2004/2005 NBA Season
#81
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Originally Posted by iamhomin
He would've been the same player, but in terms of accomplishments, it would've been a lot less.
Every star player needs a right hand, regardless of how great he is.
Every star player needs a right hand, regardless of how great he is.
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Originally Posted by iamhomin
He would've been the same player, but in terms of accomplishments, it would've been a lot less.
Every star player needs a right hand, regardless of how great he is.
Every star player needs a right hand, regardless of how great he is.
...ok went too far there!
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Who would have been Jordan's partner is Pippen wasn't there? Maybe Sir Charles? Nah...
#83
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Originally Posted by teg_to_TSX
Who would have been Jordan's partner is Pippen wasn't there? Maybe Sir Charles? Nah...
#84
Originally Posted by teg_to_TSX
Yeah, and Jordan became a great right hand player for Pip!
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Who would have been Jordan's partner is Pippen wasn't there? Maybe Sir Charles? Nah...
...ok went too far there!
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Who would have been Jordan's partner is Pippen wasn't there? Maybe Sir Charles? Nah...
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iamhomin, who got scared everytime Pippen's face was on the screen (also Ewing).
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Originally Posted by teg_to_TSX
...actually I have a large nose too. ![Sad](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/sad.gif)
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But Pippen's nose was really eye-catching.
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Does that look like Pippen? hahaha, okay enough.
#87
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Originally Posted by iamhomin
iamhomin, who got scared everytime Pippen's face was on the screen (also Ewing).
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Originally Posted by DEI99662
Ewings nose wasnt as big as Pippen's, but his nostrils were quite large.
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Originally Posted by goose25
These two players have comparable stats, which one do you think is the better deal for his respective team?
Carlos Boozer stats:
Salary:
2004/05 - $10,967,500 2005/06 - $11,593,816 2006/07 - $11,593,816
2007/08 - $11,593,816 2008/09 - $11,593,817 2009/10 - $12,657,233
Stats with Cleveland Cavaliers
02 - 03 PPG - 10.0 Rebounds - 7.5 Blocks - .62
03 - 04 PPG - 15.5 Rebounds - 15.5 Blocks - .73
Kenyon Martin:
Yearly Salary:
2004/05 - $11,000,000 2005/06 - $10,687,500 2006/07 - $11,875,000
2007/08 - $13,062,500 2008/09 - $14,250,000 2009/10 - $15,437,500
2010/11 - $16,625,000
Previous stats with NJ Nets
00 - 01 PPG - 12.0 Rebounds - 7.40 Blocks - 1.66
01 - 02 PPG - 14.9 Rebounds - 5.30 Blocks - 1.23
02 - 03 PPG - 16.7 Rebounds - 8.30 Blocks - .91
03 - 04 PPG - 16.7 Rebounds - 9.50 Blocks - 1.26
Carlos Boozer stats:
Salary:
2004/05 - $10,967,500 2005/06 - $11,593,816 2006/07 - $11,593,816
2007/08 - $11,593,816 2008/09 - $11,593,817 2009/10 - $12,657,233
Stats with Cleveland Cavaliers
02 - 03 PPG - 10.0 Rebounds - 7.5 Blocks - .62
03 - 04 PPG - 15.5 Rebounds - 15.5 Blocks - .73
Kenyon Martin:
Yearly Salary:
2004/05 - $11,000,000 2005/06 - $10,687,500 2006/07 - $11,875,000
2007/08 - $13,062,500 2008/09 - $14,250,000 2009/10 - $15,437,500
2010/11 - $16,625,000
Previous stats with NJ Nets
00 - 01 PPG - 12.0 Rebounds - 7.40 Blocks - 1.66
01 - 02 PPG - 14.9 Rebounds - 5.30 Blocks - 1.23
02 - 03 PPG - 16.7 Rebounds - 8.30 Blocks - .91
03 - 04 PPG - 16.7 Rebounds - 9.50 Blocks - 1.26
I think Derek Fisher should be in that category also.
