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Old 12-22-2008, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BstonBruin
How about OHL hockey?? I wish i lived in Ontario, Quebec or BC I'd go to junior hockey games all the time
Toronto isn't a very good sports town. It is a VERY GOOD Maple Leaf town. OHL and junior hockey in the Greater Toronto area isn't very well supported. I wish I could tell you I went but truth is I've only been to junior games 2 or 3 times. And they were great, not sure why I haven't gone more often.

And you can see AHL hockey for next to nothing as well. I have two small boys. As soon as they're big enough, I'll definitely start taking them to some games.
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The Lightning and Devils are down, and Columbus, which sold out every game in the 2001-02 season, had only 10,424 fans attend a Monday night game against Anaheim. That was the smallest crowd for the Blue Jackets in the history of Nationwide Arena.
That's hilarious, the London Knights get almost that many fans out to a game and there just an OHL team.

[qoute]The Islanders are on life support as owner Charles Wang tries to get a new arena to replace the Nassau Mausoleum, which is the oldest and smallest building in the NHL. The latest rumbling is that a frustrated Wang would be willing to sell to the right bidder or, if he gets desperate, to Jim Balsillie.[/qoute]

Seems the NHL team owners really feel threatened by Balsillie, it's should be pretty clear that when the guy can afford to buy the team and move it, your not doing a very good job.

Since the ACC, tickets are too hard to get and too much money. So I don't bother even trying.
if you get a seat nowadays your either stuck beside some corporate tool that's either there to talk business with the stiffs he brought, or some douche that brought his girl cause he got some free tickets from work and she's never been to a game so he has to explain everything to her.

Things you rarely see are Dads with there boys in the lower bowl having a great time. and a bunch of the fellas having a hoot of a time.

The atmosphere in that building is like a library IMO.

Now last friday I went to a Team Canada VS. Sweeden game there where tickets were 40 bucks for anywhere in the lower bowl, and that place was like an entirely different arena, everyone was hootin' and hollerin' everytime Canada had the puck and Booin' when sweeden did anything lol.
Old 12-22-2008, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
Toronto isn't a very good sports town. It is a VERY GOOD Maple Leaf town. OHL and junior hockey in the Greater Toronto area isn't very well supported. I wish I could tell you I went but truth is I've only been to junior games 2 or 3 times. And they were great, not sure why I haven't gone more often.

And you can see AHL hockey for next to nothing as well. I have two small boys. As soon as they're big enough, I'll definitely start taking them to some games.
Yeah I wish we had good junior hockey around here. I'd pick junior hockey over AHL any day of the week, I like seeing young talented kids that you'll eventually see in the NHL one day
Old 12-22-2008, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
$11.50 for tickets that are worth hundreds?!?!?

Sure the Kings suck this year...but WOW!

I forsee big retraction of teams in the NHL next year.
Only the strong will survive...the league is overexpanded.

Do the Kings have a student ticket program? I know the rough times for the Pens there was a "Student Rush" program, in which, a hour before the game you could get best available tickets for $15. Brought in some energy and new fans.. Even the Pens use to go out to the line and bring the kids pizza, sign autographs etc. Then head back in for the game.


Now 5-10 years later they marketed themselves to a bunch of season ticket holders. Hence the 2,000 waiting list.


I just think there's better ways to use all the empty seats/tickets then to have a fire sale and piss off current season ticket holders..
Old 12-22-2008, 05:57 PM
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On that note...I hear in Minnesota you can go after the first or something and its five dollars for any seat or something like that.

here in Boston student tickets are half priced for the 56 dollar seats and the 46 dollar seats...every weeknight is student night
Old 12-22-2008, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
Do the Kings have a student ticket program? I know the rough times for the Pens there was a "Student Rush" program, in which, a hour before the game you could get best available tickets for $15. Brought in some energy and new fans.. Even the Pens use to go out to the line and bring the kids pizza, sign autographs etc. Then head back in for the game.


Now 5-10 years later they marketed themselves to a bunch of season ticket holders. Hence the 2,000 waiting list.


I just think there's better ways to use all the empty seats/tickets then to have a fire sale and piss off current season ticket holders..
Kings have a TON of different ticket programs....trouble is this is LA....there is more to life than Pro-sports.

You have to be a winner in this town for people to show up.
Granted most Kings fans are die-hards, but many years of teh suck combined with slowing economy = empty seats.
Old 12-22-2008, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S

Stay tuned....my $$ is on retraction...
This got me thinking. Since it doesn't look like the Leafs will be lousy enough to get a top 5 pick.........(another win tonight )

Dispersal Draft FTW!!!


