The 3G Ramblings & General Discussion Thread (Quattro)
Does the zoning in your area permit an above garage dwelling? Something to look into before you get too far into it.
Sounds like it'd almost be worth demolishing the garage and building a new one from the ground up, rather than removing half of it and still retrofitting.
Sounds like it'd almost be worth demolishing the garage and building a new one from the ground up, rather than removing half of it and still retrofitting.
what would the intentions for that room be? Just like a man cave? or bedrooms? Any plans for a kitchen/bathroom in there? just trying to get a sense of what you're doing and the costs
as cool of an idea as it sounds, yeah, I'm going to have to agree with the others and say buy a bigger house. You could mortgage that additional cost, rather than getting creative with trying to finance it. Unless, of course, you have 80k kicking around... I guess I shouldn't make assumptions
as cool of an idea as it sounds, yeah, I'm going to have to agree with the others and say buy a bigger house. You could mortgage that additional cost, rather than getting creative with trying to finance it. Unless, of course, you have 80k kicking around... I guess I shouldn't make assumptions 

80k is like a drop in the bucket for gatr the injunear... he makes that in a month...
as cool of an idea as it sounds, yeah, I'm going to have to agree with the others and say buy a bigger house. You could mortgage that additional cost, rather than getting creative with trying to finance it. Unless, of course, you have 80k kicking around... I guess I shouldn't make assumptions 

We're going to live in this house for a long time (until we die). We like it.
who are we kidding.. no one can live like him
I like my house too. Last night I thought about selling (I know again) and going to buy a brand new one... I would only get 80k profit maybe a little more. But I need to remember those houses that are models you have to pay for all those upgrades..
We made $120K profit when we moved from MD to Florida. That's a lot of scratch.
Just saying... 
Items to consider:
1. plumbing for bathroom. If your garage has a sink in it, you're half way there. Adding a toilet and shower will be no big deal, since you already have the drains there. Getting extra hot/cold water lines out to the garage will be a problem. You can't just splice off the sink. If no sink, the service connection to the sanitary main will likely not be cheap.
2. is there a dedicated electrical panel in your garage? Any idea what amperage it's rated for? If there already is a sub panel in the garage, an upgrade wouldn't be all that bad.
3. like you mentioned, the duct work will need to be installed. That could likely be a big ticket item, as something would have to be designed specifically for your garage. I'd maybe look into the codes and try designing it yourself. It'll save you a ton of cash.
4. would the stairs be inside the garage, or outside? Just consider the lost square footage inside the garage, by having the stairs there. You'll also lose some square footage on the upper floor too. Not a huge loss, but if you only have 400 sqft, every foot counts.
5. Insulation shouldn't be all that bad, price wise. However, getting drywall up there might be a pain. you could either cut the wall open and bring it in via zoomboom, or try lugging it up the stairs otherwise, but, if you have to turn a corner, you'll be cursing night and day.
6. I assume you likely have to provide your municipality with engineered and stamped drawings for this. Generally, structural changes will require a stamping engineer and I don't believe you can do it yourself (unless it's different in FL).

Items to consider:
1. plumbing for bathroom. If your garage has a sink in it, you're half way there. Adding a toilet and shower will be no big deal, since you already have the drains there. Getting extra hot/cold water lines out to the garage will be a problem. You can't just splice off the sink. If no sink, the service connection to the sanitary main will likely not be cheap.
2. is there a dedicated electrical panel in your garage? Any idea what amperage it's rated for? If there already is a sub panel in the garage, an upgrade wouldn't be all that bad.
3. like you mentioned, the duct work will need to be installed. That could likely be a big ticket item, as something would have to be designed specifically for your garage. I'd maybe look into the codes and try designing it yourself. It'll save you a ton of cash.
4. would the stairs be inside the garage, or outside? Just consider the lost square footage inside the garage, by having the stairs there. You'll also lose some square footage on the upper floor too. Not a huge loss, but if you only have 400 sqft, every foot counts.
5. Insulation shouldn't be all that bad, price wise. However, getting drywall up there might be a pain. you could either cut the wall open and bring it in via zoomboom, or try lugging it up the stairs otherwise, but, if you have to turn a corner, you'll be cursing night and day.
6. I assume you likely have to provide your municipality with engineered and stamped drawings for this. Generally, structural changes will require a stamping engineer and I don't believe you can do it yourself (unless it's different in FL).
Just saying... 
Items to consider:
1. plumbing for bathroom. If your garage has a sink in it, you're half way there. Adding a toilet and shower will be no big deal, since you already have the drains there. Getting extra hot/cold water lines out to the garage will be a problem. You can't just splice off the sink. If no sink, the service connection to the sanitary main will likely not be cheap.
2. is there a dedicated electrical panel in your garage? Any idea what amperage it's rated for? If there already is a sub panel in the garage, an upgrade wouldn't be all that bad.
3. like you mentioned, the duct work will need to be installed. That could likely be a big ticket item, as something would have to be designed specifically for your garage. I'd maybe look into the codes and try designing it yourself. It'll save you a ton of cash.
4. would the stairs be inside the garage, or outside? Just consider the lost square footage inside the garage, by having the stairs there. You'll also lose some square footage on the upper floor too. Not a huge loss, but if you only have 400 sqft, every foot counts.
5. Insulation shouldn't be all that bad, price wise. However, getting drywall up there might be a pain. you could either cut the wall open and bring it in via zoomboom, or try lugging it up the stairs otherwise, but, if you have to turn a corner, you'll be cursing night and day.
6. I assume you likely have to provide your municipality with engineered and stamped drawings for this. Generally, structural changes will require a stamping engineer and I don't believe you can do it yourself (unless it's different in FL).

Items to consider:
1. plumbing for bathroom. If your garage has a sink in it, you're half way there. Adding a toilet and shower will be no big deal, since you already have the drains there. Getting extra hot/cold water lines out to the garage will be a problem. You can't just splice off the sink. If no sink, the service connection to the sanitary main will likely not be cheap.
2. is there a dedicated electrical panel in your garage? Any idea what amperage it's rated for? If there already is a sub panel in the garage, an upgrade wouldn't be all that bad.
3. like you mentioned, the duct work will need to be installed. That could likely be a big ticket item, as something would have to be designed specifically for your garage. I'd maybe look into the codes and try designing it yourself. It'll save you a ton of cash.
4. would the stairs be inside the garage, or outside? Just consider the lost square footage inside the garage, by having the stairs there. You'll also lose some square footage on the upper floor too. Not a huge loss, but if you only have 400 sqft, every foot counts.
5. Insulation shouldn't be all that bad, price wise. However, getting drywall up there might be a pain. you could either cut the wall open and bring it in via zoomboom, or try lugging it up the stairs otherwise, but, if you have to turn a corner, you'll be cursing night and day.
6. I assume you likely have to provide your municipality with engineered and stamped drawings for this. Generally, structural changes will require a stamping engineer and I don't believe you can do it yourself (unless it's different in FL).
so sell, wait for the crash again, and buy
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