He is getting what? over $40 mil? I mean he is a pretty solid player, because!!!!!~~~
Kobe & Shaq was there with him!! I think he shouldn't get any more than $15 mil.
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Originally Posted by Junkster
This season is hella fun already...
Spree, saying that 14 mil a year can't "feed my family"... yea, that's great spree, way to earn sympathy...
The big ticket is a monster...
Utah... you could put fifth graders on the floor, Sloan will make them a contender...
Shaq... the new toy at Miami, looks pretty good.
Orlando is gonna surprise peeps... ba'leed dat, playboi!!!
Celtics = teh suxor
Texas is the nastiest b-ball state...
Junkster, who is gettin into it
Spree, saying that 14 mil a year can't "feed my family"... yea, that's great spree, way to earn sympathy...
The big ticket is a monster...
Utah... you could put fifth graders on the floor, Sloan will make them a contender...
Shaq... the new toy at Miami, looks pretty good.
Orlando is gonna surprise peeps... ba'leed dat, playboi!!!
Celtics = teh suxor
Texas is the nastiest b-ball state...
Junkster, who is gettin into it
Spree is whining about $ 14 Mil? can't feed his family!? what the fuck! then stop buying those lambos!!!!!!!!!!!!
Orlando is sick!! Steve Franchise is the man. Did you see that dunk!!? did you see that!!?
damn...and as long as Mr. Hill stays healthy this team is gonna be fun team to watch.
Never liked Celtics except my man Paul Pierce.
Creaminster, who loves basketball sooooooo much. (Sorry Junkster I took your phrase)
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Originally Posted by goose25
![](http://www.nba.com/media/bulls/hinrich_pippen_041004.jpg)
Pippen's Accomplishments
# Six-time NBA World Champion (1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997 and 1998)
# Name is scattered across the NBA’s all-time leader board: 40th in total points (18,940), fourth in steals (2,307), tied for 16th in steals per game (1.96), 23rd in assists (6,135), 13th in minutes (41,069), 16th in minutes per game (34.9), 32nd in three-point field goals made (978)
# Participated in postseason play in 16 of his 17 NBA seasons, making the playoffs in each of his first 16 seasons
# Second in NBA history with 208 playoff appearances (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, 237)
# Member of the NBA All-Defensive Team from 1991-2000 (First Team member seven times)
# Selected as one of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History in 1996
# Seven-time NBA All Star (1990, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996 and 1997)
# 1994 All-Star Game MVP
# Made All-NBA seven straight years (1992-1998)
# Two-time Olympic gold medal winner
# Has recorded 20 career triple-doubles, including four in the playoffs
# Ranked atop the all-time All-Star Game leader board in 3FGA with 22 (second), 3FG made with 7 (tied for 4th) and steals with 17 (eighth)
# Career highs of 47 points, 18 rebounds, 15 assists, 9 steals and 5 blocked shots
# Ranked first in Bulls history with 664 three-pointers and 2,031 three-point field goals attempted
# Ranked second in Bulls history in: points (15,123), field goals (5,991), field goal attempts (12,444), free throws attempted (3,576), offensive rebounds (1,687), defensive rebounds (4,039), assists (4,494), steals (1,792), seasons played (12), games played (856) and minutes (30,269)
# Ranked third in Bulls history with 5,726 rebounds and 774 blocked shots
![](http://www.nba.com/media/bulls/pippen_jordan2_041004.jpg)
I recently bought a "Chicago Bulls 1990's" oh man, Scottie plays like LeBron James + Carmelo Anthony + Ron Artest ( Defense ), If I had to pick 10 greatest players in NBA he should probably in there right after Barkely. I think Socttie was even better player than Dominique...just my thought.
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Originally Posted by Creaminz
I think Socttie was even better player than Dominique...just my thought.
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Scottie played defense and Dominique never did. He played offense and thats it.
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Scottie played defense and Dominique never did. He played offense and thats it.
