Hey guys,


As some of you know. I currently have my next set of rims being built right now. I have about a month until they are complete so I'm looking into tires. My dad is a manager for Tirerack.com and can get me tires at whole sale pricing. (Deals, I know lol). If price wasn't an issue, what tires would you guys run? There are so many options. These will only be ran during summer so I'm looking for a summer tire. They will probably see around 2-3000 miles a year max. My current setup is Nitto Invo's and they are nice and pretty sticky. Tread life has been great but looking for something better. Tire size will be 245/35/20. Any input is appreciated. I know ultimately its up to me but like insight from others.

Thanks!

 

The super sticky Michelin Pilot Super Sport summer tires.

 

+1

 

I have been think about the Super Sports. Thanks guys.

 

I guess I should put they will be stretched.

 

+1 for the Super sports. Heard nothing but praise from em. How wide are the wheels gonna be? Oooor is that a secret? :o

 

Wide enough. Lol. I'll find out my price on the tires tomorrow.

 

Super sports. Cuz I have them and they are amazing! Riding in rails.

 

Look at Toyo Proxies too. (Only cause I want them just as bad haha)

 

My price on the Super sports is $227/tire so I save roughly $48/tire. Toyo Proxies aren't bad. I've ran them in the past.

 

Price not an issue PSS every time.

 

That's my tire choice then. Thanks guys!

 

not sure how the PSS will handle being stretched since the sidewall for the tire isn't designed to be as such an angle when mounted....

 

My choice would be PSS if money is no issue. Although I really want to try the Conti DW.

 

I'll let you know how they turn out.

 

Probably keep looking in the mean time. Talk to my GTR buddies since the tires I'm interested in are what they run.

 

I'm here waiting to still waiting to see them IW

 

Shit me too!

 

I've had both. The Proxies are garbage in comparison.

And the PSS were cheaper. I just paid $520 for my S2000's set (after $70 rebate)

 

Hmmmm so I recommended PSS butttt I didn't take 2 factors into consideration, 1 you're stretching out the tire, some tires stretch better than others, I believe pss has a fairly rigid side wall, and so my stretch poorly depending on how aggressive you're going. 2 I bought PSS for my 20's, then I stanced out and guess what I had to drive like a grandma because aggressive driving would cause me to scrape or rub. At which point made pss a COMPLETE waste. I understand you're getting that at a deep discount and it'll definitely get you brownie points at whatever meet competition, but thinking about how you ride, I'd get something cheaper like conti dw or even hankook v12 at a deep discount, then spend extra money on PSS and not be able to use them.

 

Thanks for your inputHearTLs. Im not looking to gain kudos at a show for tires. I want it for spirited driving when I need em. I usually cruise not too worried about rubbing but it's a possibility with my new specs.

I have a week or two to figure out tires. Just recieved an update. Wheels are almost complete!

 

Just tell us the specs already man, I'm dying to knooow

 

More aggressive then my current setup. Once I receive them and slap them on the car I'll crack. Until then. No leaking.

 

Pfft that aint no fun. Probably 20x11 -25 Fronts/ 20x14 -30 Rears.

I'm close right??

 

Haha close enough. Wife thinks I should wait to install the wheels until I buy my air ride.

 

Haha nice. I'm looking to get bags myself. Just need to decide on a brand.

 

A lot of options out there now. I've been leaning towards Airlift with 3H management recently.

 

Yea, I really thought the decision would be easier but I got some research/homework to do before making a decision.

 

Personally, I hated the Nitto Invos. Had them on my 3G TL when I first bought it. I didn't think the grip was anything that great. Same with Toyo Proxes. Both tires aren't bad, but there are much better options.

People seem to love the Michelin pilot super sports. I've never tried them, to be honest, but from what I do know- they are expensive for what you get. A great tire at an unnecessarily high price.

My personal favorite? Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 or RE-11A (same tire). I ramble about this tire every time someone asks what to get. Price isn't bad and dry weather grip is scary. Terrifying. These tires grip harder than what I can even put my TL through. In many corners, I'm unable to get them to break loose. I seriously have to try to break traction with them and by that point, the car is going through a corner at balls-to-the-wall speeds. Wet weather traction? Not as good (duh), but still better than pretty much any other summer tire I've driven on.

