2004/2005 NBA Season
11-19-2004, 03:33 PM
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Anyone see Lebron sky in last nights game? 
domn, who didn't realize Lebron had the high flying ability since he barely dispalyed it last season.
One thing is for certain, Lebron is for real, he can do it all.
domn, who didn't realize Lebron had the high flying ability since he barely dispalyed it last season.
One thing is for certain, Lebron is for real, he can do it all.
11-19-2004, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by domn
Anyone see Lebron sky in last nights game?
domn, who didn't realize Lebron had the high flying ability since he barely dispalyed it last season.
One thing is for certain, Lebron is for real, he can do it all.
domn, who didn't realize Lebron had the high flying ability since he barely dispalyed it last season.
One thing is for certain, Lebron is for real, he can do it all.
If you've watched his McDonald's All American dunk contest performance, you knew this kid had the physical attributes to take him really far.
Now it seems that he also has the work ethic and competitive spirit to match.
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11-19-2004, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by domn
Lebron > Wade > Bosh > Melo.
Wade is teh good point/shooting guard... he was a steal in the draft...
Now where's Darko?
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11-19-2004, 04:07 PM
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Although Melo > Bosh right now, I can't see Melo doing much career wise. He's a good offensive talent but his defense is lacking. Bosh will be more well rounded by the time their both in their prime. He has a greater upside.
The worse thing for Darko was ending up in Detroit. He needs to play on a loser so he can at least see the floor.
The worse thing for Darko was ending up in Detroit. He needs to play on a loser so he can at least see the floor.
11-19-2004, 04:10 PM
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BTW...
Blazers GM denies trade talks
TSN.ca Staff
11/19/2004
Portland Trail Blazers general manager John Nash denied reports that his team and the Toronto Raptors have a deal on the table, telling local newspaper The Oregonian on Friday that there are no immediate changes on the way.
"I don't have an offer. From anybody," Nash told the newspaper.
On Thursday, a Portland radio station reported that the Raptors made the Blazers an offer that would send Vince Carter and Jalen Rose to Portland for Shareef Abdur-Rahim and Derek Anderson.
Nash told the newspaper that several Blazers haven't performed to the level they have over the course of their career, but since it is only seven games into the season, there is no need to start scouring the market.
"In talking about Shareef, people are making the wrong assessment," Nash said. "Shareef has been one of the few bright spots. He is shooting over 50 percent, and his defense has been terrific. Shareef as I look at it, is not the problem, he might be the solution. So overall, people might identify Shareef as a piece that can be traded... but I don't know that our goal shouldn't be to trade one of our other players instead of Shareef."
TSN.ca Staff
11/19/2004
Portland Trail Blazers general manager John Nash denied reports that his team and the Toronto Raptors have a deal on the table, telling local newspaper The Oregonian on Friday that there are no immediate changes on the way.
"I don't have an offer. From anybody," Nash told the newspaper.
On Thursday, a Portland radio station reported that the Raptors made the Blazers an offer that would send Vince Carter and Jalen Rose to Portland for Shareef Abdur-Rahim and Derek Anderson.
Nash told the newspaper that several Blazers haven't performed to the level they have over the course of their career, but since it is only seven games into the season, there is no need to start scouring the market.
"In talking about Shareef, people are making the wrong assessment," Nash said. "Shareef has been one of the few bright spots. He is shooting over 50 percent, and his defense has been terrific. Shareef as I look at it, is not the problem, he might be the solution. So overall, people might identify Shareef as a piece that can be traded... but I don't know that our goal shouldn't be to trade one of our other players instead of Shareef."
11-19-2004, 04:18 PM
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u know i bet if all these cry babies stopped demanding to be traded from toronto the raptors would have won a championship by now.
carter-mcgrady could have been a lethal combo.
carter-mcgrady could have been a lethal combo.
11-19-2004, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by domn
Although Melo > Bosh right now, I can't see Melo doing much career wise. He's a good offensive talent but his defense is lacking. Bosh will be more well rounded by the time their both in their prime. He has a greater upside.
The worse thing for Darko was ending up in Detroit. He needs to play on a loser so he can at least see the floor.
The worse thing for Darko was ending up in Detroit. He needs to play on a loser so he can at least see the floor.
