The "LE TOUR DE FRANCE" thread
07-01-2005, 12:04 AM
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The "LE TOUR DE FRANCE" thread
i really don't see anyone beating lance. the team tt is going to be awesome!
Le Tour, Stage by Stage
Here's a list of the Tour's 21 stages to help you anticipate the daily race action.
1. Fromentine-Noirmoutier, July 2, 19-km individual time trial. Other than an arching bridge soon after the start, the course is coastal flat and described as a "drag strip." But strong crosswinds are possible. Armstrong, starting last of the 189 riders as defending champion, will hope to make a strong psychological impact as well as open significant first-day time gaps on the climbers.
2. Challans-Les Essarts, July 3, 181 km. A flat stage for the sprinters while everyone tries to avoid the adrenalized crashes that have plagued the early stages of past Tours.
3. La Chataigneraie-Tours, July 4, 212 km. Three small climbs should barely be noticed in a stage that favors a sprint finish after long, tailwind-aided breakaways are reeled in.
4. Tour-Blois, July 5, 67.5-km team time trial. A key stage for revealing team strength and establishing time splits among the overall ("general classification" or GC) contenders. The course is flat until the final 20 km, where a series of short climbs will test strength as well as cohesive teamwork. Like last year, time losses will be determined by finishing order. The second-place team will drop 20 seconds to the winner. Each subsequent team will lose an additional 10 seconds. Thus, the 21st and slowest team will lose 3 minutes.
5. Chambord-Montargis, July 6, 183 km. The course is only slightly undulating and not expected to spawn decisive moves, so look for another bunch finish -- unless a group without GC threats succeeds in staying away, as one did early in the 2004 Tour.
6. Troyes-Nancy, July 7, 199 km. Four mild, category 4 climbs could spark breakaway activity. The final hill, 3.2-km long at a 5.2% grade, comes 13 km before the finish and could be key.
7. Luneville-Karlsruhe, July 8, 228 km. Another stage that favors a bunch finish with the sprinters leading the charge. It ends in Germany, but favorite son Eric Zabel won't win. The veteran was left off T-Mobile's Tour team.
8. Pforzheim-Gerardmer, July 9, 231 km. The biggest climb so far (a category 2) comes 15 km before the downhill finish. That should animate the stage-hunters while GC contenders play it cool ahead of the first mountains.
9. Gerardmer-Mulhouse, July 10, 171 km. Six categorized climbs, including this Tour's first category 1, are sure to open some lungs. Experts are predicting that this stage will shatter the field, ending the hopes of some GC riders with more than half the Tour remaining.
10. Grenoble-Courchevel, July 12, 192 km. After a rest day, the Tour enters the Alps. The category 1 Cormet-de-Roseland comes just past halfway in this stage, rising 20 km at an average 6% grade. The finish line is atop the 22-km, 6.2% Courchevel at 6,561 feet. In past Tours, Armstrong has proclaimed his dominance on the first mountaintop finish. No one should be surprised if he tries to do it again.
11. Courchevel-Briancon, July 13, 173 km. Here's a day for the stars to come out to play. The stage features two "beyond category" climbs, the Col de la Madeleine (25.4 km at 6.1%) and the Col du Galibier (17.5 km at 6.9%) with the category 1 Col du Telegraphe between them. All serious challengers for the yellow jersey should reach the Galibier together, where epic action is expected. A fast, 40-km descent will deliver the leaders to the finish line.
12. Briancon-Digne les Baines, July 14, 187 km. On Bastille Day, look for French riders to be feisty. This third Alpine stage isn't nearly as severe as 10 and 11 on paper, but Armstrong predicts "it's going to be a hard day. There will be some surprises for a lot of people, especially if it is very hot."
13. Miramas-Montpellier, July 15, 173 km. After the Alps, the riders take this relatively flat route toward the Pyrenees. It'll be an on-bike rest day for the GC leaders, giving ambitious also-rans the chance to break away and duke it out for a stage win.
14. Agde-Ax 3 Domaines, July 16, 220 km. A hard stage with the beyond-category Port de Pailheres (15 km at 8%) immediately followed by the finish atop Ax 3 Domaines (9 km at 7.3%). All that climbing is packed into the final 50 km.
15. Lezat sur Leze-St. Lary Soulan, July 17, 205 km. Brutal stage. Four category 1 climbs deliver the riders to the Tour's third and final mountaintop finish, the beyond-category Pla d'Adet (10.3 km at 8.3%). Not incidentally, it will be the final mountaintop finish of Armstrong's storied career. You know how Big Tex reveres history.
16. Mourenx-Pau, July 19, 180 km. After the second rest day, the peloton rides out of the Pyrenees, but not without one more beyond-category climb, the Col d'Aubisque (16.5 km at 7%). Should an overall contender escape on the mountain, opposing teams have 50 flattish kilometers to pull him back before the finish.
17. Pau-Revel, July 20, 239 km. This Tour's longest stage (148 miles) has a profile like saw teeth. A category 3 climb (2.7 km at 5.1%) near the finish could spring the day's winner.
