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Old 04-24-2008, 12:43 PM
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Cubs: Fluke or Real Deal?

Half of my friends are White Sox fans and half are Cubs fans. Since my dad and uncle are die hard Sox fans, I have allegience to the White Sox. On the other hand, my gf's brother likes the Cubs, but doesn't mind the White Sox either.

Have you guys seen the standings, my Cubs friends say that it really is the year they go all the way and break the curse. I'm thinking, they make the playoffs, but not sure if they could get to the Series. If the Cubs are really serious of winning they should've gotten 1 or 2 more really good aces to compliment Zambrano. Ted Lilly, Jason Marquis, and Ryan Dempster aren't going to cut it I think.
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I agree ... it looks like the NL Central is a tad weak but the Cubbies probably need solid years from the back end of their rotation to contend for the Series. Of course, anything can really happen in the postseason (i.e. who thought 'Zona and Colorado would be battling for the NL pennant) so just getting there is the important thing.

Can't trust Marquis/Dempster (Dempster looks like Braden Looper with St. Louis early last year .... pre-mean reversion) but Rich Hill could be a legit no. 2 or 3 if he gets his mechanics sorted out. The jury is out on Kerry Wood but if he falters, Marmol could always step in.
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Too early to say.

But, so far, they look good especially when they slapped the supposed powerhouse Mets up and down the baseball diamond in their recent series.
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Originally Posted by Mokos23
If the Cubs are really serious of winning they should've gotten 1 or 2 more really good aces to compliment Zambrano. Ted Lilly, Jason Marquis, and Ryan Dempster aren't going to cut it I think.
That is just a tad easier said than done
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
That is just a tad easier said than done
agreed...although they definitely don't have that big one-two punch like Arizona (Webb/Haren) or NY (Martinez/Santana) that you need in a 7-game series
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not sure if the Cubs would do this, but they could trade either Ramirez, Lee, or Soriano for a top ace.
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Originally Posted by Mokos23
not sure if the Cubs would do this, but they could trade either Ramirez, Lee, or Soriano for a top ace.
Dude, it's not that easy, you have to think about contracts, futures, prospects, backups. You have to have teams willing to make a trade. Aces are not so easy to come by. Plus trading one of those guys really hurts your lineup. And even that is a simple way of looking at it
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Originally Posted by PillsburyChoboy
I agree ... it looks like the NL Central is a tad weak but the Cubbies probably need solid years from the back end of their rotation to contend for the Series. Of course, anything can really happen in the postseason (i.e. who thought 'Zona and Colorado would be battling for the NL pennant) so just getting there is the important thing.

Can't trust Marquis/Dempster (Dempster looks like Braden Looper with St. Louis early last year .... pre-mean reversion) but Rich Hill could be a legit no. 2 or 3 if he gets his mechanics sorted out. The jury is out on Kerry Wood but if he falters, Marmol could always step in.


man, where have you been?
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don't forget about Dick Pole, Rusty Kuntz, Candy Maldonado, Coco Crisp, Milton Bradley, Stubby Clapp and Tuffy Rhodes
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Just wait for the Reds to turn things around...the Cubbies will be an afterthought
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^ It is impossible to turn around if you're on perma-backwards.
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
^ It is impossible to turn around if you're on perma-backwards.

You wanna talk about perma-backwards?


Who won their last World Series in 1990 and who won their last in 1908?
Old 04-24-2008, 04:11 PM
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^ Yeah?!? Why don't you just go get your Reds to sign Clemroids and STFU, huh!!?
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
^ Yeah?!? Why don't you just go get your Reds to sign Clemroids and STFU, huh!!?

We prefer to develop young talent instead of rely on washed up garbage like Marquis, Dumpster, Wood, etc.
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Originally Posted by Scottman111
We prefer to develop young talent instead of rely on washed up garbage like Marquis, Dumpster, Wood, etc.
i have to admit, your pitching prospects are ridiculous - cueto, voquez and bailey are going nuts right now
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Excellent point. Obviously the Reds are a baseball dynasty.

Originally Posted by Scottman111
You wanna talk about perma-backwards?