Yes, Bosh does have the potential to turn out to be a great player. He looks like he's willing to work hard for it, and just needs the right environment... okay, so the first thing to do would be to get rid of VC...
Darko, I believe, is the product of all hype and no real solid scouting. We have one here in Denver, Skitisvili... man, this guy was suppose to be the great euro small forward... instead, he's the great waste of a first round pick that sits on the bench.
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11-19-2004, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by fdl
u know i bet if all the cry babies stop demanding to be traded from toronto the raptors would have won a championship by now.
carter-mcgrady could have been a lethal combo.
carter-mcgrady could have been a lethal combo.
Plus, VC only plays half a season a year... and with the limited minutes he's getting, I'm sure his productivity this year will be the same as one of his half-seasons.
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11-19-2004, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by domn
BTW...
11-19-2004, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by fdl
I'm starting to share in that sentiment. maybe we can start a VC Sucks Ass club.
Junkster, who saw how lax of a defense VC played against the Nugs
11-19-2004, 04:34 PM
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Carters dunk of death over Weis
http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~hammo/movies/dunk.mpeg
http://jmseno.free.fr/index_a.htm
http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~hammo/movies/dunk.mpeg
http://jmseno.free.fr/index_a.htm
11-19-2004, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by fdl
u know i bet if all these cry babies stopped demanding to be traded from toronto the raptors would have won a championship by now.
carter-mcgrady could have been a lethal combo.
carter-mcgrady could have been a lethal combo.
11-20-2004, 09:08 AM
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The time to deal Carter, according to fan reaction last night at the Air Canada Centre, has indeed arrived. The 27-year-old swingman, a five-time all-star and the most famous player to wear the uniform, was roundly booed when he got the ball in the first quarter against Seattle.
The boos continued through the game, mixed with cheers after a handful of Carter baskets. He finished with 21 points and five assists as the Raptors lost 101-94 to the Seattle SuperSonics.
The boos continued through the game, mixed with cheers after a handful of Carter baskets. He finished with 21 points and five assists as the Raptors lost 101-94 to the Seattle SuperSonics.
11-20-2004, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by fdl
but as much as I may grow to hate Carter, his dunk over 7'2 Weis in the sydney olympics is still IMO the greatest basketball slam dunk ever. 
11-20-2004, 11:31 AM
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I couldnt find a pic of the Jordan dunk over Salley, but I found this:
"We were playing (the Bulls) in Detroit, and our main objective was not to let Michael dunk on us...He was coming down on offense on a break, and...I had him stopped. The next thing I know, he turns his body all wiggly-waggly. He moves his body in midair, and he lays it in on the other side of the rim. We call timeout..., and before he could say a thing, I yell at Chuck (Daly, the Detroit coach), 'Don't even yell at me! You saw him do it! You saw what he did!"
-- John Salley, recalling a game against Jordan's Bulls in the late '80s
But this is my favorite:
"We wish Jordan were 7-feet, but he isn't. There just wasn't a center available. What can you do? Jordan isn't going to turn this franchise around. I wouldn't ask him to. He's a very good offensive player, but not an overpowering offensive player."
-- Rod Thorn, then Bulls general manager, after selecting Jordan in the 1984 NBA Draft (Chicago Tribune, June 20, 1984)
"We were playing (the Bulls) in Detroit, and our main objective was not to let Michael dunk on us...He was coming down on offense on a break, and...I had him stopped. The next thing I know, he turns his body all wiggly-waggly. He moves his body in midair, and he lays it in on the other side of the rim. We call timeout..., and before he could say a thing, I yell at Chuck (Daly, the Detroit coach), 'Don't even yell at me! You saw him do it! You saw what he did!"
-- John Salley, recalling a game against Jordan's Bulls in the late '80s
But this is my favorite:
"We wish Jordan were 7-feet, but he isn't. There just wasn't a center available. What can you do? Jordan isn't going to turn this franchise around. I wouldn't ask him to. He's a very good offensive player, but not an overpowering offensive player."
-- Rod Thorn, then Bulls general manager, after selecting Jordan in the 1984 NBA Draft (Chicago Tribune, June 20, 1984)
11-20-2004, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by teg_to_TSX
But this is my favorite:
"We wish Jordan were 7-feet, but he isn't. There just wasn't a center available. What can you do? Jordan isn't going to turn this franchise around. I wouldn't ask him to. He's a very good offensive player, but not an overpowering offensive player."