18. Albi -Mende, July 21, 189 km. Now in the Massif Central mountains, this stage has 5 categorized climbs. The last one is the toughie: the Cote de la Croix-Neuve, 3.1 km at 10.1%. If the GC is still close, the battle for precious seconds could be intense.
19. Issoire-Le Puy en Velay, July 22, 153 km. With a huge time trial to follow, no yellow-jersey contender is likely to lay it on the line in this hilly stage. A category 2 climb comes early. Look for riders who couldn't care less about the TT to hunt a stage win.
20. St. Entienne-St. Entienne, July 23, 55 km individual time trial. Forget a flat, simple TT. The course is almost never horizontal and even includes a category 3 climb (5.7 km at 4.5%). As usual with a late time trial, this one could decide the Tour for the yellow jersey wearer. He could confirm his superiority by winning the stage . . . or lose everything. Could this Tour come down to a one final mano-a-mano battle between Armstrong and Jan Ullrich?
21. Corbeil Essonnes - Paris, July 24, 144 km. Traditionally there is no racing in this stage before the peloton enters Paris for 8 laps of the Champs Elysees finishing circuit. It's a feel-good procession until the top riders on GC get safely out of the way of last-minute glory seekers.
Total: 2,236 miles (3,607 km) with 112,600 feet (34,320 meters) of climbing.
Le Tour, Stage by Stage
Here's a list of the Tour's 21 stages to help you anticipate the daily race action.
1. Fromentine-Noirmoutier, July 2, 19-km individual time trial. Other than an arching bridge soon after the start, the course is coastal flat and described as a "drag strip." But strong crosswinds are possible. Armstrong, starting last of the 189 riders as defending champion, will hope to make a strong psychological impact as well as open significant first-day time gaps on the climbers.
2. Challans-Les Essarts, July 3, 181 km. A flat stage for the sprinters while everyone tries to avoid the adrenalized crashes that have plagued the early stages of past Tours.
3. La Chataigneraie-Tours, July 4, 212 km. Three small climbs should barely be noticed in a stage that favors a sprint finish after long, tailwind-aided breakaways are reeled in.
4. Tour-Blois, July 5, 67.5-km team time trial. A key stage for revealing team strength and establishing time splits among the overall ("general classification" or GC) contenders. The course is flat until the final 20 km, where a series of short climbs will test strength as well as cohesive teamwork. Like last year, time losses will be determined by finishing order. The second-place team will drop 20 seconds to the winner. Each subsequent team will lose an additional 10 seconds. Thus, the 21st and slowest team will lose 3 minutes.
5. Chambord-Montargis, July 6, 183 km. The course is only slightly undulating and not expected to spawn decisive moves, so look for another bunch finish -- unless a group without GC threats succeeds in staying away, as one did early in the 2004 Tour.
6. Troyes-Nancy, July 7, 199 km. Four mild, category 4 climbs could spark breakaway activity. The final hill, 3.2-km long at a 5.2% grade, comes 13 km before the finish and could be key.
7. Luneville-Karlsruhe, July 8, 228 km. Another stage that favors a bunch finish with the sprinters leading the charge. It ends in Germany, but favorite son Eric Zabel won't win. The veteran was left off T-Mobile's Tour team.
8. Pforzheim-Gerardmer, July 9, 231 km. The biggest climb so far (a category 2) comes 15 km before the downhill finish. That should animate the stage-hunters while GC contenders play it cool ahead of the first mountains.
9. Gerardmer-Mulhouse, July 10, 171 km. Six categorized climbs, including this Tour's first category 1, are sure to open some lungs. Experts are predicting that this stage will shatter the field, ending the hopes of some GC riders with more than half the Tour remaining.
10. Grenoble-Courchevel, July 12, 192 km. After a rest day, the Tour enters the Alps. The category 1 Cormet-de-Roseland comes just past halfway in this stage, rising 20 km at an average 6% grade. The finish line is atop the 22-km, 6.2% Courchevel at 6,561 feet. In past Tours, Armstrong has proclaimed his dominance on the first mountaintop finish. No one should be surprised if he tries to do it again.
11. Courchevel-Briancon, July 13, 173 km. Here's a day for the stars to come out to play. The stage features two "beyond category" climbs, the Col de la Madeleine (25.4 km at 6.1%) and the Col du Galibier (17.5 km at 6.9%) with the category 1 Col du Telegraphe between them. All serious challengers for the yellow jersey should reach the Galibier together, where epic action is expected. A fast, 40-km descent will deliver the leaders to the finish line.
12. Briancon-Digne les Baines, July 14, 187 km. On Bastille Day, look for French riders to be feisty. This third Alpine stage isn't nearly as severe as 10 and 11 on paper, but Armstrong predicts "it's going to be a hard day. There will be some surprises for a lot of people, especially if it is very hot."