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#96
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Originally Posted by goose25
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#97
Originally Posted by Creaminz
speaking of overrated salary.
I think Derek Fisher should be in that category also.
He is getting what? over $40 mil? I mean he is a pretty solid player, because!!!!!~~~
Kobe & Shaq was there with him!! I think he shouldn't get any more than $15 mil.
I think Derek Fisher should be in that category also.
He is getting what? over $40 mil? I mean he is a pretty solid player, because!!!!!~~~
Kobe & Shaq was there with him!! I think he shouldn't get any more than $15 mil.
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What's with them raptors?! No one saw this coming... although we'll have to wait and see if VC can play a whole season for once in his life. Laren Woods is playing well, it seems. Good to hear that.
Junkster, whose Nuggets are hella pissing him off
Junkster, whose Nuggets are hella pissing him off
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Originally Posted by Junkster
What's with them raptors?! No one saw this coming... although we'll have to wait and see if VC can play a whole season for once in his life.
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I don't know about ya fellas, but I don't pay any attention to NBA anymore these days.. I used to be a super NBA fan, but I think the quality of the players (entertainment values) have gone down in recent years and it doesn't help the fact that they make bazillion dollars and still whine about the $$$.
As a group, they're probably the least professional of the professional athletes we have today and I can not respect people who are just a primadonnas..
As a group, they're probably the least professional of the professional athletes we have today and I can not respect people who are just a primadonnas..
#102
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Originally Posted by sipark
As a group, they're probably the least professional of the professional athletes we have today and I can not respect people who are just a primadonnas..
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#103
Originally Posted by sipark
I don't know about ya fellas, but I don't pay any attention to NBA anymore these days.. I used to be a super NBA fan, but I think the quality of the players (entertainment values) have gone down in recent years and it doesn't help the fact that they make bazillion dollars and still whine about the $$$.
As a group, they're probably the least professional of the professional athletes we have today and I can not respect people who are just a primadonnas..
As a group, they're probably the least professional of the professional athletes we have today and I can not respect people who are just a primadonnas..
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In that case, what about NFL? MLB? NHL?
#105
Eastern Conference
W L PCT GB HM RD CONF DIV PF PA STRK L10
Miami 3 0 1.000 - 1-0 2-0 3-0 1-0 103.3 89.7 Won 3 3-0