They have a super low tread wear rating, however, I've found these tires to last me a lot of miles. Spinning the tires might kill them fast, but I'm not one to do burnouts, ever, so I can't comment on that. Otherwise, I have no idea how they're rated so low, as I've been able to get about 35k miles out of a set.

They're pricier than many tires out there, but cheaper than the PSS. Just something to consider.

 

Just did a quick google search- sounds like people are able to get the PSS for a bit cheaper than the RE-11A. Not around here, though.

Coming from Porsche guys, this is what they say:

PSS is better when tires are cold and have a softer side wall.

RE-11A is more geared towards all out performance. Not as good when cold, however, outperform PSS when warm. Also has stiffer side wall. I've never noticed them to be noisy either, after having them mounted on a few different cars. Can't speak for the PSS.

I guess it comes down to how hard you drive and what climate you're in!

 

I choose Continental DW. I did consider Bridgestones too. It took me 3 years before I got new tires because I don't drive too much either.

 

Good info Taco. My personal driving style is to cruise. Maybe take off at a stop light or some freeway pulls. I also do hit corners hard sometimes but not much. I couldn't break traction at a stop even if I wanted to in my TL (AWD). Mainly looking for good traction. The tires won't see too many miles as they will be on my show wheels which I most likely will run during the summer when I feel like stuntin so tread life isn't a deal breaker for me. Plus I average 4500 miles a year since it is not my daily. I am however located in Seattle where we get a good amount of rain but a lot of sun as well. We rarely see temperatures in the 100's let alone 90's.

 

Hey, I'm in Edmonton... we don't get that warm either


To be honest, I think I will likely pick up a set of Michelin's for my next summer tires... I just want to be able to compare experiences more thoroughly. Just judging by what you posted above, I don't think you can go wrong with either the RE-11A or the PSS... they're both great tires and you likely won't see many downsides until you are seriously pushing either, in whatever scenario you're in.

 

One major drawback for the RE-11 is the heavy tire weight.

In fact, all similar tires in the RE-11 category (Extreme Performance) are heavy, due to the extra reinforcement in construction that is needed to withstand running flat out on the race tracks.

Using the 245/40/19 size as a comparison, the RE-11 weighs in at 29lbs, while the PSS merely at 25lbs.

Unsprung weight kills handling performance big time, and 4lbs of extra dead weight at each corner of the car become very significant in hurting handling performance.

Extra unsprung weight become insignificant if the car has lots of torque and power, but unfortunately our 4G TL don't.

I made a mistake once by using the heavy Bridgestone RE-010R (predecessor to the RE-11) on my 2G TL-S.

I had spent $$$$$ for some light-weight forged wheel for higher performance, but to have the heavy tires ruined it all.

Due to the heavier tire weight, there were significant degradation in throttle response and also acceleration/braking performance.

In addition, the extra traction/performance of the RE-010R/RE-11 (Extreme Performance Category) over the PS2/PSS (Max Performance Category) can't never be fully utilized unless one really tracks the car and pushes the car to the very limit of adhesion all the times.

Thus, the PSS remains to be a better choice for everyday handling performance, unless one takes the car to the race tracks.

 

This was a great topic since most of the tire talk is either about fitment or comparing all seasons.

I appreciate everyone's input and knowledge.

 

Was going to reply to Taco, but Edward hit it right on the nail. If you're putting down crazy numbers the difference in 4lbs per corner is barely noticeable if at all. when I bought forged wheels with weight in mind, not really though, I bought 20's lol, there was no way I was going to slap on a heavy tire and nullify the thousands I'd spent on forged weight savings.

Carbon you're going to be stanced, on heavy wheels and riding on stretched tires, the more I think about it, the more a fat girl in cleats comes to mind. Get Conti DW, they perform well, aren't heavy, are inexpensive compared to PSS and the tread pattern looks great if you care about that sort of thing.

 

Well I opted for DWS just incase the I hit some unexpected weather. $751 shipped to me. Saved a few hundred by going with those instead of the PSS. I'm happy with the purchase and they arrive in 2-3 days so I should have my new wheels mounted this week.

 

You genuinely won't be disappointed with them. DWS is a solid tire.

 

DWS or DWS06?

 

DWS06, only ones Tirerack had in 245/35/20. They didn't offer DWS or DW in that tire size.