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Old Dec 10, 2017 | 07:58 AM
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I have a soft spot for the Caddy CTS, either the V-Sport (420HP) or the real V (640HP). Unsure that if I would trust its long term reliability. Good review here (2017).

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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 11:42 AM
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Another awesome car I don't think has been mentioned yet is the ATS-V. That thing is a party in a can and sounds fantastic.
Oft-overlooked car. I'd rock one...
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 12:27 PM
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I'm considering an ats-v, also... it's on my short list. I'm just nervous about piloting a 480hp rwd car, in the winter, regardless of how good of winter tires I can buy. But yeah, otherwise, what a sick car through and through. And the discounts on them are nuts.
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 12:50 PM
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I'm considering an ats-v, also... it's on my short list. I'm just nervous about piloting a 480hp rwd car, in the winter, regardless of how good of winter tires I can buy. But yeah, otherwise, what a sick car through and through. And the discounts on them are nuts.
This is also my concern but snow tires are pretty good getting you around and you just have to be more judicious with your right foot in the slippery stuff is all.

The discounts are always huge on these because no one buys them.
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 12:53 PM
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The discounts are always huge on these because no one buys them.
I wonder why tho? the lead up to the new ATS-V and CTS-V were going great! then all of a sudden sedan sales fell off the cliff.
well, i guess i answered my own question.

that's why their building a CUV-V
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 02:17 PM
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that's why their building a CUV-V
covfefe?
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 02:18 PM
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they're*

I find that I misspell that a lot.
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 02:23 PM
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they're*

I find that I misspell that a lot.
CUV-V
covfe-fe
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 02:27 PM
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understood.
but I misspelled their.there.they're.
I think i did it twice in this thread, and when you quoted it...the misspelling jumped out at me (sorry off topic, I know)
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 03:35 PM
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I wonder why tho? the lead up to the new ATS-V and CTS-V were going great! then all of a sudden sedan sales fell off the cliff.
well, i guess i answered my own question.

that's why their building a CUV-V
Of course they are. A CTS-V wagon with a 3" lift would sell 100000x as many units.
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Old Dec 12, 2017 | 08:49 AM
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that's why their building a CUV-V
Are they really?

I always said they should have done an SRX-V or XT5-V. Be curious to see where they go with this...
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Old Dec 12, 2017 | 08:52 AM
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Are they really?

I always said they should have done an SRX-V or XT5-V. Be curious to see where they go with this...
it was tongue in cheek; but why not? it'd be a cool idea
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If Jeep can build the trackhawk...
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Old Dec 12, 2017 | 10:21 AM
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If Jeep can build the trackhawk...
My friend Doug just drove one. He said they are crazy fast
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Old Dec 12, 2017 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
I'm considering an ats-v, also... it's on my short list. I'm just nervous about piloting a 480hp rwd car, in the winter, regardless of how good of winter tires I can buy. But yeah, otherwise, what a sick car through and through. And the discounts on them are nuts.
Originally Posted by SamDoe1
This is also my concern but snow tires are pretty good getting you around and you just have to be more judicious with your right foot in the slippery stuff is all.
^^^ this guy is genius, listen to him...

2 months after i bought the Vagon last year, i scored a set of used winter wheels... it had blizzaks with a few seasons on them but more than half tread... granted we had a mild winter last year but the snow tires definitely give you confidence when there is anything on the ground... at first i was also intimidated, holy crap 550+ hp in a RWD car in the snow... but you get used to it quick... just use your brain, use your throttle wisely and take corners cautiously... you will be fine... in the rain i have had the vagon kick out while making a turn on all season tires... the computers kick in very quickly to correct but just don't be dumb because the car isn't as forgiving...

the saying is true though... after one season with the Vagon, i'd take RWD with snow tires over an AWD with A/S...
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Old Dec 13, 2017 | 08:26 AM
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Old Dec 13, 2017 | 08:30 AM
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Old Dec 13, 2017 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by KaMLuNg
^^^ this guy is genius, listen to him...

2 months after i bought the Vagon last year, i scored a set of used winter wheels... it had blizzaks with a few seasons on them but more than half tread... granted we had a mild winter last year but the snow tires definitely give you confidence when there is anything on the ground... at first i was also intimidated, holy crap 550+ hp in a RWD car in the snow... but you get used to it quick... just use your brain, use your throttle wisely and take corners cautiously... you will be fine... in the rain i have had the vagon kick out while making a turn on all season tires... the computers kick in very quickly to correct but just don't be dumb because the car isn't as forgiving...

the saying is true though... after one season with the Vagon, i'd take RWD with snow tires over an AWD with A/S...
Yup, you can spin out a S2000 with sticky summer tires in bone dry warm conditions.

Key words for driving anything: Don't be an idiot.
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Old Dec 13, 2017 | 10:01 AM
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it was tongue in cheek; but why not? it'd be a cool idea


Got me. Thought they announced something that I missed.

Did some searching and nothing on the radar. I've been wanting this for years now, but I guess it's not a big loss. The Cayenne GTS is still on the top of my list for a high-performance SUV anyway. Doubt I'd shift to Caddy even if they offered one...
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Old Dec 13, 2017 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by juniorbean


Got me. Thought they announced something that I missed.

Did some searching and nothing on the radar. I've been wanting this for years now, but I guess it's not a big loss. The Cayenne GTS is still on the top of my list for a high-performance SUV anyway. Doubt I'd shift to Caddy even if they offered one...
ahem

https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehic...model-GLE63W4S
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Old Dec 13, 2017 | 11:52 AM
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holy shit, the horsepower wars is alive and well.
fuck sedans!
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Old Dec 13, 2017 | 02:33 PM
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Don't worry, the GLE AMG is a close second. You know I'm a Mercedes guy... but I do miss my Porsche and that V8 GTS is just yummy...
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Old Dec 13, 2017 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
Yup, you can spin out a S2000 with sticky summer tires in bone dry warm conditions.

Key words for driving anything: Don't be an idiot.
This.

If summer tires aren't fully warmed up .. they might as well be hockey pucks.
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Old Dec 13, 2017 | 03:06 PM
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This.

If summer tires aren't fully warmed up .. they might as well be hockey pucks.
Try driving on them when it's 35 out, you can do burnouts in the S through third gear.
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Old Dec 13, 2017 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dudeitsroman
lexus isf
cadillac ctsv
dodge charger
bmw 335 535 550 m5
goes on
ISF wouldn't be bad. Plenty of reliable stories about them, & their only issue is they suffer from the good ol' Lexus labor rates (like the TL does for Acura in comparison to Honda). They also have been holding their value a lot better as well, so it's a solid car to keep in the long run. There's still plenty of demand for Lexus to bring it back.

I would not agree with the Dodge or BMW.
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Old Dec 13, 2017 | 10:43 PM
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I'm thinking a lightly used A4, maybe 2014 with a 6MT?
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Old Dec 14, 2017 | 02:20 AM
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I'm thinking a lightly used A4, maybe 2014 with a 6MT?
220 hp isn't great, but you get a nice interior
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Old Dec 14, 2017 | 08:39 AM
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^ With no USB port...
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Old Dec 14, 2017 | 01:43 PM
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Considering my daily commute is ~25mph ... I don't need anything engaging

I adore the Fit, but a comfy GS350 would be tits.
Have a GS350 UL and I love it personally. Handling can be slightly fixed with the F-Sport package, but I enjoy my 15 mile commute a lot better than the TL even though I use the TL more for that commute.
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Old Dec 15, 2017 | 09:32 PM
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220 hp isn't great, but you get a nice interior
Sure, but a few mods can get it to 325+HP on stock internals. That would make it sporty, or maybe 260-280HP with a stage 1 re-flashed ECU. I mean, you're not getting much warranty at this year/price point so why not
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Sure, but a few mods can get it to 325+HP on stock internals. That would make it sporty, or maybe 260-280HP with a stage 1 re-flashed ECU. I mean, you're not getting much warranty at this year/price point so why not
And STILL no USB port.
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Old Dec 21, 2017 | 04:51 PM
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And STILL no USB port.
THIS...... Now that I think about it. Screw Audi and no USB port.
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really Audi has no USB port? how do i charge my phone?
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Old Dec 21, 2017 | 07:54 PM
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really Audi has no USB port? how do i charge my phone?
Same way everyone else does that has no USB port built in?
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
really Audi has no USB port? how do i charge my phone?
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Same way everyone else does that has no USB port built in?



Seriously...even the newest Audi's don't have USB ports.. I THINK the 2018 model has one but not sure on that, but 99% sure 2017 and prior don't have them. U can use a cigarette lighter charger, but can't play music from your phone.

Audi has their own Euro system. You can rig it by hooking up some old school 2000s PC cable to a connection in the glovebox. IMO way too ghetto .. if I spend the money for a car like that I expect USB ports..
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Seriously...even the newest Audi's don't have USB ports.. I THINK the 2018 model has one but not sure on that, but 99% sure 2017 and prior don't have them. U can use a cigarette lighter charger, but can't play music from your phone.

Audi has their own Euro system. You can rig it by hooking up some old school 2000s PC cable to a connection in the glovebox. IMO way too ghetto .. if I spend the money for a car like that I expect USB ports..
Yes they do. I had a 2017 A4 as a rental and there were two normal USB-A ports under the armrest and another two in the back seat. This is how you hook up to Apple CarPlay/Android Auto. There may be more but I didn't look around all that much.
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I was gonna say... can't you stream music through Bluetooth anyway?

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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
Yes they do. I had a 2017 A4 as a rental and there were two normal USB-A ports under the armrest and another two in the back seat. This is how you hook up to Apple CarPlay/Android Auto. There may be more but I didn't look around all that much.
Then they must have just added it in 2017.
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I was gonna say... can't you stream music through Bluetooth anyway?

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Yes but the sound quality sucks.
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