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Hosting with imageshack, let me know if they're working now. Yumcha can you delete post 11079 if the below images are showing correctly?
If these work, I'll go back & do the same on the Ferrari thread.
Hosting with imageshack, let me know if they're working now. Yumcha can you delete post 11079 if the below images are showing correctly?
If these work, I'll go back & do the same on the Ferrari thread.
And just like 99% of GT-Rs over here, from Japan, they've had the shit kicked out of them and really aren't worth what people ask. Fuck that r32 looks awful with the peeling clear and shitty wheels. Bleh.
And just like 99% of GT-Rs over here, from Japan, they've had the shit kicked out of them and really aren't worth what people ask. Fuck that r32 looks awful with the peeling clear and shitty wheels. Bleh.
Guarantee you, just judging from the Japanese plate, it's some dude who's obsessed and bought the first one he could.
I learned over a year ago, with these still being relatively new to the US that they were not cars for the faint of heart b/c maintenance costs were not cheap (parts were still making their way over, there's a nice list of work you need to inspect every 1-3 years, & you generally may not want your local Nissan dealer putting the car in the hands of a young tech).
If you bring it in yourself, you can get it much cheaper from Japan, than from Canada. You'll be paying a markup if it's in Canada already.
I've never heard anything about crazy maintenance costs for the R32. Like, never. That's news to me. And there are plenty R32s around town here, in various states of disrepair
To be honest, there are some very nice units in town, but you can bet those owners paid a premium for such a car (or built a car from a relative junker, and still paid a premium to do so). Anything affordable for an 18-24 year old, you can bet is a hunk of drift taxed shit. And there are plenty of those.
However, you CAN find nice units through the Japanese auto auctions, online. I personally occasionally browse through an importer's website- http://www.b-pro.ca. He has links somewhere on his website to view the Japanese auctions, translated (poorly) into English. His fees are pretty good and he takes care of everything in order for the car to legally land in Canada and to your front door.
And just like 99% of GT-Rs over here, from Japan, they've had the shit kicked out of them and really aren't worth what people ask. Fuck that r32 looks awful with the peeling clear and shitty wheels. Bleh.
Meh, there's too much hyperbole in that. I'm not a GT-R expert by any means but this one is not a not concurs 10 but easily was a solid 7.
Not one door ding or dent anywhere, only the peeling cleat coat (maybe due to early 90's water based technology paints and clearcoats).
The wheels looks nice, the only determent was the coffee can exhaust, peeling clearcoat, and don't think R32's had drilled front rotors.
Originally Posted by Rick_TL-S
Guarantee you, just judging from the Japanese plate, it's some dude who's obsessed and bought the first one he could.
I learned over a year ago, with these still being relatively new to the US that they were not cars for the faint of heart b/c maintenance costs were not cheap (parts were still making their way over, there's a nice list of work you need to inspect every 1-3 years, & you generally may not want your local Nissan dealer putting the car in the hands of a young tech).
Perhaps, but it was not stanced and riced out. Didn't meet the owner but IMO thie owner kept a JDM classic car in fairly stock condition (on the exterior and interior).
Kinda glad there are people in the US that import these and drive them, this one looked like a DD so it was OK by me even with the minor flaws.
The aftermarket seats appear mismatched. At least the recaro lettering appears to be different for each seat, in the photo. And they look faded. The non painted lip with that homedepot mesh behind it... looks to be on the front bumper opening also. Bleh. Scuff on the front bumper. Betting there was more than just that one. Dents are one thing. But a proper repaint would easily be 6k, if not more. Wondering what kind of no name wheels those are. They're all curbed up, anyway. To me, that is not a clean car whatsoever.
And just like 99% of GT-Rs over here, from Japan, they've had the shit kicked out of them and really aren't worth what people ask. Fuck that r32 looks awful with the peeling clear and shitty wheels. Bleh.
Exactly. The plate is a Y plate, meaning it's an import by a US military person And I think the Kanji on the plate is Shizuoka Prefecture. I digress.
Most R32's I saw were pretty beat up. The young guys are suckered into buying GTS-T's and trying to sell them off as a GT-R (look similar). I bet if you pop that hood it has a 2.5L motor, not a an RB26 DETT GT-R motor. And that car looks like it has been beaten badly. And the paint peeling from the hood could indicate it had an engine fire at some point. To get them there is good shape and not raped, you're looking at $25-$50K or more. Here's a proper R32:
Perhaps, but it was not stanced and riced out. Didn't meet the owner but IMO thie owner kept a JDM classic car in fairly stock condition (on the exterior and interior).
Kinda glad there are people in the US that import these and drive them, this one looked like a DD so it was OK by me even with the minor flaws.
Did the owner do that, or did the previous owner? A ton of the examples imported always have minor modifications done b/c the importers think that will help drive the asking prices.
Originally Posted by TacoBello
I've never heard anything about crazy maintenance costs for the R32. Like, never. That's news to me. And there are plenty R32s around town here, in various states of disrepair
This was back when they first started being available for import. Costs were attributed to lack of certain parts & specialty shops who had experience with them usually having higher labor rates than your cheapo Nissano dealer.
It's likely changed, but it's still not a car to just drive & leave beat up. There was a very long list on a GT-R forum of recommended annual work for the R32 if you wanted the car running flawlessly. The costs were not crazy expensive, but it wasn't shit you'd want to cheap out/ignore for later on a car that was the complete opposite of "common".
