Best fuel to buy
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draginmopar (10-01-2017)
10-01-2017, 08:08 AM
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Burning Brakes
There is a rating system. Just search Top Tier Fuels. In my area, Costco is a provider of top tier fuel, along with BP, Chevron, Citco, Conoco, Exon, Mobile, Phillips 66, Shell and Texico. Costco consistently offers the best price here in the mid-Atlantic, Baltimore- Washington area. $2.31 for regular, and $2.75, for premium.
10-01-2017, 09:54 AM
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Shell or Chevron for me
10-01-2017, 10:23 AM
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I drive a Subata.
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Doesn't really matter. Get one from the nearest one.
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kurtatx (10-01-2017)
10-01-2017, 10:39 AM
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Azine Jabroni
My thought it is doesn't matter (it probably doesn't), but if you buy the Top Tier Gas thing, it's pretty much just all reputable franchises.
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10-02-2017, 06:00 AM
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Latent car nut
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10-02-2017, 07:10 AM
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Burning Brakes
Licensed Top Tier Detergent Gasoline (TTDG) retailers use a higher level of detergent additives compared to other non Top Tier retailers using only the minimum EPA required detergent additives in order to help prevent the buildup of harmful engine deposits which may reduce fuel economy and optimal engine performance. According to an automotive industry spokesman, the regular use of this type of gasoline results in improved engine life.[1]
The Top Tier standards must apply to all grades of gasoline that a company sells, whether it is economy (low-octane) or premium (high-octane).[
10-02-2017, 08:26 AM
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Latent car nut
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Don't drink the Top-Tier kool-aid, there is zero benefit from spending the extra money for their fuels compared to non-Top-Tier fuels, just another gimmick.
10-02-2017, 09:30 AM
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Ex-OEM King
Costco.
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10-02-2017, 09:58 PM
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A "marketing gimic" NOT SO MUCH. Here is what Wiikipedia says: " Top Tier Detergent Gasoline is a performance specification and trademark designed and supported by several major automakers — BMW, General Motors, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, Honda, Toyota, Volkswagen, Mercedes-Benz, and Audi (as of 2017). Top Tier gasoline must maintain levels of detergent additives that result in a higher standard of engine cleanliness and performance as compared to the EPA requirement. In addition, Top Tier fuels may not contain metallic additives, which can harm the vehicle emission system and create pollutants. Each of these automakers recommends the use of Top Tier Detergent Gasoline in their owner's manuals. As of 2017, Top Tier Detergent Gasoline is available from 51 licensed retail brands.
Licensed Top Tier Detergent Gasoline (TTDG) retailers use a higher level of detergent additives compared to other non Top Tier retailers using only the minimum EPA required detergent additives in order to help prevent the buildup of harmful engine deposits which may reduce fuel economy and optimal engine performance. According to an automotive industry spokesman, the regular use of this type of gasoline results in improved engine life.[1]
The Top Tier standards must apply to all grades of gasoline that a company sells, whether it is economy (low-octane) or premium (high-octane).[
Licensed Top Tier Detergent Gasoline (TTDG) retailers use a higher level of detergent additives compared to other non Top Tier retailers using only the minimum EPA required detergent additives in order to help prevent the buildup of harmful engine deposits which may reduce fuel economy and optimal engine performance. According to an automotive industry spokesman, the regular use of this type of gasoline results in improved engine life.[1]
The Top Tier standards must apply to all grades of gasoline that a company sells, whether it is economy (low-octane) or premium (high-octane).[
.At one point, BP (and Arco) and Exxon were not Top Tier brands. But some people analyzed the detergent levels of different brands of gas and what did they find?
Both Exxon and BP were in the top 3 brands with most detergent levels.
Exxon (at the time) didn't want to be told how to make or market their fuels.
Complicating things, some respected brands not on the Top Tier list claim to exceed the requirements. They just don't think auto companies should tell them how to make or market their fuels.
ExxonMobil, for instance, wants "a more collaborative approach," says spokeswoman Prem Nair. Auto and oil companies should "work cooperatively to determine the optimal mix of vehicle hardware and fuel standards," she says. Exxon and Mobil aren't Top Tier brands, though Nair says they surpass that standard.
Ford Motor, not in the Top Tier coalition, says right on its gasoline caps, "Ford recommends BP," not a Top Tier brand. "Their fuel meets or exceeds what our vehicles require. We know their products" from collaborating on lubricant and fuel research, says Ford spokesman Said Deep.
ExxonMobil, for instance, wants "a more collaborative approach," says spokeswoman Prem Nair. Auto and oil companies should "work cooperatively to determine the optimal mix of vehicle hardware and fuel standards," she says. Exxon and Mobil aren't Top Tier brands, though Nair says they surpass that standard.
Ford Motor, not in the Top Tier coalition, says right on its gasoline caps, "Ford recommends BP," not a Top Tier brand. "Their fuel meets or exceeds what our vehicles require. We know their products" from collaborating on lubricant and fuel research, says Ford spokesman Said Deep.
The list of Top Tier fuel brands changes from time to time as I noted here https://acurazine.com/forums/car-tal.../#post14737934 and quoted for easier reading:
Exactly. It's all marketing. Whoever wants to pay the marketing fee gets their name put up on the site.
Back in 2007, Exxon and Mobil didn't pay the Top Tier listing fee.
But a few years later, they did (screenshot from 2012)
If you look at the current list, you'll see that BP and Scheirl Oil have been added while Rebel Oil and Severson Oil have been removed.
Maybe Rebel Oil and Severson Oil didn't see any noticeable increase in fuel sales and figured the listing fee wasn't worth it?
Back in 2007, Exxon and Mobil didn't pay the Top Tier listing fee.
But a few years later, they did (screenshot from 2012)
If you look at the current list, you'll see that BP and Scheirl Oil have been added while Rebel Oil and Severson Oil have been removed.
Maybe Rebel Oil and Severson Oil didn't see any noticeable increase in fuel sales and figured the listing fee wasn't worth it?
Back then, Arco wasn't listed as a Top Tier gas. But now they are. I've used Arco for almost 2 decade and have NEVER had any problems with their gas.
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10-02-2017, 10:09 PM
#15
Using a Top Tier brand just means that the gas is guaranteed to meet a minimum quality (as determined by the Top Tier consortium). It doesn't mean that non Top Tier brands are of lower quality or cannot be better in quality.
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