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Old Jul 4, 2016 | 11:08 AM
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whether it was with standard tires or optional Michellen cup tires?. this test does not say anything about high speed performance like 100 to 200mph timings. I can bet NSX will beat GTR. Honda has superior aerodynamics.
never in history of Edmunds long term tests a car has beaten its EPA highway mile per gallon by 10mpg and using airconditioning. Ground breaking aerodynamics.
https://www.edmunds.com/honda/civic/...100-miles.html
After driving our long-term 2016 Honda Civic 1,100 miles over a long weekend, I've got a few distinct impressions. As Dan Edmunds noted, the car deserved a good road trip, and a lazy cruise up and down California was perfect for that.

1. It's easily capable of 50 mpg. The Civic is one of the fastest cars in the class and it can still get hybrid-worthy numbers.


just to clarify GTR is under 3 second car in most US tests.

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Old Jul 4, 2016 | 02:34 PM
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Sooooo it was only able to beat the Nissan GTR by .2 of a sec
Chris Harris loved it though, which is great for Honda.
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Old Jul 4, 2016 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Sooooo it was only able to beat the Nissan GTR by .2 of a sec
Yea, like SSFTSX said, not sure what tires were used.....I might also add, not sure which mode it was tested in.

But in terms of tires, the NSX has 3 choices:

Continental ContiSportContact 5P
michelin pilot super sport
Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R

After all, Graham Rahal did a casual hot lap at Thermal Raceway in the NSX and got 1:21.9. It compares well against some high end super cars:
Thermal Club Raceway lap times - FastestLaps.com
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 08:32 AM
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Honda NSX Detailed In Fresh Gallery [82 Images]

Honda NSX Detailed In Fresh Gallery [82 Images]
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 08:35 AM
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The wait is over: driving the new Honda NSX | Top Gear
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
Yea, like SSFTSX said, not sure what tires were used.....I might also add, not sure which mode it was tested in.

But in terms of tires, the NSX has 3 choices:

Continental ContiSportContact 5P
michelin pilot super sport
Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R

After all, Graham Rahal did a casual hot lap at Thermal Raceway in the NSX and got 1:21.9. It compares well against some high end super cars:
Thermal Club Raceway lap times - FastestLaps.com
I sincerely doubt they drove the car in ECO mode, with the worst available tires on it, while it's competitors were the exact opposite.

I'd like to believe they are credible enough to compare apples-to-apples.
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 11:04 AM
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Yea, like SSFTSX said,...
You should have stopped right there.
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 12:34 PM
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
I sincerely doubt they drove the car in ECO mode, with the worst available tires on it, while it's competitors were the exact opposite.

I'd like to believe they are credible enough to compare apples-to-apples.


If we're to believe what Chris Evans said of the NSX while it was going around Hammerhead:

"You can run the NSX is electric-only mode, but Stig of course has petrol and battery-powered set to maximum attack."

and as Stig enters the 2nd to last corner:

"The NSX harvesting battery power now from the brakes just like an F1 car. Clever."

It was either in Sport + or Track mode. To think that they didn't use the best driving mode to try to get the best possible track time is ridiculous.
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 01:27 PM
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Had to have been track mode. No way Top Gear leaves cards on the table.
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 01:29 PM
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Maybe the Stig was afraid of time travelling and ended up leaving the car I granny mode.
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 01:45 PM
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But then which tires did the GT-R use?

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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 02:10 PM
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But then which tires did the GT-R use?

Conspiracy!?!?!??
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Maybe the Stig was afraid of time travelling and ended up leaving the car I granny mode.
That's entirely possible too. Even in granny mode, its "hp are much more than other company hp" and it can still "easily compete with cars having 1000bhp."
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 02:50 PM
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Conspiracy!?!?!??
I heard TG purposely upgraded GTR's tires to all seasons so it would be a fair comparison.
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Old Jul 7, 2016 | 12:10 PM
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Fernando Alonso: 2017 Acura NSX braking feel similar to F1

Fernando Alonso: 2017 Acura NSX braking feel similar to F1

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Old Jul 7, 2016 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
I sincerely doubt they drove the car in ECO mode, with the worst available tires on it, while it's competitors were the exact opposite.

I'd like to believe they are credible enough to compare apples-to-apples.
So there's a Honda insider over at TOV saying that the TG test car was equipped with the Conti's. He said that the only reason Honda spec'ed those Conti's for the NSX is to avoid getting sued. Honda was sued when the first NSX came out because of the tire wear issue. These Conti's are supposed to be long lasting so that way people can't sue them.

And yup, only Honda does this kind of things...LOL

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You should have stopped right there.
LOL
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Old Jul 7, 2016 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
So there's a Honda insider over at TOV saying that the TG test car was equipped with the Conti's. He said that the only reason Honda spec'ed those Conti's for the NSX is to avoid getting sued. Honda was sued when the first NSX came out because of the tire wear issue. These Conti's are supposed to be long lasting so that way people can't sue them.

