!
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we dont even have any star players.....

love sitting in the dug out and screaming L.J Hoes name.
"HOES AT BAT!"
"WE WANT MORE HOES!"
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Well, in a season marred with disgraceful cheaters and the complete of the Chicago baseball teams, I do have to say, it is going to be sad to see Mariano Rivera go.

I may have never liked the Yankees because of how they "bought" titles...but, there is no doubting the class and abilities of their legendary closer.

Nice write-up this month on SI: http://mlb.si.com/2013/09/18/mariano...?sct=mlb_t2_a4
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