Toronto 3 0 1.000 - 3-0 0-0 1-0 0-0 99.0 91.3 Won 3 3-0
Indiana 3 0 1.000 - 1-0 2-0 3-0 2-0 103.0 96.0 Won 3 3-0
Washington 2 1 .667 1 0-1 2-0 1-1 1-1 104.0 101.7 Lost 1 2-1
Orlando 2 1 .667 1 1-0 1-1 1-1 0-1 94.3 97.3 Lost 1 2-1
Detroit 2 1 .667 1 2-0 0-1 1-1 0-0 91.7 90.3 Won 1 2-1
Charlotte 1 1 .500 1 ½ 1-1 0-0 1-1 1-1 103.5 101.5 Won 1 1-1
Milwaukee 1 1 .500 1 ½ 1-0 0-1 1-1 1-0 97.0 90.5 Won 1 1-1
Philadelphia 1 2 .333 2 0-1 1-1 1-1 1-0 95.7 100.7 Lost 2 1-2
New Jersey 1 2 .333 2 0-2 1-0 1-1 0-0 89.3 106.0 Lost 1 1-2
Boston 1 2 .333 2 0-2 1-0 1-2 1-1 98.7 90.3 Won 1 1-2
Atlanta 0 2 .000 2 ½ 0-0 0-2 0-0 0-0 83.5 109.0 Lost 2 0-2
Chicago 0 2 .000 2 ½ 0-1 0-1 0-2 0-1 98.0 105.5 Lost 2 0-2
New York 0 2 .000 2 ½ 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 83.0 103.0 Lost 2 0-2
Cleveland 0 3 .000 3 0-1 0-2 0-3 0-2 92.7 101.0 Lost 3 0-3
Western Conference
W L PCT GB HM RD CONF DIV PF PA STRK L10
Dallas 3 0 1.000 - 2-0 1-0 3-0 2-0 108.3 92.3 Won 3 3-0
Utah 3 0 1.000 - 1-0 2-0 3-0 1-0 104.0 80.0 Won 3 3-0
Phoenix 3 0 1.000 - 1-0 2-0 0-0 0-0 110.7 86.7 Won 3 3-0
San Antonio 2 0 1.000 ½ 1-0 1-0 2-0 0-0 103.0 90.5 Won 2 2-0
Minnesota 2 1 .667 1 2-0 0-1 1-1 0-1 96.7 93.0 Won 1 2-1
Portland 2 1 .667 1 1-0 1-1 2-0 0-0 89.7 85.7 Lost 1 2-1
LA Clippers 2 1 .667 1 1-0 1-1 2-1 1-0 96.3 88.0 Won 1 2-1
Seattle 1 1 .500 1 ½ 1-0 0-1 0-1 0-0 95.0 99.5 Won 1 1-1
Houston 2 2 .500 1 ½ 1-0 1-2 2-0 1-0 90.0 91.0 Won 2 2-2
Denver 1 2 .333 2 1-1 0-1 1-2 1-1 84.7 95.7 Lost 1 1-2
LA Lakers 1 2 .333 2 1-1 0-1 1-2 0-0 87.7 95.7 Lost 2 1-2
Memphis 0 3 .000 3 0-2 0-1 0-2 0-2 86.7 101.3 Lost 3 0-3
New Orleans 0 3 .000 3 0-2 0-1 0-2 0-1 90.7 98.3 Lost 3 0-3
Sacramento 0 3 .000 3 0-0 0-3 0-3 0-0 94.7 104.0 Lost 3 0-3
Golden State 0 3 .000 3 0-3 0-0 0-3 0-1 80.3 91.3 Lost 3 0-3
Miami was obvious, but what the Raptors?
Here's my prediction. Raptors are going to lose 7 straight, or 9 of 12 by the end of December.
W L PCT GB HM RD CONF DIV PF PA STRK L10
Miami 3 0 1.000 - 1-0 2-0 3-0 1-0 103.3 89.7 Won 3 3-0
Toronto 3 0 1.000 - 3-0 0-0 1-0 0-0 99.0 91.3 Won 3 3-0
Indiana 3 0 1.000 - 1-0 2-0 3-0 2-0 103.0 96.0 Won 3 3-0
Washington 2 1 .667 1 0-1 2-0 1-1 1-1 104.0 101.7 Lost 1 2-1
Orlando 2 1 .667 1 1-0 1-1 1-1 0-1 94.3 97.3 Lost 1 2-1
Detroit 2 1 .667 1 2-0 0-1 1-1 0-0 91.7 90.3 Won 1 2-1
Charlotte 1 1 .500 1 ½ 1-1 0-0 1-1 1-1 103.5 101.5 Won 1 1-1
Milwaukee 1 1 .500 1 ½ 1-0 0-1 1-1 1-0 97.0 90.5 Won 1 1-1
Philadelphia 1 2 .333 2 0-1 1-1 1-1 1-0 95.7 100.7 Lost 2 1-2
New Jersey 1 2 .333 2 0-2 1-0 1-1 0-0 89.3 106.0 Lost 1 1-2
Boston 1 2 .333 2 0-2 1-0 1-2 1-1 98.7 90.3 Won 1 1-2
Atlanta 0 2 .000 2 ½ 0-0 0-2 0-0 0-0 83.5 109.0 Lost 2 0-2
Chicago 0 2 .000 2 ½ 0-1 0-1 0-2 0-1 98.0 105.5 Lost 2 0-2
New York 0 2 .000 2 ½ 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 83.0 103.0 Lost 2 0-2
Cleveland 0 3 .000 3 0-1 0-2 0-3 0-2 92.7 101.0 Lost 3 0-3
Western Conference
W L PCT GB HM RD CONF DIV PF PA STRK L10
Dallas 3 0 1.000 - 2-0 1-0 3-0 2-0 108.3 92.3 Won 3 3-0
Utah 3 0 1.000 - 1-0 2-0 3-0 1-0 104.0 80.0 Won 3 3-0
Phoenix 3 0 1.000 - 1-0 2-0 0-0 0-0 110.7 86.7 Won 3 3-0