13. Miramas-Montpellier, July 15, 173 km. After the Alps, the riders take this relatively flat route toward the Pyrenees. It'll be an on-bike rest day for the GC leaders, giving ambitious also-rans the chance to break away and duke it out for a stage win.
14. Agde-Ax 3 Domaines, July 16, 220 km. A hard stage with the beyond-category Port de Pailheres (15 km at 8%) immediately followed by the finish atop Ax 3 Domaines (9 km at 7.3%). All that climbing is packed into the final 50 km.
15. Lezat sur Leze-St. Lary Soulan, July 17, 205 km. Brutal stage. Four category 1 climbs deliver the riders to the Tour's third and final mountaintop finish, the beyond-category Pla d'Adet (10.3 km at 8.3%). Not incidentally, it will be the final mountaintop finish of Armstrong's storied career. You know how Big Tex reveres history.
16. Mourenx-Pau, July 19, 180 km. After the second rest day, the peloton rides out of the Pyrenees, but not without one more beyond-category climb, the Col d'Aubisque (16.5 km at 7%). Should an overall contender escape on the mountain, opposing teams have 50 flattish kilometers to pull him back before the finish.
17. Pau-Revel, July 20, 239 km. This Tour's longest stage (148 miles) has a profile like saw teeth. A category 3 climb (2.7 km at 5.1%) near the finish could spring the day's winner.
18. Albi -Mende, July 21, 189 km. Now in the Massif Central mountains, this stage has 5 categorized climbs. The last one is the toughie: the Cote de la Croix-Neuve, 3.1 km at 10.1%. If the GC is still close, the battle for precious seconds could be intense.
19. Issoire-Le Puy en Velay, July 22, 153 km. With a huge time trial to follow, no yellow-jersey contender is likely to lay it on the line in this hilly stage. A category 2 climb comes early. Look for riders who couldn't care less about the TT to hunt a stage win.
20. St. Entienne-St. Entienne, July 23, 55 km individual time trial. Forget a flat, simple TT. The course is almost never horizontal and even includes a category 3 climb (5.7 km at 4.5%). As usual with a late time trial, this one could decide the Tour for the yellow jersey wearer. He could confirm his superiority by winning the stage . . . or lose everything. Could this Tour come down to a one final mano-a-mano battle between Armstrong and Jan Ullrich?
21. Corbeil Essonnes - Paris, July 24, 144 km. Traditionally there is no racing in this stage before the peloton enters Paris for 8 laps of the Champs Elysees finishing circuit. It's a feel-good procession until the top riders on GC get safely out of the way of last-minute glory seekers.
Total: 2,236 miles (3,607 km) with 112,600 feet (34,320 meters) of climbing.
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07-01-2005, 05:39 PM
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True, luck is involved. One crash could end it.
07-01-2005, 06:34 PM
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I've very excited this year but very disappointed it won't be covered on the Discovery channel live. I don't get OLN tv here so I have to listen to the radio 
The other tough team other than lance's discovery is of course Ullrich's team which this year has both Alexandre Vinokourov (who was second in the tour 2 years ago) and Andreas Kloden who are all good mountain and time trialists .
I also wouldn't rule out team CSC which has a couple Americans on the team and good mountain rider Basso.
Baring any freak accidents or problems I really have to pull for Lance as the best. Hell even with that fall on the mountains last year he still got up and took off like a bullet.
The other tough team other than lance's discovery is of course Ullrich's team which this year has both Alexandre Vinokourov (who was second in the tour 2 years ago) and Andreas Kloden who are all good mountain and time trialists .
I also wouldn't rule out team CSC which has a couple Americans on the team and good mountain rider Basso.
Baring any freak accidents or problems I really have to pull for Lance as the best. Hell even with that fall on the mountains last year he still got up and took off like a bullet.
07-01-2005, 09:15 PM
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Lance will win, i hope to see Ullrich compete hard tho, i enjoy his style.
Tomorrow is teh day, i can't fucking wait!!!!!!!!!!
Tomorrow is teh day, i can't fucking wait!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Astroboy
i hope to see Ullrich compete hard tho, i enjoy his style.
Tomorrow is teh day, i can't fucking wait!!!!!!!!!!
Tomorrow is teh day, i can't fucking wait!!!!!!!!!!
And I'd pay money to see this again in Lance's last Tour:
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Originally Posted by Mike
he fell year before last, no?
anyone want to hazard a guess as to who will win the gc, kom or sprinters?
anyone want to hazard a guess as to who will win the gc, kom or sprinters?
As for the other prizes, well in the sprint Stuart O Grady, Baden Cooke, and Bradley Mcgee are always the top contenders and Tom Boonen showed that he might have a breakout year. Erik Zabel, usually a contender I believe wasn't picked up by a team this year, probably near the end of his career.
For King of the Mountains, since Richard Virenque is now retired that leaves it a bit more open. Lance never goes for the King of the Mountain, yet last year he came in second by just racing his race. I have a feeling Christophe Moreau will get it this year and perhaps others like Sastre and Mayo coming in close as well.
