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Old 02-08-2017 | 01:52 PM
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What is this that is seeping. (Picture)

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Bolt that has blue on it, looks like it has a crush washer that is seeping. On transmission. Why is this bolt blue and why does it have a crush washer on it?

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Old 02-08-2017 | 01:57 PM
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I'm going to throw out a guess and say it's transmission fluid
Old 02-08-2017 | 02:34 PM
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I believe that's how tech's know that that bolt has been changed before.
I might be wrong
Old 02-08-2017 | 09:54 PM
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Yeah I am sure its transmission fluid that is gunked up. Stupid for me to ask "what is seeping" But I am more curious about the bolt with the washer. Just didn't know what to title the thread. I just drained my transmission fluid for the first time and noticed that bolt with a blue marking and a crush washer...Surprised no one knows what that bolt is for. Anyone with a service manual that knows?

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Old 02-10-2017 | 09:11 AM
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What year car, assuming 07-08 type s. Can we get a non zoomed picture for location of said bolt?
Old 02-10-2017 | 11:57 AM
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Yes its an 08 Type S.

I will get some further away pictures once I put my skid plate back on tomorrow. It is right in front by the nose of the car.

5 speed Automatic

I am guessing it just needs a new crush washer. It is just weird they have a crush washer on that random bolt that is not a drain plug.
Old 02-10-2017 | 12:09 PM
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a blue bolt means that that bolt was replaced.
I dont think it should have a crush washer. that may be the source of the seep/leak.
Old 02-10-2017 | 12:42 PM
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Nah, there is a crush washer on the ATF drain bolt (at least on '04 / '05 ATs). They probably didn't replace it with a new one, although I've reused my oil drain plug crush washer many times without an issue. Or maybe the bolt just isn't tightened to spec?

FYI, torque spec is fairly significant, at 36 ft-lbs (again, reading the 04/05 SM).

I'd put a torque wrench on it and see if it's tightened to spec. If not, tighten it to spec and then clean off the area and see what happens...

If that is not applicable or doesn't work, then now is the perfect time to get a 3 x 3 drain and fill done while you replace the crush washer and maybe the bolt....

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^I dont have an automatic....but I dont think that's the drain bolt??????

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it's not. Drain bolt just takes a 3/8" ratchet.

I think nfn might alluding to the fact that the drain bolt may be leaking and seeping towards that bolt but not sure if that's the case here.
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Old 02-10-2017 | 01:02 PM
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to me, it looks like some one replaced that blue bolt. and OP says there's a crush washer on it...which shouldnt be there...as that is a bolt to the transmission case....not a drain bolt
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ah, OK, it's that's not the drain bolt, then yeah, I'd be surprised to a see case bolt that uses a crush washer....

Is that a rebuilt tranny?

Probably should just give it a good cleaning and then observe it to confirm that the leak is coming from that bolt?
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Old 02-10-2017 | 01:09 PM
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also, I know this is a new to you car, 4door...
Sorry that you're going through all these problems ( i remember reading you had a few more problems with it?)
Old 02-10-2017 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 4drturbo
Bolt that has blue on it, looks like it has a crush washer ...
Ahhh, now I'm wondering: crush washer or just a flanged bolt? Need to clean it off and get a better look...
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Old 02-11-2017 | 01:20 AM
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also, I know this is a new to you car, 4door...
Sorry that you're going through all these problems ( i remember reading you had a few more problems with it?)
Nah not really any other problems. Car had the original air filter in it. Which was like black. I changed that out. I also put a new AGM battery in it since the battery in it was close to 5 years old and was only at like 12.2-12.3 volts.
I did the cabin filter and broke a couple plastic clips. Luckily it went back together fine and doesn't rattle or anything so not worried about the clips. And I recently just changed the transmission fluid for the first time. That is when I noticed that bolt with blue on it seeping. Yeah it has nothing to do with the drain bolt which was dry as a whistle. Going to carb clean that nasty area tomorrow, inspect it more and perhaps tighten it down some. I have to put the splash shield on anyhow since I left it off. Tranny fluid was easy but the drain bolt and fill bolt were torqued to like 200 ft lbs! (Never been removed I assumed)

I already ordered a ton of parts for the timing belt install. It has 77k on it, but it is almost a 9 year old car so the timing belt is due. Having that done with a valve adjustment.

