Cryhawk

I'm in the market for a lightweight pulley, I see endless and xlr8 are selling them. Xlr8's is 198$ and endless is only 150$
is there any major difference between these two making the 50$ difference?

thisaznboi88

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if it is machine and balance correctly. There should be no problem. Get that special crankshaft impact socket if you want to make your life easier.

Cryhawk

So there will be no difference in performance from the endless rpm compared to the xlr8 one?

thisaznboi88

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its a chunk of aluminium. Unless its the under-drive vs stock diameter. Even then its like 1 hp difference at the most.

WaterBottle1

Just to add to the OP.

Is there any update on the reliability of the new pulleys?
​​​​​​All I read was belt issues after installing them.

I've really been wanting to do this too.

justnspace

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Look at the vendors....
one is VERY well established with store fronts and many many many employees.

the other is a start up who is trying to compete by slashing prices!!!!!!!!!!!!

thoiboi

But what's the gains difference between the two??????

WaterBottle1

The gains between the two don't matter. Same thing. As long as they are made right.

you should be more concerned about the belt problems.

thisaznboi88

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^ pick the right belt. That should fix that slipping problem. People trying to put stock belt on UR pulley and wonder why it was slipping and slapping.

I ran a stock diameter one on my turbo car for a while and didn't see any signs of slipping and tensioner was where it should be in regards to the tick marks

WaterBottle1

I'm looking into stock diameter.
which belt is the perfect fit?

thisaznboi88

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the stock one

ExcelerateRep

Our XLR8 Crank Pulleys are produced by UnorthodoxRacing which means:

• They're guaranteed to have the perfect balance
• 100% made in America
• They come with a 5 Year warranty
• 18+ years of use and testing from rally to drag strips
• They're held to tolerances seen in aircraft, medical, military and space programs
• Always made from the finest materials

You can find them on our site here: http://hoa.excelerateperformance.com...s/g-74342.aspx

I'm not sure what the Endless pulley has gone through, but I'd be willing to bet the $50 price gap comes from research and development.

If you end up going the Endless route a write up would be awesome!

Happy modding!

Cryhawk

What belt has been working for you guys? Besides the stock one. I'll be getting the stock size crank pulley but want a higher quality belt.

thoiboi

What's wrong with stock?

sockr1

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from unorthodox directly, they say you need to use a specific gates belt with their stock pulley. they also say you should replace it every 3 years or 36k miles. i'm sure there's no issues, but i didn't want to live by those requirements and pay for a TB change every 3 years so i sold my pulley (unused) and stayed oem

i hear people like their pulleys tho!

Cryhawk

But it uses the serpentine belt not the TB, so why would you have to replace that?
also I saw aznboi say not to use the oem belt. That's why I asked

sockr1

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i don't know the details of the install/replacement all i know is they ask for a specific belt every 36000 miles and i don't want that compared to the 7 years for oem haha. a few hp wasn't worth it to me. just relaying what they told me for other users

Cryhawk

a serpentine belt job is DIY in 10-15 minutes. And only costs around 15$ that's not bad for every 36K miles which is around three years.

thisaznboi88

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I meant to say underdrive not UR. Ur is the company name. Stock diameter use stock belt.

buy this impact socket and use a decent impact gun with it. Remove the crank bolt like it was a lug nut

sockr1

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that's why i didn't want to mess with this, i have no way to removing that crank bolt (no impact gun) which is my understanding on how you replace the belt, is it not the right way to replace?

​​​​​​​do you not have to remove the crank bolt?

thisaznboi88

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^ don't have to remove the crank to do the belt. Only have to remove the crank to swap them, or if you want to do a timing belt. Do not lose that damn crank key though or else you are fked

sockr1

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ah got it thank you. shit i should have done this when i had my TB done a year ago haha.

so all i need to do is remove the crank pulley bolt, replace the pulley and add the belt that's it? and then when i replace the belt i don't need to do that again?
maybe i can find a coworker with an impact.

when you say crank key, are you referring to the socket you linked?

WaterBottle1

That's not bad.
ive just read around that belts are cracking prematurely. Maybe they just aren't replacing it soon enough and expect it to be like OEM 7yrs.

sockr1

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^^ links to those discussions?

Cryhawk

when you replace the belt, you just use a regular socket and move the tensioner so it gives you a little. It of slack and you slide the belt right off, then wrap a new one on and take done. No special tools.

Cryhawk

is that the same tool that holds it in place so the pulley itself doesn't move? I've seen people link a different tool that holds it.

thoiboi

thisaznboi88

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the crank key is a like square piece. If you lose it you are screwed. Its special order from honda or go to the junk yard and try to break a crank pulley loose so you can steal the key. good image it since I don't have a picture of one.

thisaznboi88

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no you just need an impact gun.

sockr1

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so does this key come with our car? or is it something you have to buy? sorry i'm still confused about how to obtain one

thisaznboi88

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its already holding your current crank pulley in place. That why it doesn't spin freely around. It locks the crank pulley into place. Like I said google the image.

sockr1

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ah i see what you're saying, thing is so small looks easy to lose haha

sockr1

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Man now I need to look into this again haha

where are those discussions waterbottle?

Cryhawk

thats the tool I'm talking about, the tool you linked and this one are "frequently bought together".

thisaznboi88

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lol people are idiots if they are trying to use that with the impact socket + the honda crank holding tool. watch the video below. You also see the slot in the crank pulley where the key goes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecHw1WamRJY&ab_channel=dawnpatrol20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4LxMhY--XE&ab_channel=local701

sockr1

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^ i couldn't click on links haha

thisaznboi88

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Cryhawk

maybe it's used to put the pulley back on without it spinning? Maybe it's different for manual vs automatic but I know people normally have another person holding the brakes so it doesn't turn the crank. I think that tool is used so you don't need someone to hold the brakes.

thisaznboi88

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Or you can just hit it with an impact and call it a day.

When you get the light weight pulley there is no place to hold it like the stock one. So yeah it's useless. hit it with an impact and be on your way.

thisaznboi88

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