Yup I'm excited
07-02-2005, 01:11 AM
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^^ great post! zabel is out. what's up petacchi?? what do you think of gibo , cunego, heras and mayo in the mountains? mayo has been pretty quite this year.
tlover!!!! you found the pic of 'the look'
tlover!!!! you found the pic of 'the look'
07-02-2005, 01:17 AM
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http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2005...p?id=startlist
formatting sucks but you get the idea. edit - forgot to mention chris horner
Start list
Updated July 1, believed to be final.
Discovery Channel T-Mobile Team
1 Lance Armstrong (USA) 11 Jan Ullrich (Ger)
2 Jose Azevedo (Por) 12 Giuseppe Guerini (Ita)
3 Manuel Beltran (Spa) 13 Matthias Kessler (Ger)
4 George Hincapie (USA) 14 Andreas Klöden (Ger)
5 Benjamin Noval (Spa) 15 Daniele Nardello (Ita)
6 Pavel Padrnos (Cze) 16 Stephan Schreck (Ger)
7 Yaroslav Popovych (Ukr) 17 Oscar Sevilla (Spa)
8 Jose Luis Rubiera (Spa) 18 Tobias Steinhauser (Ger)
9 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) 19 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz)
Team CSC Illes Balears-Caisse d'Epargne
21 Ivan Basso (Ita) 31 Francisco Mancebo (Spa)
22 Kurt-Asle Arvesen (Nor) 32 José Luis Arrieta (Spa)
23 Bobby Julich (USA) 33 David Arroyo (Spa)
24 Giovanni Lombardi (Ita) 34 Daniel Becke (Spa)
25 Luke Roberts (Aus) 35 Isaac Gálvez (Spa)
26 Carlos Sastre (Spa) 36 Jose Vicente García Acosta (Spa)
27 Nicki Sörensen (Den) 37 Vladimir Karpets (Rus)
28 Jens Voigt (Ger) 38 Alejandro Valverde (Spa)
29 David Zabriskie (USA) 39 Xabier Zandio (Spa)
Davitamon-Lotto Rabobank
41 Robbie McEwen (Aus) 51 Denis Menchov (Rus)
42 Mario Aerts (Bel) 52 Michael Boogerd (Ned)
43 Christophe Brandt (Bel) 53 Erik Dekker (Ned)
44 Cadel Evans (Aus) 54 Karsten Kroon (Ned)
45 Axel Merckx (Bel) 55 Gerben Löwik (Ned)
46 Fred Rodriguez (USA) 56 Joost Posthuma (Ned)
47 Leon van Bon (Ned) 57 Michael Rasmussen (Den)
48 Johan Vansummeren (Bel) 58 Marc Wauters (Bel)
49 Wim Vansevenant (Bel) 59 Pieter Weening (Ned)
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61 Santiago Botero (Col) 71 Fabian Cancellara (Swi)
62 Bert Grabsch (Ger) 72 Lorenzo Bernucci (Ita)
63 Jose Enrique Gutierrez (Spa) 73 Claudio Corioni (Ita)
64 Robert Hunter (RSA) 74 Mauro Facci (Ita)
65 Nicolas Jalabert (Fra) 75 Juan Antonio Flecha (Spa)
66 Floyd Landis (USA) 76 Dario Frigo (Ita)
67 Alexandre Moos (Swi) 77 Massimo Giunti (Ita)
68 Oscar Pereiro Sio (Spa) 78 Volodimir Gustov (Ukr)
69 Steve Zampieri (Swi) 79 Kim Kirchen (Lux)
Saunier Duval-Prodir Liberty Seguros-Würth
81 Juan Manuel Garate (Spa) 91 Roberto Heras (Spa)
82 Rubens Bertogliati (Swi) 92 Joseba Beloki (Spa)
83 David Canada (Spa) 93 Alberto Contador (Spa)
84 Nicolas Fritsch (Fra) 94 Allan Davis (Aus)
85 Jose Angel Gomez Marchante (Spa) 95 Igor Gonzalez de Galdeano (Spa)
86 Chris Horner (USA) 96 Jörg Jaksche (Ger)
87 Leonardo Piepoli (Ita) 97 Luis León Sanchez (Spa)
88 Manuel Quinziato (Ita) 98 Marcos Serrano (Spa)
89 Constantino Zaballa (Spa) 99 Angel Vicioso (Spa)
Credit Agricole Liquigas-Bianchi
101 Christophe Moreau (Fra) 111 Stefano Garzelli (Ita)
102 Laszlo Bodrogi (Hun) 112 Michael Albasini (Swi)
103 Pietro Caucchioli (Ita) 113 Magnus Backstedt (Swe)
104 Patrice Halgand (Fra) 114 Kjell Carlström (Fin)
105 Sébastien Hinault (Fra) 115 Dario Cioni (Ita)
106 Thor Hushovd (Nor) 116 Mauro Gerosa (Ita)
107 Sébastien Joly (Fra) 117 Marcus Ljungqvist (Swe)
108 Andrei Kashechkin (Kaz) 118 Luciano Pagliarini (Bra)
109 Jaan Kirsipuu (Est) 119 Franco Pellizotti (Fra)
Cofidis, Le Credit Par Telephone Quick.Step
121 Stuart O'Grady (Aus) 131 Tom Boonen (Bel)
122 Stéphane Augé (Fra) 132 Wilfried Cretskens (Bel)
123 Frédéric Bessy (Fra) 133 Kevin Hulsmans (Bel)
124 Sylvain Chavanel (Fra) 134 Servais Knaven (Ned)
125 Thierry Marichal (Bel) 135 Michael Rogers (Aus)
126 David Moncoutié (Fra) 136 Patrik Sinkewitz (Ger)
127 Janek Tombak (Est) 137 Bram Tankink (Ned)
128 Cédric Vasseur (Fra) 138 Guido Trenti (USA)
129 Matthew White (Aus) 139 Stefano Zanini (Ita)
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141 Didier Rous (Fra) 151 Eddy Mazzoleni (Ita)
142 Walter Bénéteau (Fra) 152 Gianluca Bortolami (Ita)
143 Laurent Brochard (Fra) 153 Salvatore Commesso (Ita)
144 Pierrick Fédrigo (Fra) 154 Gerrit Glomser (Aut)
145 Anthony Geslin (Fra) 155 David Loosli (Swi)
146 Laurent Lefèvre (Fra) 156 Evgeni Petrov (Rus)
147 Jérôme Pineau (Fra) 157 Daniele Righi (Ita)
148 Matthieu Sprick (Fra) 158 Alessandro Spezialetti (Ita)
149 Thomas Voeckler (Fra) 159 Gorazd Stangelj (Slo)
Gerolsteiner Française Des Jeux
161 Georg Totschnig (Aut) 171 Bradley McGee (Aus)
162 Robert Förster (Ger) 172 Sandy Casar (Fra)
163 Sebastian Lang (Ger) 173 Baden Cooke (Aus)
164 Levi Leipheimer (USA) 174 Carlos Da Cruz (Fra)
165 Michael Rich (Ger) 175 Bernhard Eisel (Aut)
166 Ronny Scholz (Ger) 176 Philippe Gilbert (Bel)
167 Fabian Wegmann (Ger) 177 Thomas Lövkvist (Swe)
168 Peter Wrolich (Aut) 178 Christophe Mengin (Fra)
169 Beat Zberg (Swi) 179 Francis Mourey (Fra)
Domina Vacanze Euskaltel-Euskadi
181 Sergei Gonchar (Ukr) 191 Iban Mayo (Spa)
182 Alessandro Bertolini (Ita) 192 Iker Camano (Spa)
183 Alessandro Cortinovis (Ita) 193 Unai Etxebarria (Ven)
184 Angelo Furlan (Ita) 194 Iker Flores (Spa)
185 Andrei Grivko (Ukr) 195 David Herrero (Spa)
186 Maxim Iglinski (Kaz) 196 Inaki Isasi (Spa)
187 Jörg Ludewig (Ger) 197 Inigo Landaluze (Spa)
188 Rafael Nuritdinov (Uzb) 198 Egoi Martinez (Spa)
189 Alessandro Vanotti (Ita) 199 Haimar Zubeldia (Spa)
Ag2r-Prevoyance
201 Jean-Patrick Nazon (Fra)
202 Mikel Astarloza (Spa)
203 Sylvain Calzati (Fra)
204 Samuel Dumoulin (Fra)
205 Simon Gerrans (Aus)
206 Stéphane Goubert (Fra)
207 Yuriy Krivtsov (Ukr)
208 Nicolas Portal (Fra)
209 Ludovic Turpin (Fra)
formatting sucks but you get the idea. edit - forgot to mention chris horner
Start list
Updated July 1, believed to be final.
Discovery Channel T-Mobile Team
1 Lance Armstrong (USA) 11 Jan Ullrich (Ger)
2 Jose Azevedo (Por) 12 Giuseppe Guerini (Ita)
3 Manuel Beltran (Spa) 13 Matthias Kessler (Ger)
4 George Hincapie (USA) 14 Andreas Klöden (Ger)
5 Benjamin Noval (Spa) 15 Daniele Nardello (Ita)
6 Pavel Padrnos (Cze) 16 Stephan Schreck (Ger)
7 Yaroslav Popovych (Ukr) 17 Oscar Sevilla (Spa)
8 Jose Luis Rubiera (Spa) 18 Tobias Steinhauser (Ger)
9 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) 19 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz)
Team CSC Illes Balears-Caisse d'Epargne
21 Ivan Basso (Ita) 31 Francisco Mancebo (Spa)
22 Kurt-Asle Arvesen (Nor) 32 José Luis Arrieta (Spa)
23 Bobby Julich (USA) 33 David Arroyo (Spa)
24 Giovanni Lombardi (Ita) 34 Daniel Becke (Spa)
25 Luke Roberts (Aus) 35 Isaac Gálvez (Spa)
26 Carlos Sastre (Spa) 36 Jose Vicente García Acosta (Spa)
27 Nicki Sörensen (Den) 37 Vladimir Karpets (Rus)
28 Jens Voigt (Ger) 38 Alejandro Valverde (Spa)
29 David Zabriskie (USA) 39 Xabier Zandio (Spa)
Davitamon-Lotto Rabobank
41 Robbie McEwen (Aus) 51 Denis Menchov (Rus)
42 Mario Aerts (Bel) 52 Michael Boogerd (Ned)
43 Christophe Brandt (Bel) 53 Erik Dekker (Ned)
44 Cadel Evans (Aus) 54 Karsten Kroon (Ned)
45 Axel Merckx (Bel) 55 Gerben Löwik (Ned)
46 Fred Rodriguez (USA) 56 Joost Posthuma (Ned)
47 Leon van Bon (Ned) 57 Michael Rasmussen (Den)
48 Johan Vansummeren (Bel) 58 Marc Wauters (Bel)
49 Wim Vansevenant (Bel) 59 Pieter Weening (Ned)
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61 Santiago Botero (Col) 71 Fabian Cancellara (Swi)
62 Bert Grabsch (Ger) 72 Lorenzo Bernucci (Ita)
63 Jose Enrique Gutierrez (Spa) 73 Claudio Corioni (Ita)
64 Robert Hunter (RSA) 74 Mauro Facci (Ita)
65 Nicolas Jalabert (Fra) 75 Juan Antonio Flecha (Spa)
66 Floyd Landis (USA) 76 Dario Frigo (Ita)
67 Alexandre Moos (Swi) 77 Massimo Giunti (Ita)
68 Oscar Pereiro Sio (Spa) 78 Volodimir Gustov (Ukr)
69 Steve Zampieri (Swi) 79 Kim Kirchen (Lux)
Saunier Duval-Prodir Liberty Seguros-Würth
81 Juan Manuel Garate (Spa) 91 Roberto Heras (Spa)
82 Rubens Bertogliati (Swi) 92 Joseba Beloki (Spa)
83 David Canada (Spa) 93 Alberto Contador (Spa)
84 Nicolas Fritsch (Fra) 94 Allan Davis (Aus)
85 Jose Angel Gomez Marchante (Spa) 95 Igor Gonzalez de Galdeano (Spa)
86 Chris Horner (USA) 96 Jörg Jaksche (Ger)
87 Leonardo Piepoli (Ita) 97 Luis León Sanchez (Spa)
88 Manuel Quinziato (Ita) 98 Marcos Serrano (Spa)
89 Constantino Zaballa (Spa) 99 Angel Vicioso (Spa)
Credit Agricole Liquigas-Bianchi
101 Christophe Moreau (Fra) 111 Stefano Garzelli (Ita)
102 Laszlo Bodrogi (Hun) 112 Michael Albasini (Swi)
103 Pietro Caucchioli (Ita) 113 Magnus Backstedt (Swe)
104 Patrice Halgand (Fra) 114 Kjell Carlström (Fin)
105 Sébastien Hinault (Fra) 115 Dario Cioni (Ita)
106 Thor Hushovd (Nor) 116 Mauro Gerosa (Ita)
107 Sébastien Joly (Fra) 117 Marcus Ljungqvist (Swe)
108 Andrei Kashechkin (Kaz) 118 Luciano Pagliarini (Bra)
109 Jaan Kirsipuu (Est) 119 Franco Pellizotti (Fra)
Cofidis, Le Credit Par Telephone Quick.Step
121 Stuart O'Grady (Aus) 131 Tom Boonen (Bel)
122 Stéphane Augé (Fra) 132 Wilfried Cretskens (Bel)
123 Frédéric Bessy (Fra) 133 Kevin Hulsmans (Bel)
124 Sylvain Chavanel (Fra) 134 Servais Knaven (Ned)
125 Thierry Marichal (Bel) 135 Michael Rogers (Aus)
126 David Moncoutié (Fra) 136 Patrik Sinkewitz (Ger)
127 Janek Tombak (Est) 137 Bram Tankink (Ned)
128 Cédric Vasseur (Fra) 138 Guido Trenti (USA)
129 Matthew White (Aus) 139 Stefano Zanini (Ita)
Bouygues Telecom Lampre-Caffita
141 Didier Rous (Fra) 151 Eddy Mazzoleni (Ita)
142 Walter Bénéteau (Fra) 152 Gianluca Bortolami (Ita)
143 Laurent Brochard (Fra) 153 Salvatore Commesso (Ita)
144 Pierrick Fédrigo (Fra) 154 Gerrit Glomser (Aut)
145 Anthony Geslin (Fra) 155 David Loosli (Swi)
146 Laurent Lefèvre (Fra) 156 Evgeni Petrov (Rus)
147 Jérôme Pineau (Fra) 157 Daniele Righi (Ita)
148 Matthieu Sprick (Fra) 158 Alessandro Spezialetti (Ita)
149 Thomas Voeckler (Fra) 159 Gorazd Stangelj (Slo)
Gerolsteiner Française Des Jeux
161 Georg Totschnig (Aut) 171 Bradley McGee (Aus)
162 Robert Förster (Ger) 172 Sandy Casar (Fra)
163 Sebastian Lang (Ger) 173 Baden Cooke (Aus)
164 Levi Leipheimer (USA) 174 Carlos Da Cruz (Fra)
165 Michael Rich (Ger) 175 Bernhard Eisel (Aut)
166 Ronny Scholz (Ger) 176 Philippe Gilbert (Bel)