In fact, Doug Demuro (based in Philly) bought the GT-R that he owned/drove for a year in 2015 from this same place, which also supplies spare parts and technical expertise re: servicing and maintenance.
Did the owner do that, or did the previous owner? A ton of the examples imported always have minor modifications done b/c the importers think that will help drive the asking prices.
Good question, I looked the R32 for a few minutes hoping the owner may come out (he was doing the same thing I was, buying booze for New Years ).
Wanted to ask him the about it as well.
Did the owner do that, or did the previous owner? A ton of the examples imported always have minor modifications done b/c the importers think that will help drive the asking prices.
Actually, that's not true at all. Japan is the land of a shit ton of aftermarket companies, run by true car aficionados. The entire Japanese culture is car crazy, and part of that culture (as is here) is distinguishing your ride from all others. People mod their own cars for themselves. It's not the dealers/importers who put the parts on. Often times the parts look super used and shit... they've been on those cars for years. Even look at the auctions... lots of those cars are modded.
We also need to keep in mind that they don't pay crazy shipping fees and are able to get these parts right then and there. It's effectively cheaper for them to mod.
Originally Posted by Rick_TL-S
This was back when they first started being available for import. Costs were attributed to lack of certain parts & specialty shops who had experience with them usually having higher labor rates than your cheapo Nissano dealer.
It's likely changed, but it's still not a car to just drive & leave beat up. There was a very long list on a GT-R forum of recommended annual work for the R32 if you wanted the car running flawlessly. The costs were not crazy expensive, but it wasn't shit you'd want to cheap out/ignore for later on a car that was the complete opposite of "common".
Yes, costs were attributed to a car and power train and drive train that was never available in North America. Nissan USA cannot get JDM parts for a skyline in. They aren't allowed. It's the same with Honda here. You can't get JDM parts here from a dealership. So you have to go either to the source (you'd better know Japanese), or you find someone who jacks the shit out of prices and brings these parts in themselves for you. But none of that means the R32 is unreliable. You're just forced to pay for super expensive shit because you can't get it anywhere else.
Also, this yearly maintenance... was it on stock R32s, or modded ones, putting down 450+ hp? Because those two are nowhere near the same. And there Are waaaay more modded R32s out there these days, than not.
In fact, Doug Demuro (based in Philly) bought the GT-R that he owned/drove for a year in 2015 from this same place, which also supplies spare parts and technical expertise re: servicing and maintenance.
Actually, that's not true at all. Japan is the land of a shit ton of aftermarket companies, run by true car aficionados. The entire Japanese culture is car crazy, and part of that culture (as is here) is distinguishing your ride from all others. People mod their own cars for themselves. It's not the dealers/importers who put the parts on. Often times the parts look super used and shit... they've been on those cars for years. Even look at the auctions... lots of those cars are modded.
We also need to keep in mind that they don't pay crazy shipping fees and are able to get these parts right then and there. It's effectively cheaper for them to mod.
I'm not implying they are; many of these importers go for them b/c it's an added excuse to upcharge. I've seen a share of these guys list the mods out in ads even though the general rule of them is that modifications add no value to a car. I completely get that the Japanese like to personalize their cars, but there are always several stock/near stock cars available next to modified ones. It's not the same ratio with importers here. It may be due to them knowing that even though an OEM car will bring high dollars, it'd probably cost them an equal arm and leg for a clean example over there, thus leaving it not profitable.
Yes, costs were attributed to a car and power train and drive train that was never available in North America. Nissan USA cannot get JDM parts for a skyline in. They aren't allowed. It's the same with Honda here. You can't get JDM parts here from a dealership. So you have to go either to the source (you'd better know Japanese), or you find someone who jacks the shit out of prices and brings these parts in themselves for you. But none of that means the R32 is unreliable. You're just forced to pay for super expensive shit because you can't get it anywhere else.
Also, this yearly maintenance... was it on stock R32s, or modded ones, putting down 450+ hp? Because those two are nowhere near the same. And there Are waaaay more modded R32s out there these days, than not.
I wasn't trying to imply this, either. The car runs like any other sports car as long as basic work is done. It's just that it isn't cheap work, like maintaining a Supra Turbo or NSX. People see a $20,000 example (non GT-R) w/ 70,000 miles and think they can just run it for pennies.
The list was a mixture of yearly and 2, 3, even 5 year stuff. It was intended as a check list for those who wanted a R32 but had no idea what to look for. The conclusion was if an example didn't have much of the listed work done or checked in the last couple years, it could be expensive servicing the car here in the US to bring it back to a point where you could begin knowing what was going to need replacing on a scheduled interval. In the beginning, there were apparently folks buying cars willy nilly because the importers were grabbing the cheapest examples out there that needed some lovin' due to demand.
I believe the R33 is set this year to enter into the 25-year rule as well.
Here's a (crappy cell-phone) shot of a 2015 Chevy SS in "Pefect Blue" (aka Smurf Blue; with a Holden badge on the trunk, modified taillights, and a plate that reads "LSTV81"), spotted in the wild on my morning commute today. Apologies for the $h!tty quality of the pic, taken in low light while driving....
Here are some stock photos of what the Perfect Blue actually looks like: