The Mitchell Report - Clemens' named leaked
12-13-2007, 09:20 AM
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The Mitchell Report - Clemens' named leaked
Roger Clemens is the first name reported to be the list.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3153129
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3153129
Source says Clemens will be named in Mitchell report
A former New York Yankee strength trainer says information he supplied to the George Mitchell investigation regarding supplying Roger Clemens with steroids is included in the Mitchell report scheduled to be released later today, a source close to the trainer told ESPN The Magazine's Shaun Assael.
Brian McNamee, who worked for the Yankees and as a personal trainer for Clemens and Yankee teammates Andy Pettitte, also told investigators that on at least one occasion, Clemens was in possession of steroids from another supplier, the source said.
The source said McNamee told investigators he supplied Clemens with steroids while Clemens was witih the Yankees, and prior to Clemens joining the team.
Also, The Bergen (N.J.) Record, citing a baseball industry official, says "several" prominent Yankees will be named in the Mitchell report. The paper said the source spoke to a third party who had seen the final report.
"It's going to be a rough day in the Bronx," the paper quoted the source as saying.
Baseball commissioner Bud Selig told the Chicago Tribune that he hadn't seen the report, but he was proud it is coming out.
"People can say Bud was just trying to cover his butt or take care of his legacy or whatever," Selig said, according to the Tribune. "I say [bleep] it. This needed to be done, and now we've done it. I'm just happy it will be out there and we can move on. I'm proud of it."
A former New York Yankee strength trainer says information he supplied to the George Mitchell investigation regarding supplying Roger Clemens with steroids is included in the Mitchell report scheduled to be released later today, a source close to the trainer told ESPN The Magazine's Shaun Assael.
Brian McNamee, who worked for the Yankees and as a personal trainer for Clemens and Yankee teammates Andy Pettitte, also told investigators that on at least one occasion, Clemens was in possession of steroids from another supplier, the source said.
The source said McNamee told investigators he supplied Clemens with steroids while Clemens was witih the Yankees, and prior to Clemens joining the team.
Also, The Bergen (N.J.) Record, citing a baseball industry official, says "several" prominent Yankees will be named in the Mitchell report. The paper said the source spoke to a third party who had seen the final report.
"It's going to be a rough day in the Bronx," the paper quoted the source as saying.
Baseball commissioner Bud Selig told the Chicago Tribune that he hadn't seen the report, but he was proud it is coming out.
"People can say Bud was just trying to cover his butt or take care of his legacy or whatever," Selig said, according to the Tribune. "I say [bleep] it. This needed to be done, and now we've done it. I'm just happy it will be out there and we can move on. I'm proud of it."
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12-13-2007, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by te3point5
wow, once this list is released, get ready for all the denials...
some possible excuses:
"I must taken a supplement that was tainted"
"I didn't knowingly buy/use steroids, I thought it was just a supplement"
"They are out to get me"
12-13-2007, 10:49 AM
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I've heard they'll only name guys who are either already retired, recently retired or on the verge. Which is why Clemens makes sense. Should be very interesting.