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Jonesi, I thought student rush was $20...
Old 12-22-2008, 10:55 PM
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ok so you can pick between Sloppy Seconds or bobbyclarkelovechild
Old 12-22-2008, 10:58 PM
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lol thanks, but what'd i do?
You just stood there. All sexy and shit. Made me wanna touch my junk.
Old 12-23-2008, 12:46 AM
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ok so you can pick between Sloppy Seconds or bobbyclarkelovechild
Sloppy Seconds it is. I think I got off a bit easy.
Old 12-23-2008, 02:32 AM
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$20 bucks huh? That will cover your parking at the ACC. Maybe.
Old 12-23-2008, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Rounder
Jonesi, I thought student rush was $20...

It was $15 back when I was in school...
Old 12-23-2008, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Kings have a TON of different ticket programs....trouble is this is LA....there is more to life than Pro-sports.

You have to be a winner in this town for people to show up.
Granted most Kings fans are die-hards, but many years of teh suck combined with slowing economy = empty seats.

Just curious what programs do they have? Seems odd that they have resorted to this and piss off so many people..
Old 12-23-2008, 09:21 AM
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Anyone hear about Salami? How the hell did he cut his leg with his own skate... and now out 4-6 weeks? It must have been a deep deep cut..
Old 12-23-2008, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by herbalist
$20 bucks huh? That will cover your parking at the ACC. Maybe.
If I parked at home.
Old 12-23-2008, 10:02 AM
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So how much is average parking?
Old 12-23-2008, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by wstevens
You just stood there. All sexy and shit. Made me wanna touch my junk.
aw i feel all warm and fuzzy now
Old 12-23-2008, 10:27 AM
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Who's salami??

And fuck you derick brassard for being a dumbass.
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Originally Posted by Rounder
Who's salami??

And fuck you derick brassard for being a dumbass.

Teemu Selanne
Old 12-23-2008, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Rounder
Who's salami??

And fuck you derick brassard for being a dumbass.
Yeah well at least you didn't have him...I was getting ready to drop him anyways
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I dont know who to start today...Auld Kipper Bryzgalov Raycroft...Im thinking Bryzgalov has been hot lately and Kiprusoff even though hes playing the Ducks
Old 12-23-2008, 01:38 PM
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On the eve of their much anticipated showdown at the World Junior Championship, John Tavares has jumped out in front of Victor Hedman in the race for top spot in the 2009 NHL entry draft.

That is in somewhat stark contrast to the pre-season sentiment, when six of 10 NHL scouts polled by TSN in September said they would take the Swedish blueliner Hedman ahead of the Oshawa General sniper Tavares.

Now, the week prior to the WJC, eight of 10 scouts surveyed by TSN have Tavares ahead of Hedman.

"I'll admit it," one scout said, "I have flip-flopped. I had Hedman at No. 1 to start the season. Tavares has been exceptional this season. He's skating better, he's playing harder, he's been outstanding and that isn't to take anything away from Hedman. Hedman hasn't done anything to disappoint at all. Tavares has just stepped up. These two have separated themselves substantially from the rest of the field."

"Night and day" is how another scout compares Tavares' play from last spring's OHL playoffs to this season's efforts in the OHL and at Canada's national junior team's training camp.

"There's just a lot more intensity there," the scout added. "He's focused. He was dominant, absolutely dominant, in that (ADT Challenge) game against the Russians in St. Catharines."

Nevertheless, scouts are eager to see how each responds to the big stage at the WJC. TSN will survey the same 10 scouts after the tournament is over to see if their views have changed on the basis of WJC play.

"Both are very good prospects," another scout said. "I am sure it will be an interesting race all season long but in the end it won't surprise me if the No. 1 pick is dictated by positional preference. If the team drafting No. 1 needs a forward, it will be Tavares. But if the team drafting first needs a defenceman, it will be Hedman. It may be that basic."

The scout suggested, for example, that if the Tampa Bay Lightning – with Vinny Lecavalier, Marty St. Louis and Steven Stamkos, amongst others, up front but bereft of talent on the blueline – are picking first overall, Hedman may be the obvious choice no matter what Tavares and Hedman do the rest of this season.

What is undisputable at this point is that Tavares, with his play to this point in the season, has won over a lot of scouts.

TSN not only surveyed 10 NHL scouts on the Tavares-Hedman matchup, but also asked them for a current "if the draft were held today" ranking of draft-eligible prospects who will be playing in the WJC. Which means top prospects such as Spokane's Jared Cowen and Brampton's Matt Duchene, amongst others, were not considered or eligible for this exercise.