Who won their last World Series in 1990 and who won their last in 1908?
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Originally Posted by paz840
i have to admit, your pitching prospects are ridiculous - cueto, voquez and bailey are going nuts right now
Not to mention Votto and Bruce. Combine those guys with Phillips and Dunn and you have a solid team. Dusty needs to get off his ass
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^ Yeah, too bad Baker is notorious for being bad with young players, huh...?
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Originally Posted by paz840
i have to admit, your pitching prospects are ridiculous - cueto, voquez and bailey are going nuts right now

Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
Not to mention Votto and Bruce. Combine those guys with Phillips and Dunn and you have a solid team. Dusty needs to get off his ass

I can't believe the Rangers gave up Volquez with how their pitching situation is for a risk player like Hamilton. Only time will tell who got the best of that trade.

Dusty has been pissing me off so far. His loyalty to Patterson has been ridiculous. Last time I checked he was in an 0 for 22 slump before he replaced him. And he shouldn't be batting leadoff either with how terrible his OBP is. You have other options dude...use them!

And the whole thing about not wanting to rush Bruce is ridiculous. There's not a minor leaguer in all of baseball more ready for the pro's than him IMO.
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Originally Posted by synth19
Excellent point. Obviously the Reds are a baseball dynasty.
You know after me and Yumchucks start bitching at each other nothing makes sense

He could drive anyone to say stupid stuff


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^ Yeah, too bad Baker is notorious for being bad with young players, huh...?
I'm waiting for our young pitchers to start dropping like flies with sore arms :shakehead
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The Cubs have a lot of talent and a lot of money, but the day games will eventually catch up to them, like they always do. Plus after this weekend they'll have played 36% of their games against the Pirates and Nationals. But they do look good to make the playoffs unless their announcers start picking on them.

Now the White Sux? Fluke city that they are over .500.
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Originally Posted by IlliNorge
Now the White Sux? Fluke city that they are over .500.
Hey Squirrel-butt, how's Liriano going for you Twips, huh...??!??
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Hey Squirrel-butt, how's Liriano going for you Twips, huh...??!??
Of course he's not gonna be ready for a while, You can't miss a year and just expect to be lights out again right away.
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
Of course he's not gonna be ready for a while, You can't miss a year and just expect to be lights out again right away.

You act like Yumchucks knows anything about baseball (or sports in general)



















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I just smile thinkin the cubbies have a player named fuk u do me
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Harry woulda had a field day with that one!
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OP, the cubs have lost every game since you started this thread!

coincedence?...i think not

thanks for jinxing them
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Originally Posted by paz840
OP, the cubs have lost every game since you started this thread!

coincedence?...i think not

thanks for jinxing them
i didn't even think that. nah, they'll bounce back.
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Originally Posted by Scottman111
You act like Yumchucks knows anything about baseball (or sports in general)



















Oh. I see. That's how it is, huh?!?




MAY YOUR BELOVED BENGALS MISS THE PLAYOFFS AGAIN THIS YEAR!!! Y'HEAR ME?!??!? *shakes fist*
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wow the cubs won big last night. my friends had to remind me.
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Cubs seem for real...but, I'm waiting for the gag to be up. Just watch, Zambrano is going to injure himself picking his nose. Wood will get injured brushing his teeth. Lee will get hurt buckling his seatbelt.

Season will be over.
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well soriano is still out isn't he?
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well soriano is still out isn't he?
Yeah, okay...Soriano will get injured reading his big contract. Fukudome will get injured trying to speak English...


There.
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Yeah, okay...Soriano will get injured reading his big contract. Fukudome will get injured trying to speak English...


There.
lol about Fukudome getting injured trying to speak english.
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oh nevermind, not sure if you can get comcast sportsnet, they have a promo about cubs and white sox saying that comcast sportsnet, fan's best friend. they have fukudome saying "comcast sportsnet".
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Cubs had their best April ever. Now they go to St. Louis. They just need to go 5-1 against Chicago's minor league team again.
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Originally Posted by IlliNorge
Cubs had their best April ever. Now they go to St. Louis. They just need to go 5-1 against Chicago's minor league team again.
HEY.

That minor league team won a WS recently, mkay...!?!?





Gosh. You lose a game or two to the Twips and suddenly, the lips flap.
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Soriano's back today!

...batting leadoff (0-3 so far) ...when will Lou figure out that he's not a leadoff hitter?...Reed Johnson was doing great in the 1 spot


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