167 Fabian Wegmann (Ger) 177 Thomas Lövkvist (Swe)
168 Peter Wrolich (Aut) 178 Christophe Mengin (Fra)
169 Beat Zberg (Swi) 179 Francis Mourey (Fra)
Domina Vacanze Euskaltel-Euskadi
181 Sergei Gonchar (Ukr) 191 Iban Mayo (Spa)
182 Alessandro Bertolini (Ita) 192 Iker Camano (Spa)
183 Alessandro Cortinovis (Ita) 193 Unai Etxebarria (Ven)
184 Angelo Furlan (Ita) 194 Iker Flores (Spa)
185 Andrei Grivko (Ukr) 195 David Herrero (Spa)
186 Maxim Iglinski (Kaz) 196 Inaki Isasi (Spa)
187 Jörg Ludewig (Ger) 197 Inigo Landaluze (Spa)
188 Rafael Nuritdinov (Uzb) 198 Egoi Martinez (Spa)
189 Alessandro Vanotti (Ita) 199 Haimar Zubeldia (Spa)
Ag2r-Prevoyance
201 Jean-Patrick Nazon (Fra)
202 Mikel Astarloza (Spa)
203 Sylvain Calzati (Fra)
204 Samuel Dumoulin (Fra)
205 Simon Gerrans (Aus)
206 Stéphane Goubert (Fra)
207 Yuriy Krivtsov (Ukr)
208 Nicolas Portal (Fra)
209 Ludovic Turpin (Fra)
07-02-2005, 06:57 AM
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Jan's Chrashed 24 hours before the tour.
The full story is at thepaceline.com but you have to register.
In sport, like in life, you just never know what can happen from one moment to the next. Well, for Jan Ullrich, widely considered Lance’s chief rival in this Tour de France, today was one of those days. One moment he was taking part in an afternoon training ride on his time trial bike behind one of the T-Mobile vehicles preparing for tomorrow’s opening stage and the next, he was blasting through the rear windshield, jeopardizing his Tour 24 hours before it would begin.
The story goes like this – Ullrich was out training on the tt bike riding just behind his team car when a truck cut off the car, forcing the driver of the car, T-Mobile’s Mario Kummer, to break suddenly. Ullrich wasn’t able to break himself and went into – and through – the rear windshield, winding up in the back of the car.
T-Mobile International Press Officer Luuc Eisenga confirmed all of this while a crowd swarmed around the T-Mobile team bus prior to the start of tonight’s official team presentation, an event that kicks off the race as all 21 teams are introduced. Eisenga said Ullrich simply couldn’t break in time and – led by his left shoulder and head – went into the windshield and through it. Eisenga could talk about this standing up because miraculously, Ullrich was unhurt, suffering some bruises and cuts to his neck. When he emerged from the bus and rolled with his teammates to the presentation, a bandage was visible on his neck and blood appeared to be seeping through. All in all, he looked fine and ready to go – amazing given the severity of the crash. Add that to the time trial crash of Armstrong last week in Nice – one that cracked his helmet in two – and sometimes simply getting to the starting line safe is underrated.
The story goes like this – Ullrich was out training on the tt bike riding just behind his team car when a truck cut off the car, forcing the driver of the car, T-Mobile’s Mario Kummer, to break suddenly. Ullrich wasn’t able to break himself and went into – and through – the rear windshield, winding up in the back of the car.
T-Mobile International Press Officer Luuc Eisenga confirmed all of this while a crowd swarmed around the T-Mobile team bus prior to the start of tonight’s official team presentation, an event that kicks off the race as all 21 teams are introduced. Eisenga said Ullrich simply couldn’t break in time and – led by his left shoulder and head – went into the windshield and through it. Eisenga could talk about this standing up because miraculously, Ullrich was unhurt, suffering some bruises and cuts to his neck. When he emerged from the bus and rolled with his teammates to the presentation, a bandage was visible on his neck and blood appeared to be seeping through. All in all, he looked fine and ready to go – amazing given the severity of the crash. Add that to the time trial crash of Armstrong last week in Nice – one that cracked his helmet in two – and sometimes simply getting to the starting line safe is underrated.
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07-02-2005, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Beelzebub
We will see in about 1 1/2 hours
Come on Jan, I've waited too long to see you beat him and this is your last chance, du dummer Sack.