Ten points were awarded for a first-place vote, nine for a second-place vote and so on.

Tavares finished with 98 points, six more than Hedman's 92.

Swedish winger Magnus-Svensson Paajarvi was third with 74 points, followed by Team USA speedster Jordan Schroeder with 64 points and late Team Canada addition Evander Kane with 50 points.

Russian defenceman Dimitri Kulikov, who plays in Drummondville of the Quebec League, was sixth with 39 points. Swedish forward Jacob Josefsson was seventh with 32 points and Team Canada mighty-mite defenceman Ryan Ellis was eighth with 30.

Swedish blueliners David Rundblad and Tom Erixon (son of former NHLer Jan Erixon) rounded out the top 10 at ninth and 10th respectively with 23 and 21 points.

Finnish forward Joonas Nattinen just missed the cut, as did the other three prospects who received votes in the top 10: Swedish forward Marcus Johansson, Slovak forward Richard Panik, and Finnish blueliner Tommi Kivisto, who plays in Red Deer of the WHL.

There's no question scouts are eager to check out the draft eligible talent in this year's WJC.

The general rule of thumb is prospects can only help themselves in this event, which is to suggest it's not held against a prospect if he doesn't light it up against older, more experienced talent. But a strong performance in the WJC can vault a prospect up the rankings.
If Tampa picks first they take Hedman. No way they need another forward.
Old 12-23-2008, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
So how much is average parking?
I don't go to Leaf games so I don't really know. I pay $25 for Raptors games and that's not on ACC land. It's a 5 minute walk away.
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Is it bad that it just finally came to me that ACC means air canada centre lol
Old 12-23-2008, 04:11 PM
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Anyone hear about Salami? How the hell did he cut his leg with his own skate... and now out 4-6 weeks? It must have been a deep deep cut..
He was hit from the side awkwardly his foot got caught underneath him as he fell. I guess he took it between the pants and shin pads.
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I dont know who to start today...Auld Kipper Bryzgalov Raycroft...Im thinking Bryzgalov has been hot lately and Kiprusoff even though hes playing the Ducks
Bench them all.
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Raycroft and Bryzgalov so you can only get a maximum of one win.
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Is it bad that it just finally came to me that ACC means air canada centre lol
lol
Old 12-24-2008, 08:33 AM
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Apparently the Coyotes are are thin ice (pardon the pun) Toronto's Globe & Mail is reporting that the NHL had to loan them money and they're getting close to missing payroll.
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Apparently the Coyotes are are thin ice (pardon the pun) Toronto's Globe & Mail is reporting that the NHL had to loan them money and they're getting close to missing payroll.
maybe they'll move to Toronto. if we get a 2nd team, i can finally go to a hockey game
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WJC's are on friday on NHL Network at 3:30 and.... I forgot the other time, 7:30 maybe? USA is the first game and Canada is the 2nd game.
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WJC's are on friday on NHL Network at 3:30 and.... I forgot the other time, 7:30 maybe? USA is the first game and Canada is the 2nd game.
So besides you, Jonsei and BstonBruin who in the US is aware this tournament is starting?
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Nobody??
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Nobody??
Next to nobody...I'm just glad I finally have the NHL Network
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So besides you, Jonsei and BstonBruin who in the US is aware this tournament is starting?



Actually I know Alot of cable companies have recently finally got the NHL Network as a standard cable station. So maybe through their own advertising a few more might know.
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Jonesi, you and Black Ack are STH's, right? I'm on the waiting list for season tickets. I hope to get seats in the new arena, since my number is like 700-something and there are 2,000 more seats. Has there been any indication of how they are going to seat the current season ticket holders in the new arena?
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Jonesi, you and Black Ack are STH's, right? I'm on the waiting list for season tickets. I hope to get seats in the new arena, since my number is like 700-something and there are 2,000 more seats. Has there been any indication of how they are going to seat the current season ticket holders in the new arena?

I split season tickets with a guy I know. I'm not a season ticket owner though.. Just bought a house so that's not in the budget.. But I haven't heard anything or read anything in the paper about what they are going to do or how many will be fulfilled..
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Actually I know Alot of cable companies have recently finally got the NHL Network as a standard cable station. So maybe through their own advertising a few more might know.
TSN is all over this tournament like whiskers on a new female member.

You can't swing a dead cat without hitting something having to do with the World Juniors.

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