San Antonio 2 0 1.000 ½ 1-0 1-0 2-0 0-0 103.0 90.5 Won 2 2-0
Minnesota 2 1 .667 1 2-0 0-1 1-1 0-1 96.7 93.0 Won 1 2-1
Portland 2 1 .667 1 1-0 1-1 2-0 0-0 89.7 85.7 Lost 1 2-1
LA Clippers 2 1 .667 1 1-0 1-1 2-1 1-0 96.3 88.0 Won 1 2-1
Seattle 1 1 .500 1 ½ 1-0 0-1 0-1 0-0 95.0 99.5 Won 1 1-1
Houston 2 2 .500 1 ½ 1-0 1-2 2-0 1-0 90.0 91.0 Won 2 2-2
Denver 1 2 .333 2 1-1 0-1 1-2 1-1 84.7 95.7 Lost 1 1-2
LA Lakers 1 2 .333 2 1-1 0-1 1-2 0-0 87.7 95.7 Lost 2 1-2
Memphis 0 3 .000 3 0-2 0-1 0-2 0-2 86.7 101.3 Lost 3 0-3
New Orleans 0 3 .000 3 0-2 0-1 0-2 0-1 90.7 98.3 Lost 3 0-3
Sacramento 0 3 .000 3 0-0 0-3 0-3 0-0 94.7 104.0 Lost 3 0-3
Golden State 0 3 .000 3 0-3 0-0 0-3 0-1 80.3 91.3 Lost 3 0-3
Miami was obvious, but what the Raptors?
Here's my prediction. Raptors are going to lose 7 straight, or 9 of 12 by the end of December.
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haha... Kobe Bryant: 30.3ppg, the Lakers: 1-2.
Its gonna be a frustrating season for the Fakers.
Wow.. look at the point differential for phoenix! +24!
Its gonna be a frustrating season for the Fakers.
Wow.. look at the point differential for phoenix! +24!
#107
God, another Kobe hater.
Listen, T-Mac averaged 25+ last season and his team sucked balls. KG's stats were more than amazing in terms of efficiency, but Detroit took the crown, Allen Iverson + Paul Pierce + Nowitzki all had 24+ ppg and all but one had losing records. etc.
Your argument is weak, S Pippen
Listen, T-Mac averaged 25+ last season and his team sucked balls. KG's stats were more than amazing in terms of efficiency, but Detroit took the crown, Allen Iverson + Paul Pierce + Nowitzki all had 24+ ppg and all but one had losing records. etc.
Your argument is weak, S Pippen
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I'm not saying because Kobe is scoring 30+ a game, the Lakers should win... MJ scored 35+ one season and I don't think the Bulls made the playoffs that year.
The Lakers made so many changes during the offseason, with Kobe wanting the changes, and still they have no chance of being nearly as good as they were last year. Kinda makes you wonder whats more important to him, 30ppg or wins.
The Lakers made so many changes during the offseason, with Kobe wanting the changes, and still they have no chance of being nearly as good as they were last year. Kinda makes you wonder whats more important to him, 30ppg or wins.
#109
Of course they won't be good as last year, strip Shaq off ANY team, even a team with the old MJ, and they will struggle.
I understand what you're saying, but I'm sick and tired of people bashing on Kobe. It's old.
I understand what you're saying, but I'm sick and tired of people bashing on Kobe. It's old.
#110
kobe got more game then ps2. kobe along with AI have the most heart in the league. Everyone rips on kobe cuz he got rid of phil and shaq but shoot if you had skills like kobe youd' be sick of the triangle offence and being optioin number 2. You can put mj on the old lakers and i gurantee you that him and shaq would have rifs too.
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Originally Posted by DEI99662
He probably wont. At least not with one team. I think he will be traded before the All-Star game.![2 Cents](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/2cents.gif)
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How about....Denver....for K.Mart...Me wants to see that happen
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Originally Posted by sipark
I don't know about ya fellas, but I don't pay any attention to NBA anymore these days.. I used to be a super NBA fan, but I think the quality of the players (entertainment values) have gone down in recent years and it doesn't help the fact that they make bazillion dollars and still whine about the $$$.
As a group, they're probably the least professional of the professional athletes we have today and I can not respect people who are just a primadonnas..
As a group, they're probably the least professional of the professional athletes we have today and I can not respect people who are just a primadonnas..
When players outside of the United States are still practicing their jumpers, fundamentals, and work on their teamwork, USA basketball is all about And 1, and AI's crossover and shit. I rather want to see beautiful fade away jumper over defender than dunking over other player.
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Originally Posted by teg_to_TSX
haha... Kobe Bryant: 30.3ppg, the Lakers: 1-2.
Its gonna be a frustrating season for the Fakers.
Wow.. look at the point differential for phoenix! +24!
Its gonna be a frustrating season for the Fakers.
Wow.. look at the point differential for phoenix! +24!
if Lamar keeps playing double - double games, if Brian Grant can rebound like back in 99 when he played Golden State (24 total), if Caron plays like 02-03 season when he was putting 15.4 ppg, if Vlade can stop grabbing teammates haed and grab some board...but that's too many ifs. Ah...Shaq what are you doing in Miami? oh...ye that's right...keep winning...
#114
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Originally Posted by Creaminz
He needs to get out of there...
How about....Denver....for K.Mart...Me wants to see that happen
How about....Denver....for K.Mart...Me wants to see that happen
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#115
Originally Posted by Creaminz
I want M.J, Bird back in this league...players who actually played their hearts out!
When players outside of the United States are still practicing their jumpers, fundamentals, and work on their teamwork, USA basketball is all about And 1, and AI's crossover and shit. I rather want to see beautiful fade away jumper over defender than dunking over other player.![2 Cents](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/2cents.gif)
When players outside of the United States are still practicing their jumpers, fundamentals, and work on their teamwork, USA basketball is all about And 1, and AI's crossover and shit. I rather want to see beautiful fade away jumper over defender than dunking over other player.
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#116
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Originally Posted by teg_to_TSX
I'm not saying because Kobe is scoring 30+ a game, the Lakers should win... MJ scored 35+ one season and I don't think the Bulls made the playoffs that year.
The Lakers made so many changes during the offseason, with Kobe wanting the changes, and still they have no chance of being nearly as good as they were last year. Kinda makes you wonder whats more important to him, 30ppg or wins.
The Lakers made so many changes during the offseason, with Kobe wanting the changes, and still they have no chance of being nearly as good as they were last year. Kinda makes you wonder whats more important to him, 30ppg or wins.
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Originally Posted by ks112
kobe got more game then ps2. kobe along with AI have the most heart in the league. Everyone rips on kobe cuz he got rid of phil and shaq but shoot if you had skills like kobe youd' be sick of the triangle offence and being optioin number 2. You can put mj on the old lakers and i gurantee you that him and shaq would have rifs too.
#118
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Originally Posted by goose25
They probably would have a rif, but MJ would have handled it in a different way than Kobe did. Remember that even though Jordan was selfish at times, he was always a team player and did his thing within the scheme of the triangle offense and played defense like a demon, all the time, not just when the mood hit him.
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In the early years of the triangle, MJ did ignore it. But as the supporting cast got better, and he understood the triangle better, he was able to do what he needed to do within the triangle offense. Plus, he knew when to go outside of the triangle offense when his team needed a basket.
He used his defense as a challenge to himself. If an made an important or spectacular play, MJ would make sure that didnt happen again.