07-02-2005, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Astroboy
Lance will win, i hope to see Ullrich compete hard tho, i enjoy his style.
Tomorrow is teh day, i can't fucking wait!!!!!!!!!!
Tomorrow is teh day, i can't fucking wait!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with you. I love the way he pushes that bike.
07-02-2005, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by FastAcura
Ullrich is about to waste Armstrong in the first time trial.
wonder how bad ullrich is hurting from his crash?can't believe armstrong pulled out of his cleat. cost him the race.
o well, LA has already put some significant time on the main rivals.
anyone catch bob roll's commercial?
great ride by zab!! go usa!
07-02-2005, 01:27 PM
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I can't believe I can't watch this on tv, it's killing me!!!!
Anyone have a location on the net of a live audio or video feed? I can't seem to find one on Eurosport or OLN this year.
Anyone have a location on the net of a live audio or video feed? I can't seem to find one on Eurosport or OLN this year.
07-02-2005, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BadBadNeil
I can't believe I can't watch this on tv, it's killing me!!!!
Anyone have a location on the net of a live audio or video feed? I can't seem to find one on Eurosport or OLN this year.
Anyone have a location on the net of a live audio or video feed? I can't seem to find one on Eurosport or OLN this year.
I have only been asking them for it 3 times a year for the past 4 years.
07-02-2005, 06:17 PM
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I've been bugging mine too, as well as sending emails to oln and discovery channel. Discovery channel said OLN has the rights till 2006. I can get OLN but I'd have to order digital cable and then order an outdoor package just to get it. I wish I could just buy the single channel for a month and be done with it.
07-02-2005, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike
i don't know. ullrich rode a good TT. he's looking pretty lean to me.
07-02-2005, 07:05 PM
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what a prologue!
i can't believe Lance passed Jan like that, god damn that has to hurt the pride.
really too bad Lance pulled out of his cleat, but I don't feel that it made a difference at the end of the day. He slowed considerably once he had passed Ullrich, why waste himself on someone who will slide back the moment the hills arrive.
can't wait for tomorrow morning
i can't believe Lance passed Jan like that, god damn that has to hurt the pride.
really too bad Lance pulled out of his cleat, but I don't feel that it made a difference at the end of the day. He slowed considerably once he had passed Ullrich, why waste himself on someone who will slide back the moment the hills arrive.
can't wait for tomorrow morning
07-02-2005, 11:36 PM
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Fuckin' Frogs. 
French authorities deny involvement
Reuters
NOIRMOUTIER, France -- Six-time Tour de France champion Lance Armstrong underwent a surprise doping test at his hotel on Friday afternoon, a control which raised questions as the American was the only rider to be tested.
Tour organizers confirmed on Saturday, at the start of the 19-km first stage time trial to the island of Noirmoutier, that the American had undergone blood and urine testing in his team's technical area in the car park of the Discovery Channel team hotel in Nantes.
The Texan was the only rider to be tested a second time, two days after blood testing on all 189 Tour starters.
A stone-faced Armstrong told journalists he had been random tested six times out of competition this season and added he was under the impression the test had been monitored by the French sports ministry.
But French sports minister Jean-Francois Lamour said on Saturday in Noirmoutier that his agencies were not behind the random test.
"There is an agreement between Tour organizers ASO, the International Cycling Union and the ministry for random testing and the decision to test a rider is made by a medical commission," Lamour said.
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NOIRMOUTIER, France -- Six-time Tour de France champion Lance Armstrong underwent a surprise doping test at his hotel on Friday afternoon, a control which raised questions as the American was the only rider to be tested.
Tour organizers confirmed on Saturday, at the start of the 19-km first stage time trial to the island of Noirmoutier, that the American had undergone blood and urine testing in his team's technical area in the car park of the Discovery Channel team hotel in Nantes.
The Texan was the only rider to be tested a second time, two days after blood testing on all 189 Tour starters.
A stone-faced Armstrong told journalists he had been random tested six times out of competition this season and added he was under the impression the test had been monitored by the French sports ministry.
But French sports minister Jean-Francois Lamour said on Saturday in Noirmoutier that his agencies were not behind the random test.
"There is an agreement between Tour organizers ASO, the International Cycling Union and the ministry for random testing and the decision to test a rider is made by a medical commission," Lamour said.
07-02-2005, 11:43 PM
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Maybe the officials that keeping thinking he is taking drugs should have watched the discovery channel special on the physiology of Lance Armstrong. Unless there is specific knowledge of him taking drugs he shouldn't be singled out like this.
07-03-2005, 12:20 AM
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i can't believe how poorly Iban Mayo did today.....so much for him again this year.
07-03-2005, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BadBadNeil
I can't believe I can't watch this on tv, it's killing me!!!!
Anyone have a location on the net of a live audio or video feed? I can't seem to find one on Eurosport or OLN this year.
Anyone have a location on the net of a live audio or video feed? I can't seem to find one on Eurosport or OLN this year.
http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/..._evt7203.shtml