And yup, only Honda does this kind of things...LOL



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thats nothing short of BS. People can still sue if they don't opt for the contis. so if you opt for the Michelins, you can no longer sue? Why not have the same disclaimer for all tires?

Honda maybe needs to figure out how to align their tires a bit better, rather than specing shit tires.

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Old Jul 7, 2016 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
thats nothing short of BS. People can still sue if they don't opt for the contis. so if you opt for the Michelins, you can no longer sue? Why not have the same disclaimer for all tires?

Honda maybe needs to figure out how to align their tires a bit better, rather than specing shit tires.
It's not BS, the first ever NTSHA looked into any tire wear for a vehicle was the NSX.
The 1G NSX rear suspension geometry and alignment makes for heavy wear, pretty well known in the NSX community.

Acura Tire Wear Comes Under Fire - NYTimes.com
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Old Jul 7, 2016 | 02:39 PM
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Yes, I know that. And there is a number of better ways of taking care of it, besides putting shitty tires on.
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 11:35 AM
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The idea is that, the new base NSX is more for street use. As such, using the Conti's is justified. This is not to say I agree with what Honda's doing about the tires. It's more about why they didn't spec the tires with the best grip right from the beginning.

For the Type R/GT3 version, it will come with the higher spec tires from the factory.



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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 11:47 AM
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Every NSX being sold is for street use. I bet less than 5% will ever see a track, in their life span. Plus there is nothing different between the "base" and "loaded" models. It's all cosmetic changes. Your argument is invalid.
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
The idea is that, the new base NSX is more for street use. As such, using the Conti's is justified. This is not to say I agree with what Honda's doing about the tires. It's more about why they didn't spec the tires with the best grip right from the beginning.

For the Type R/GT3 version, it will come with the higher spec tires from the factory.
Really, you don't need to defend every bad decision Honda/Acura makes. It's okay to let one go every now and then.
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Old Jul 10, 2016 | 04:09 PM
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Old Jul 10, 2016 | 05:04 PM
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Well, at least SOMEONE is getting these cars.....
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Old Jul 10, 2016 | 05:04 PM
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Well, at least SOMEONE is getting these cars.....
Michael Dell is getting his next week, apparently.
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 01:13 AM
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 09:17 AM
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Seinfeld did the commercial spot-why didn't he get 3 vs. #4?
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 09:19 AM
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you don't want to know what Leno had to do to get spot #3 from Seinfeld...
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you know what would be cool, if Acura made a sports car that was priced around 70-80k.
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 10:47 AM
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you know what would be cool, if Acura made a sports car that was priced around 45-55k.
Fixed.
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 10:49 AM
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Fixed.
well sure, do that too. Or that could be a Honda.

I was thinking more along the lines of a Corvette-priced model
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Every NSX being sold is for street use. I bet less than 5% will ever see a track, in their life span. Plus there is nothing different between the "base" and "loaded" models. It's all cosmetic changes. Your argument is invalid.
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Really, you don't need to defend every bad decision Honda/Acura makes. It's okay to let one go every now and then.
Lol, like I said, I don't agree with their decision...so I don't know how that's defending?

Yup, I specifically said this in my previous post,

"This is not to say I agree with what Honda's doing about the tires."

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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 03:50 PM
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Lol, like I said, I don't agree with their decision...so I don't know how that's defending?

Yup, I specifically said this in my previous post,

"This is not to say I agree with what Honda's doing about the tires."
[sigh] But you opened with this:

Originally Posted by iforyou
The idea is that, the new base NSX is more for street use. As such, using the Conti's is justified.
The fact that you don't agree with it is what prompted my comment. You don't agree with the decision, but you defend it as "justified."
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 04:54 PM
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 05:14 PM
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^^^If Leno has #3, Seinfeld #4, and #1 was auctioned at Barrett Jackson, who's getting #2?
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 05:16 PM
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SSFTSX. Duh.
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 05:19 PM
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But did he get the upgraded tires, to match the superior aerodynamic?
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 05:26 PM
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The Honda NSX is considered by its maker to be a platform rather than a single model, meaning that a whole host of different versions are likely to be launched over the model’s life cycle.

According to NSX project boss Ted Klaus, Honda is contemplating convertible, lightweight, non-hybrid and all-electric versions, one of which is set to wear the Type R badge. The NSX, which will reach the UK in right-hand drive form this autumn, will initially have a hybrid powertrain, with a twinturbo 3.5-litre V6 combining with 3 electric motors for a total 573bhp output. The car is currently in production in the US, in a new factory in Ohio called the Performance Manufacturing Centre.

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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 05:28 PM
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I foresee a targa version, in the future
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