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Ahhh, now I'm wondering: crush washer or just a flanged bolt? Need to clean it off and get a better look...
Will do.
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Old 02-11-2017 | 06:46 AM
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looks like you have an awesome plan of attack!

happy wrenching!!
Old 02-13-2017 | 12:09 PM
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Here are some better pictures

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Cleaned up:

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Might as well clean this up too

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That bolt was torqued down tightly. So it wasn't loose. I will keep an eye on it.
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Interesting... Judging by the color of the bolt and other comments, it's highly likely that it was replaced at some point. The why it was replaced is the answer that we need. My guess is that this area was leaking prior to replacement, so some shop replaced the bolt and added a crush washer to try an alleviate the issue. Just a guess though.

I'm not super versed on this car and what the bolt is for, but it's definitely on the transmission and that certainly looks like dirty tranny fluid leaking out.

My only guess at a fix is to replace that bolt with an OEM one. Finding that specific bolt could be the hard part though.

I would keep an eye out underneath the spot where you park the car and see if it's still leaking and if so, how much.
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If I'm not mistaken, it looks like #13 on this page:

OEM Acura TL SEDAN 2008 AT TORQUE CONVERTER CASE parts




Which is labeled as a sealing bolt. The previous owner may have tried to undo the bolt to drain the fluid in the torque converter as part of the drain and fill. There also happens to have a gasket #17) My reasoning for this theory is the head of the bolt looks partially sheared off where a socket may have slipped.
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Old 02-13-2017 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
If I'm not mistaken, it looks like #13 on this page:

OEM Acura TL SEDAN 2008 AT TORQUE CONVERTER CASE parts




Which is labeled as a sealing bolt. The previous owner may have tried to undo the bolt to drain the fluid in the torque converter as part of the drain and fill. There also happens to have a gasket #17) My reasoning for this theory is the head of the bolt looks partially sheared off where a socket may have slipped.
If I was 4drturbo, I would start by buying the bolt and gasket (crush washer) and replacing. Either #14 or #13, both are labeled as sealing bolt, but the bolt pictured does look like a 10mm (#13), if not bigger. Damn, good eye thoiboi. Maybe I'll send you a picture of this particular clip I am looking for.

Bolt does look sheared, I'd be careful trying to remove it and put the biggest breaker you can under the car in case it's torqued in there real good. My guess is that hack who put it in over torqued it to try and seal the leak.

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Old 02-13-2017 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by NoTLoud
If I was 4drturbo, I would start by buying the bolt and gasket (crush washer) and replacing. Either #14 or #13, both are labeled as sealing bolt, but the bolt pictured does look like a 10mm (#13), if not bigger. Damn, good eye thoiboi. Maybe I'll send you a picture of this particular clip I am looking for.

Bolt does look sheared, I'd be careful trying to remove it and put the biggest breaker you can under the car in case it's torqued in there real good.
BY all means

My guess is that hack who put it in over torqued it to try and seal the leak.
My assumption as well after looking at better pictures.
Old 02-13-2017 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NoTLoud
If I was 4drturbo, I would start by buying the bolt and gasket (crush washer) and replacing. Either #14 or #13, both are labeled as sealing bolt, but the bolt pictured does look like a 10mm (#13), if not bigger. Damn, good eye thoiboi. Maybe I'll send you a picture of this particular clip I am looking for.

Bolt does look sheared, I'd be careful trying to remove it and put the biggest breaker you can under the car in case it's torqued in there real good. My guess is that hack who put it in over torqued it to try and seal the leak.
So some one else making a thread state the drain bolt is on the opposite Azine DIY on a 07-08 TL. so this must be it.
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So some one else making a thread state the drain bolt is on the opposite Azine DIY on a 07-08 TL. so this must be it.
15 is still the drain bolt...
Old 02-13-2017 | 06:52 PM
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The blue mark is a factory crayon mark to show that the part met all inspections before it was installed and verified by a few folks on the assembly line. You'll fine odd marks and colors all over the car from the factory to ensure all steps were taken and verified.

The bolt looks like it was loosened in the past. A new crush washer and you'll be fine!
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Old 02-14-2017 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
If I'm not mistaken, it looks like #13 on this page:

OEM Acura TL SEDAN 2008 AT TORQUE CONVERTER CASE parts




Which is labeled as a sealing bolt. The previous owner may have tried to undo the bolt to drain the fluid in the torque converter as part of the drain and fill. There also happens to have a gasket #17) My reasoning for this theory is the head of the bolt looks partially sheared off where a socket may have slipped.
Thank you very much for that diagram, It must be #13. I will keep an eye on it since it is all cleaned up.




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