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12-13-2007, 10:52 AM
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I'm not sure of the veracity of this list:
1) Brady Anderson 20) Roger Clemens 39) Juan Gonzalez 58) Rafael Palmiero
2) Manny Alexander 21) Paxton Crawford 40) Clay Hensley 59) Albert Pujols
3) Rick Ankiel 22) Wilson Delgado 41) Jerry Hairston 60) Brian Roberts
4) Jeff Bagwell 23) Lenny Dykstra 42) Felix Heredia 61) Juan Rincon
5) Barry Bonds 24) Johnny Damon 43) Darren Holmes 62) John Rocker
6) Aaron Boone 25) Carl Everett 44) Wally Joyner 63) Pudge Rodriguez
7) Raf Bettancourt 26) Kyle Farnsworth 45) Darryl Kile 64) Sammy Sosa
8) Bret Boone 27) Ryan Franklin 46) Matt Lawton 65) Scott Schoenweiis
9) Milton Bradley 28) Troy Glaus 47) Raul Mondesi 66) David Segui
10) David Bell 29) Rich Garces 48) Mark McGwire 67) Alex Sanchez
11) Dante Bichette 30) Jason Grimsley 49) Guillermo Mota 68) Gary Sheffield
12) Albert Belle 31) Troy Glaus 50) Robert Machado 69) Miguel Tejada
13) Paul Byrd 32) Juan Gonzalez 51) Damian Moss 70) Julian Tavarez
14) Wil Cordero 33) Eric Gagne 52) Abraham Nunez 71) Fernando Tatis
15) Ken Caminiti 34) Nomar Garciapra 53) Trot Nixon 72) Maurice Vaughn
16) Mike Cameron 35) Jason Giambi 54) Jose Offerman 73) Jason Varitek
17) Ramon Castro 36) Jeremy Giambi 55) Andy Pettitte 74) Ismael Valdez
18) Jose Canseco 37) Jose Guillen 56) Mark Prior 75) Matt Williams
19) Ozzie Canseco 38) Jay Gibbons 57) Neifi Perez 76) Kerry Wood
1) Brady Anderson 20) Roger Clemens 39) Juan Gonzalez 58) Rafael Palmiero
2) Manny Alexander 21) Paxton Crawford 40) Clay Hensley 59) Albert Pujols
3) Rick Ankiel 22) Wilson Delgado 41) Jerry Hairston 60) Brian Roberts
4) Jeff Bagwell 23) Lenny Dykstra 42) Felix Heredia 61) Juan Rincon
5) Barry Bonds 24) Johnny Damon 43) Darren Holmes 62) John Rocker
6) Aaron Boone 25) Carl Everett 44) Wally Joyner 63) Pudge Rodriguez
7) Raf Bettancourt 26) Kyle Farnsworth 45) Darryl Kile 64) Sammy Sosa
8) Bret Boone 27) Ryan Franklin 46) Matt Lawton 65) Scott Schoenweiis
9) Milton Bradley 28) Troy Glaus 47) Raul Mondesi 66) David Segui
10) David Bell 29) Rich Garces 48) Mark McGwire 67) Alex Sanchez
11) Dante Bichette 30) Jason Grimsley 49) Guillermo Mota 68) Gary Sheffield
12) Albert Belle 31) Troy Glaus 50) Robert Machado 69) Miguel Tejada
13) Paul Byrd 32) Juan Gonzalez 51) Damian Moss 70) Julian Tavarez
14) Wil Cordero 33) Eric Gagne 52) Abraham Nunez 71) Fernando Tatis
15) Ken Caminiti 34) Nomar Garciapra 53) Trot Nixon 72) Maurice Vaughn
16) Mike Cameron 35) Jason Giambi 54) Jose Offerman 73) Jason Varitek
17) Ramon Castro 36) Jeremy Giambi 55) Andy Pettitte 74) Ismael Valdez
18) Jose Canseco 37) Jose Guillen 56) Mark Prior 75) Matt Williams
19) Ozzie Canseco 38) Jay Gibbons 57) Neifi Perez 76) Kerry Wood
12-13-2007, 10:56 AM
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I'm shocked about Clemens...
12-13-2007, 11:02 AM
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I'm still amazed people are suprised by names on the list. I'm still trying to figure out how A-rod and a bunch of others avoided it.
12-13-2007, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by CLpower
I'm still amazed people are suprised by names on the list. I'm still trying to figure out how A-rod and a bunch of others avoided it.
12-13-2007, 11:06 AM
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Here's a link with all of the names supposedly to be on the list.
http://www.wnbc.com/sports/14845845/detail.html
http://www.wnbc.com/sports/14845845/detail.html
12-13-2007, 11:10 AM
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Not really surprised by Clemens. When I heard it on Mike and Mike this morning, my initial reaction was WHOA. But after that I really wasn't surprised.
12-13-2007, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by CLpower
I'm still amazed people are suprised by names on the list. I'm still trying to figure out how A-rod and a bunch of others avoided it.
About 50% of A Rod's new contract is now in Mitchell's off shore bank account.
12-13-2007, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by NetEditor
I'm not sure of the veracity of this list:
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5) Barry Bonds ... 64) Sammy Sosa
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5) Barry Bonds ... 64) Sammy Sosa
NO WAY!!!
