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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 10:01 AM
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Furcal going back to Atlanta, 3 years, $30 million
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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Didn't see that coming. Yunel Escobar to 2nd and trade Kelly Johnson?

http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/sha..._could_tr.html
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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decent trade bait...maybe they're back in the hunt for Peavy now that the Cubs have dropped out
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Doom878
Didn't see that coming. Yunel Escobar to 2nd and trade Kelly Johnson?

http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/sha..._could_tr.html
Possibly trade Escobar now for Peavy
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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decent trade bait...maybe they're back in the hunt for Peavy now that the Cubs have dropped out
How come the Cubs dropped out on him?
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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not sure, i think Towers just wanted too much for him and Hendry got fed up...Marquis seemed to be a big sticking point too, nobody really wanted him and the Cubs would've had to pick up most of his salary for '09

on a side note...

Cubs sign Joey Gathright
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Old Dec 18, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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Correction: Furcal staying with Dodgers: Braves accuse him of reneging on deal
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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9.5 mil before I even start work.
I would like that.

Sabathia to get $9.5 million from Yankees before season opener

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<!-- begin story body --> <!-- template inline -->NEW YORK -- CC Sabathia will receive $9.5 million from the New York Yankees before he throws his first official pitch in pinstripes.
His $161 million, seven-year contract includes a $9 million signing bonus. By the time the Yankees open at Baltimore on April 6, he already will have received $6 million of that bonus plus $3.5 million of next year's salary.
This is how it works:
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<!-- INLINE HEADSHOT (END) --> With the economy being the way it is ... the huge amount of money, it was, you know, pretty crazy.

-- CC Sabathia

<!-- PULL-QUOTE (END) --> • The signing bonus is payable in three equal installments by Dec. 31; March 1, 2009; and July 31, 2009.
• He will get a $14 million salary in 2009 and $23 million in each of the final six seasons of the deal, the largest contract ever for a pitcher both in total dollars and average salary.
While most players are paid semi-monthly during the six months of the regular season, Sabathia's salary will be paid in semi-monthly installments over all 12 months of the year. That means he will have received six payments of $583,333 before the opener.
Even Sabathia admitted this week that "with the economy being the way it is ... the huge amount of money, it was, you know, pretty crazy."
"But that's our game, I guess," he said.
Sabathia's deal calls for him to get a suite on road trips, a provision also in the contracts of several other major leaguers. He can void the contract after the 2011 season and file for free agency.
New York finalized Sabathia's contract on Thursday along with pitcher A.J. Burnett's $82.5 million, six-year agreement. Burnett receives annual salaries of $16.5 million and, like Sabathia, has a no-trade provision.
With the agreements, New York has committed about $159 million to 14 players for next year. That includes pitcher Andrew Brackman and infielder Juan Miranda, who don't figure to be on the major league roster.
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 07:49 AM
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So it looks like Boston is outbidded for Texeira and now the Angels pull out. Who's still bidding so high?
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 08:47 AM
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So it looks like Boston is outbidded for Texeira and now the Angels pull out. Who's still bidding so high?
Nationals or Orioles.

Here's hoping he takes a bit of a hometown discount. It would be a nice to CC who gets $9 million before he even zips up his pants.
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 08:51 AM
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Why are the Nats so active? They have no chance of buying a WS.
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
Why are the Nats so active? They have no chance of buying a WS.
They're breaking in a new stadium, have some money, maybe trying to show the fans they're not the Pirates?
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 09:26 AM
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i have a feeling the Red Sox or the Yankees are going to jump back into this thing eventually and throw some big money at Teixeira

...Scott Boras is too much of a greedy prick to let any of his clients take a hometown discount
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 10:13 AM
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God he has to pick between the Nats and O's? I'd take less and just go to Anaheim.
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 10:23 AM
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God he has to pick between the Nats and O's? I'd take less and just go to Anaheim.
There pitching is awful, but they would have a really good lineup with Tex.

B. Roberts
A. Jones
N. Markakis
Teixeira
A. Huff
M. Mora

That's not bad at all
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
Why are the Nats so active? They have no chance of buying a WS.
Originally Posted by IlliNorge
They're breaking in a new stadium, have some money, maybe trying to show the fans they're not the Pirates?
This is the Jim Bowden way. He doesn't care about winning (a grand total of ONE playoff appearance in 16 seasons as a GM), every time his job is in jeopardy he just signs somebody to a huge contract to get people of his back for a few more years as the team wanders aimlessly with no direction.

He's nothing but a fucking leech.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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HOLY $423MM -

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The Yankees have reached an agreement in principle to sign Mark Teixeira, SI.com has learned, beating out the rival Red Sox for the free-agent slugger's services.

Teixeira, who hit .308 with 33 home runs and 121 RBIs in 2008, will receive an eight-year, $180 million deal from the Yankees with a full no-trade provision.

The final four teams in the race to sign Teixeira were the Red Sox, Angels, Nationals and Yankees.

The Yankees quietly remained in contact with the Teixeira camp, but after spending $243.5 million on star starting pitchers CC Sabathia and A.J. Burnett, they didn't appear anxious to be the market setter.

