vybzkartel

yo dawg, iz this shite fo real?
Looks doctered to me.

Junkster

That's classic...

Now that the fines and suspension have been dealt to the players, what about the fans involved? I'm waiting for that punk ass kid to get what he deserves... a year ban from NBA games and maybe some criminal charges.

It's like what Maurice Taylor of the Rockets said the other night... why are the players the only ones being charged with criminal charges as well as NBA fines and suspensions... peeps are always say "athletes get special treatment", well, I guess that should mean that fans should also receive equal treatment.

Nonetheless, I still believe the behavior by the fans was just as horrid as the players.

Junkster, who wants those PWN3D pics of the kid when Artest is charging him

darrinb

# Pacers forward Ron Artest has been suspended for the remainder of the season.
# Indiana guard Stephen Jackson has been suspended for 30 games.
# Pacers forward Jermaine O’Neal has been suspended for 25 games.
# Indiana guard Anthony Johnson has been suspended for five games.
# Detroit forward/center Ben Wallace has been suspended for six games.
# Pistons forwards Elden Campbell and Derrick Coleman and guard Chauncey Billups have each been suspended for one game for leaving the bench during an on-court altercation.
# Indiana guard Reggie Miller has been suspended for one game for leaving the bench during an on-court altercation.

Junkster

Notice how the one person that you would suspect to get suspended in such a fight is missing...

Rasheed has become such a good citizen now.

Junkster, who thinks all the players have gotten what they deserved

GOOSE

Bullshit. Can you imagine if a guy like Tim Duncan or Grant Hill was in Artests' exact position? Would they charge the stands? No, they would probably get up, shake themselves off, point out the guy to security, and get back on the court.

And you can't compare this to a situation on the street where a guy throws a beer at you. It is obviously different.

darrinb

i am bit dissapointed at the suspensions, i was expecting longer suspensions for oneal and jackson

JaDia4

I recently had a an incident at work with a subordinate who is a notorious dirtbag. There is guy I work with who is well know for being cheap and low class. Because I was pretty much disgusted with him and I'd gotten complaints from other subordinates, I respectfully and privately confronted him about it. He got pissed and walked away. A few minutes later he comes back with 5 $1 bills which he slapped in one guys chest and he threw with another bill in my face. Which I obviously was pissed about but when he stood over me (I was sitting in a chair) and tried to stare me down I lost it and I stood up to him face-to-face. A couple of co-workers separated us, and I told him to stay clear of me. When I said that he actually stepped toward me, so i grabbed him by the collar and was ready to commence the slobberknocking. But luckily we were separated again. Once I had a chance to calm down, I felt like sh!t because I let myself be baited by that sh!tbag. But before I even stood up, the thought went through my mind that just by standing up in his face this could get progressively worse. But I also thought there was no way I could let this dude do that to me, and that he should understand that doing that kind of sh!t could get his ass beat. The point I'm trying to make is even mild mannered people can lose it, and sometimes they have to stand up just to make sure others know there are "consequences and repercussions". You're also asking alot of people to take that kind of treatment, and remain cool.

GOOSE

[QUOTE=Beelzebub]This whole thing is a disgrace.
I don't care if you get a beer throne in your face, that is no right to go into the stands and beat the crap out of the person you "THINK" did it. If I had a beer throne on me and then proceeded to beat him up. I would probably spend the night in jail.

QUOTE]

Triple

If a guy on the street threw a beer at you (which is a bad comparison to make to begin with, because an NBA game is a totally different scenario) and you punch him, there will be consequences for your actions.

I think all the suspensions are justified and appropriate. I actually would have like to see O'neal and Jackson get longer suspensiions, but overall, pretty good.

Man do those guys on ESPN's "Shootaround" crew look silly now. David Stern apparently didn't agree with them one bit. I can't believe they were throwing around "10 game" suspension for Artest.

JaDia4

[QUOTE=Beelzebub]Call security.
QUOTE]
I bet they will now!

GOOSE

Although Artest started it, O'neal and Jackson weren't too far off. They hit fans for crying out loud, and O'neal's was a total sucker punch, uncalled for.

Jackson and O'neal shoulda gotten like 50 games each.

JaDia4

QUOTE]
Man do those guys on ESPN's "Shootaround" crew look silly now. David Stern apparently didn't agree with them one bit. I can't believe they were throwing around "10 game" suspension for Artest.[/QUOTE]

They're all former players....

Beelzebub

I'm just waiting for the lawsuits to start for beating up the wrong person

Maximized

Artest got what he deserved. He is a black eye to the NBA. Stern should have put a clause in the suspension for a review at the end of the season that could ban him permanently from the leauge. Hopefully the man gets charged with battery and disorderly conduct and sued by fan he incorrectly attacked. His rap record better sell well cause he isn't getting his NBA money this year.

JaDia4

Junkster, who doesn't know that most of Rasheed's problems have come from arguing, not fighting.

darrinb

steven a. smith is the biggest fool, saying their actions were justified

Junkster

True... I just figured if there was one crazy man on the court besides Artest, it would have been Rasheed.

I've read that Rasheed off the court is a really nice guy and does alot of community work for Portland as well as Detroit.

Junkster, who just remembers the Rasheed in the Laker-Blazer days

Junkster

That loud mouth knows diddly about b-ball...

Junkster, who would prefer Peter Vescey over S A. Smith

JaDia4

Some of you guys must not realize that David Stern still has a league to market. If he penalizes the Pacers, Pistons, and the fans to harshly, he'd also be killing his own product. He's got to hammer the players, without ruining the franchise and completely turning off the fans. But those suspensions will severely hurt the Pacers in the playoffs. Though I think they still have a shot to make the playoffs because the Eastern Conference is so weak.

dets

read what he said power, he said an empty cup.

thats why.

Infamous425

eh, kobe is more of a black eye to the NBA than artest. basketball is a team game and all kobe is showing is how to ball hog and rape white chicks.

JaDia4

I'm curious what the players union will say about the suspensions and $$$$ lost. And can the players sue the NBA for the lack of security, or can the fans sue NBA for lack of security, or can the NBA sue the fans that threw cheap shots, threw bottles, and dumped beer. I believe any organization is required to provide a safe work environment. I suspect if there are suits they will be flying in many directions.

Dem1K

iTrader: (1)

1st off...Kobe doesn't ball hog, he's a team player
2nd, how do you know he raped her? Did you even follow the trial?
Third, he doesn't go around on the court looking like a fucking jackass by jumping in the stands and whooping some ass.

GOT PSI?

This is good tv for us Canadians...since there's no NHL this year...

Samer007

BTW, That was a great pistons game tonight

JaDia4

Of course he is a team player. All team players chase out the best coach in the history of the game, and the most dominant player as well, oh and don't forget how he accused Shaq of paying off alleged rape victims when questioned by police. Yep, that's the kind of guy I want on my team.

And before you THERE, I've been a Lakers fan for the last 27 years.

Also don't forget how Kobe bum rushed Reggie Miller on top of the ref's table AFTER a game!

JaDia4

$11.7 million dollars in lost wages. $5.4 to Artest alone.

KCPreki11

Excellent point Goose. That's why players like Duncan are great for the NBA and it just goes to show how much worse Artest is for the NBA.

I also though O'Neil and Jackson should've been gone for the season, they had the biggest two hits in the fight.

CLpower

players sueing for lack of security?

you mean the fans right?

darrinb

the guy that threw the cup is going to be pressed w/ charges, not just the players are being punished

UNCTYPE-S

the guy on the court that artest hit and the guy o'neal hit on the court, should def press charges.

KCPreki11

But he did have a good point tonight. Jackson should've been suspeneded for the rest of the season as well because he had no reason to go into the stands, he wasn't provoked. He also clocked that guy for no reason.

Samer007

I still dont understand WTF got into them to do something like that. They just went nutz, I understand one person went nutz but not 2 or 3 wtf

CLpower

extremely minor charges, at most he'll recieve a minor misdemeanor

thatguy

J O snuffed the shit out of that kid

Junkster

And that's the sad part of it all... this kid is gonna get a slap on the wrist. I hope that he is at least banned from games for a while.

Junkster, who wonders when the police are gonna start making charges

CLpower

he threw a half empty beer, he should get what the law states. It is Artest who w/o a doubt is to blame for the incident.

esCarbonie

its mostly the dumbass fans fault

esCarbonie

so can I go into where you work, harass you, curse at you for 48 minutes, and then when you are trying to leave can I throw beer and soda and popcorn at your face? You would be completely to blame if you took a swing at me right? because I had the right to come into where you work, I paid a cover at the front door, and you make good money so you should just pretend you're a circus clown and take it.

dont sound right does it

CLpower

Okay, one, these are proffessional athletes, they are yelled and and cursed at at almost every game they go to. 2nd, Artests reaction was to ONE SINGLE HALF EMPTY BEER getting thrown at him. That does not give him justification to run up multiple isles to attack a fan. Shit is thrown at players ALL THE TIME, does it make it right? No, does it give the player justification to rush the fan and hit him, no? Then his teammates had ZERO business going up there just swinging. The fans that were fighting back were the guys that were with the guy that got initially hit. What would you do if some player ran up and attacked a friend, you'd help him defend himself. Remember, all the other shit didn't get thrown at them until AFTER the whole incident had escalated


As I've stated, I might of done the same as artest, but would it be right? No, would I be held responsible for my actions, yes.


As stated, I have a few family friends that play pro baseball, one of the very first things they learn is to ignore the fans, shit will get thrown at them, their mothers will get called whores, that does not give them the right to attack someone.

CLpower

And to answer your question, if you came into my work and started harrassing me, i'd have you escorted from the building :P