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12-13-2007, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by NetEditor
Any athlete taking steroids would NOT surprise.
Disagree. I'd eat catbarf straight up if you told me Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky, Walter Payton were on drugs.
12-13-2007, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Disagree. I'd eat catbarf straight up if you told me Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky, Walter Payton were on drugs.
I'd be willing to bet they all took something at some point in time whether it was to recover from an injury or not. BUt then again, I think it'd be more applicable to say any MODERN athlete (say since 2000)
12-13-2007, 11:57 AM
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^ Still disagree...and although I do share your cynical view, that does not apply to certain athletes. I cannot imagine a Frank Thomas, Jim Thome, or a Curt Schilling on flaxseed crap or drugs. I don't see how Kobe Bryant is on it. I don't see how Peyton Manning is on anything.
12-13-2007, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NetEditor
I'm not sure of the veracity of this list:
1) Brady Anderson 20) Roger Clemens 39) Juan Gonzalez 58) Rafael Palmiero
2) Manny Alexander 21) Paxton Crawford 40) Clay Hensley 59) Albert Pujols
3) Rick Ankiel 22) Wilson Delgado 41) Jerry Hairston 60) Brian Roberts
4) Jeff Bagwell 23) Lenny Dykstra 42) Felix Heredia 61) Juan Rincon
5) Barry Bonds 24) Johnny Damon 43) Darren Holmes 62) John Rocker
6) Aaron Boone 25) Carl Everett 44) Wally Joyner 63) Pudge Rodriguez
7) Raf Bettancourt 26) Kyle Farnsworth 45) Darryl Kile 64) Sammy Sosa
8) Bret Boone 27) Ryan Franklin 46) Matt Lawton 65) Scott Schoenweiis
9) Milton Bradley 28) Troy Glaus 47) Raul Mondesi 66) David Segui
10) David Bell 29) Rich Garces 48) Mark McGwire 67) Alex Sanchez
11) Dante Bichette 30) Jason Grimsley 49) Guillermo Mota 68) Gary Sheffield
12) Albert Belle 31) Troy Glaus 50) Robert Machado 69) Miguel Tejada
13) Paul Byrd 32) Juan Gonzalez 51) Damian Moss 70) Julian Tavarez
14) Wil Cordero 33) Eric Gagne 52) Abraham Nunez 71) Fernando Tatis
15) Ken Caminiti 34) Nomar Garciapra 53) Trot Nixon 72) Maurice Vaughn
16) Mike Cameron 35) Jason Giambi 54) Jose Offerman 73) Jason Varitek
17) Ramon Castro 36) Jeremy Giambi 55) Andy Pettitte 74) Ismael Valdez
18) Jose Canseco 37) Jose Guillen 56) Mark Prior 75) Matt Williams
19) Ozzie Canseco 38) Jay Gibbons 57) Neifi Perez 76) Kerry Wood
1) Brady Anderson 20) Roger Clemens 39) Juan Gonzalez 58) Rafael Palmiero
2) Manny Alexander 21) Paxton Crawford 40) Clay Hensley 59) Albert Pujols
3) Rick Ankiel 22) Wilson Delgado 41) Jerry Hairston 60) Brian Roberts
4) Jeff Bagwell 23) Lenny Dykstra 42) Felix Heredia 61) Juan Rincon
5) Barry Bonds 24) Johnny Damon 43) Darren Holmes 62) John Rocker
6) Aaron Boone 25) Carl Everett 44) Wally Joyner 63) Pudge Rodriguez
7) Raf Bettancourt 26) Kyle Farnsworth 45) Darryl Kile 64) Sammy Sosa
8) Bret Boone 27) Ryan Franklin 46) Matt Lawton 65) Scott Schoenweiis
9) Milton Bradley 28) Troy Glaus 47) Raul Mondesi 66) David Segui
10) David Bell 29) Rich Garces 48) Mark McGwire 67) Alex Sanchez
11) Dante Bichette 30) Jason Grimsley 49) Guillermo Mota 68) Gary Sheffield
12) Albert Belle 31) Troy Glaus 50) Robert Machado 69) Miguel Tejada
13) Paul Byrd 32) Juan Gonzalez 51) Damian Moss 70) Julian Tavarez
14) Wil Cordero 33) Eric Gagne 52) Abraham Nunez 71) Fernando Tatis
15) Ken Caminiti 34) Nomar Garciapra 53) Trot Nixon 72) Maurice Vaughn
16) Mike Cameron 35) Jason Giambi 54) Jose Offerman 73) Jason Varitek
17) Ramon Castro 36) Jeremy Giambi 55) Andy Pettitte 74) Ismael Valdez
18) Jose Canseco 37) Jose Guillen 56) Mark Prior 75) Matt Williams
19) Ozzie Canseco 38) Jay Gibbons 57) Neifi Perez 76) Kerry Wood
12-13-2007, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
^ Still disagree...and although I do share your cynical view, that does not apply to certain athletes. I cannot imagine a Frank Thomas, Jim Thome, or a Curt Schilling on flaxseed crap or drugs. I don't see how Kobe Bryant is on it. I don't see how Peyton Manning is on anything.