The Red Sox threw a curveball late last week when owner John Henry announced they were no longer "going to be a factor'' following a meeting at Teixeira's Dallas-area house. But after a little while, it became clear that Henry only meant that they intended not to up their bid, not that they were pulling out of the derby entirely.

While Henry's team remained in the running, Angels owner Arte Moreno pulled out for real on Sunday, announcing they had given up the chase. Moreno had submitted a proposal believed to be for $160 million at the Winter Meetings and hadn't moved from that initial offer.

While there were rumors that the Severna Park, Md., product preferred to be on the East Coast, there never was any real evidence of that. He loved his time in Anaheim and continued to live in the Dallas area, so those suggestions may have been overplayed.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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money grows on trees in Yankee land.

wow!
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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that sucks
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by chinoz
money grows on trees in Yankee land.

wow!

I dont think theyre done yet , the team still needs to be tweaked a bit
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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Come on Mets, go get Manny
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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Dang ESPN was saying last night that Manny was going to the Yanks too. Guess not?
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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Dang ESPN was saying last night that Manny was going to the Yanks too. Guess not?
Why do you guess not? They didn't stop after Sabathia. They probably won't stop after Ramirez either.

If they keep this up it's time for either a salary cap or a plane crash.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 03:34 PM
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Why do you guess not? They didn't stop after Sabathia. They probably won't stop after Ramirez either.

If they keep this up it's time for either a salary cap or a plane crash.
Long overdue.

And holy hell if this is true
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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Eventually there will be no more baseball on the West Coast
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 09:03 PM
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Come on Mets, go get Manny
Starting pitching before Manny dude.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
Come on Mets, go get Manny
God no, yes he is a great hitter, but he is a virus in the clubhouse.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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I am a Bostonian who would love to see Manny back...
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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 07:21 AM
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God no, yes he is a great hitter, but he is a virus in the clubhouse.
But Boston has 2 rings with him.
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Originally Posted by Beelzebub
God no, yes he is a great hitter, but he is a virus in the clubhouse.
He could piss in everyone's oatmeal for all I care if he hits 46 home runs.
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Starting pitching before Manny dude.
I know...I know.
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This is interesting read of the ripple effects:

Winners and losers from Yanks' signing of Teixeira

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/...e=olney_buster

Loser: The Brewers. Part of their rationale in making the blockbuster trade for Sabathia was that at season's end, they could recoup the value of the lefty, in part, by receiving a first-round draft pick from the team that signed him. Well, because the Yankees signed Teixeira, the Brewers will now get the Yankees' pick in the second round.

Loser: The Blue Jays. . . . (edited)
Oh, and by the way: The Jays had thought that they might get a first-round pick from the loss of A.J. Burnett. Because the Yankees signed Teixeira and Sabathia, the Jays will now get the Yankees' third-round pick, instead.
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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 12:47 PM
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If it was football I'd cry. The baseball drafts are the most hit and miss of the 3 major sports.
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here are a couple of things

Dan Graziano of the Star-Ledger believes Omar Minaya has been unable to convince ownership to sign Manny Ramirez, and so the he will not be on the Mets, according to people familiar with the team’s thinking. According to Graziano, people associated with the team say, ‘If the Mets were going to get Manny Ramirez, they’d have got him in July, when he was practically free.’
Graziano says ownership didn’t want Ramirez on the team, ‘and that hasn’t changed, and it’s not about to.’
…i’m torn on ramirez…i go back and forth…i realize he is the perfect offensive solution…however, he is a lethargic defender, which is a bigger issue in the NationalLeague, and he has a dominant personality, which, while entertaining from my point of view, may not be the best way to unite a clubhouse…that said, his personality didn’t stop the Red Sox from winning two world championships and it didn’t bug the Dodgers enough to keep them from offering a two-year deal…
…i guess, for me, it’s about the commitment, because it’s hard to deny the impact he would have hitting behind David Wright, Carlos Beltran and Carlos Delgado…so, if the Mets had the ability to sign him at just one year, and didn’t, i believe that would end up being a huge mistake…two years, i would have to think about it…more than two, i’m not sure i would get involved

They need Lowe
“The Mets appear to be closing in on a deal for free-agent pitcher Derek Lowe,” reports the Boston Globe, according to a baseball source.
According to the report, ‘The deal is believed to be four years in length, or three years with a vesting option,’ and worth roughly $14-16 million per season.
John Harper of the Daily News writes that a deal could be reached between Christmas and New Year’s, according to a team source.
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here are a couple of things




They need Lowe
Yea, I agree with Cerrone on that I guess. I just would love his bat behind Wright's...Jesus
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I am a Bostonian who smokes a lot of Crack Cocaine which has hindered my good judgement and I would love to see Manny back...
Fixed
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But Boston has 2 rings with him.
And they basically gave him away and want nothing to do with him even though he's still one of the best pure hitters in the game.
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A's interested in Abreu, Anderson


It's about time Oakland goes after some decent bats!
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