-- Rod Thorn, then Bulls general manager, after selecting Jordan in the 1984 NBA Draft (Chicago Tribune, June 20, 1984)
"We wish Jordan were 7-feet, but he isn't. There just wasn't a center available. What can you do? Jordan isn't going to turn this franchise around. I wouldn't ask him to. He's a very good offensive player, but not an overpowering offensive player."
-- Rod Thorn, then Bulls general manager, after selecting Jordan in the 1984 NBA Draft (Chicago Tribune, June 20, 1984)
even
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11-20-2004, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by teg_to_TSX
"We wish Jordan were 7-feet, but he isn't. There just wasn't a center available. What can you do? Jordan isn't going to turn this franchise around. I wouldn't ask him to. He's a very good offensive player, but not an overpowering offensive player."
-- Rod Thorn, then Bulls general manager, after selecting Jordan in the 1984 NBA Draft (Chicago Tribune, June 20, 1984)
-- Rod Thorn, then Bulls general manager, after selecting Jordan in the 1984 NBA Draft (Chicago Tribune, June 20, 1984)
I remember that quote by Rod Thorn. I wonder if he ever wants to take it back.
11-21-2004, 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by goose25
Michael Jordan did an even more impressive dunk over John Salley of the Detroit Pistons. If they ever show that baby on ESPN Classics, you'll see what i mean. I think the most impressive dunk i've ever seen was in the 1987 Slam Dunk Contest when Michael Jordan did his Superman dunk and took off like the Man of Steel and dunked while going sideways. You've gotta see it to believe it.
I'll have to check out that Jordan over salley dunk.
11-21-2004, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DEI99662
IMO, I think Dominique Wilkens was the best dunker during a game.
11-21-2004, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by goose25
Nique indeed had some nasty dunks during games, but how many did he have during the NBA Finals???
I will say zero, but how many has VC had?
11-21-2004, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by DEI99662
I will say zero, but how many has VC had?
11-21-2004, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by fdl
Carters dunk of death over Weis
http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~hammo/movies/dunk.mpeg
http://jmseno.free.fr/index_a.htm
http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~hammo/movies/dunk.mpeg
http://jmseno.free.fr/index_a.htm
Best ownage dunk.
11-21-2004, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by goose25
I will say zero, also. Dunks are nice especially when you posterize someone, but i think it's much nicer to win a ring, or at least get to the Finals where you have a chance to win one.
But I doubt VC will ever get to the finals, unless he changes his attitude.
11-22-2004, 07:54 AM
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Raptors overcame the biggest 4th quater defiicit in franchise history yesterday (19 points) to come back and beat the Spurs 96-91. And VC and Jalen were on the bench for the entire 4th quarter.
Vince Carter is only a few more bad games away from losing his starting spot.
domn, who really likes new coach Sam Mitchell.
Vince Carter is only a few more bad games away from losing his starting spot.
domn, who really likes new coach Sam Mitchell.
11-22-2004, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by iamhomin
iamhomin, who'd be happy to see VC in a knicks uniform
Why? If anything, every other NBA city should hope and pray they don't end up with VC.
11-22-2004, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by domn
Raptors overcame the biggest 4th quater defiicit in franchise history yesterday (19 points) to come back and beat the Spurs 96-91. And VC and Jalen were on the bench for the entire 4th quarter.
Vince Carter is only a few more bad games away from losing his starting spot.
domn, who really likes new coach Sam Mitchell.
Vince Carter is only a few more bad games away from losing his starting spot.
domn, who really likes new coach Sam Mitchell.
11-22-2004, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by domn
Why? If anything, every other NBA city should hope and pray they don't end up with VC.
iamhomin, who thinks Craw, Mar, Car, Kurt, and Mohammed + Houston sounds much more solid than Craw, Mar, Tim, Kuty, and Mohammed + Houston.
11-22-2004, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by domn
Raptors overcame the biggest 4th quater defiicit in franchise history yesterday (19 points) to come back and beat the Spurs 96-91. And VC and Jalen were on the bench for the entire 4th quarter.
Vince Carter is only a few more bad games away from losing his starting spot.
domn, who really likes new coach Sam Mitchell.
Vince Carter is only a few more bad games away from losing his starting spot.
domn, who really likes new coach Sam Mitchell.