12-13-2007, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
^ Still disagree...and although I do share your cynical view, that does not apply to certain athletes. I cannot imagine a Frank Thomas, Jim Thome, or a Curt Schilling on flaxseed crap or drugs. I don't see how Kobe Bryant is on it. I don't see how Peyton Manning is on anything.
Frank Thomas is my favorite athlete of all time, and I will bet he has taken something at one point in time. Jim Thome? Everyone came to blame people for taking steroids based on how they looked when they came in and when they came out.
Schilling? The injury proned pitcher who always seems to heal so fast? Comical, Pitchers are the worse users
Now keep in mind, some guys took worse things then others. YOu walk into GNC and about 20% of stuff you buy over the counter is illegal for these athletes to use.
12-13-2007, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike 350Z
Think about this...clemens probably made $100 million the last few years thanks to steroids. How can you tell people not to use this stuff?
You can't, until recently when teams stopped turning a blind eye, handing it out in the locker room, encouraging it.
12-13-2007, 01:34 PM
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The report...all 409 pages
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphic...hellreport.pdf
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphic...hellreport.pdf
12-13-2007, 01:35 PM
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DECEMBER 13--Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, Miguel Tejada, Gary Sheffield, Andy Pettitte, and Paul Lo Duca top the list of baseball stars fingered today as users of performance-enhancing drugs in the bombshell investigative report issued by George Mitchell, who has spent the past 20 months probing the widespread use of steroids and other banned substances in the sport.
Included among the dozens of other current and former ballplayers identified in the Mitchell Report as users of either steroids, human growth hormone, or other banned substances are John Rocker, Lenny Dykstra, Chuck Knoblauch, Eric Gagne, Mo Vaughn, Benito Santiago, Jason Giambi, Matt Williams, Rondell White, and Kevin Brown.
Included among the dozens of other current and former ballplayers identified in the Mitchell Report as users of either steroids, human growth hormone, or other banned substances are John Rocker, Lenny Dykstra, Chuck Knoblauch, Eric Gagne, Mo Vaughn, Benito Santiago, Jason Giambi, Matt Williams, Rondell White, and Kevin Brown.
12-13-2007, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
DECEMBER 13--Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, Miguel Tejada, Gary Sheffield, Andy Pettitte, and Paul Lo Duca top the list of baseball stars fingered today as users of performance-enhancing drugs in the bombshell investigative report issued by George Mitchell, who has spent the past 20 months probing the widespread use of steroids and other banned substances in the sport.
Included among the dozens of other current and former ballplayers identified in the Mitchell Report as users of either steroids, human growth hormone, or other banned substances are John Rocker, Lenny Dykstra, Chuck Knoblauch, Eric Gagne, Mo Vaughn, Benito Santiago, Jason Giambi, Matt Williams, Rondell White, and Kevin Brown.
Included among the dozens of other current and former ballplayers identified in the Mitchell Report as users of either steroids, human growth hormone, or other banned substances are John Rocker, Lenny Dykstra, Chuck Knoblauch, Eric Gagne, Mo Vaughn, Benito Santiago, Jason Giambi, Matt Williams, Rondell White, and Kevin Brown.
12-13-2007, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike 350Z
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