A few pics
04-04-2008, 10:44 PM
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A few pics
I just put up on my page (click here ) , three high-res pics of the TSX wearing a full body kit, rims, spoiler, and side moldings. Hopefully I'll be able to add the rest of the accessory pics on Monday, heck I'm hoping we get our cars on Monday!
04-04-2008, 11:30 PM
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I agree.
I think the body kit and the wheels do nothing for it.
It gives me the same feel that it does stock, which is strange.
Oh well. I guess this one just isn't for us.
I wish you luck selling them Colin.
Just noticed, it has a spoiler too... still nothing.
God there's something very wrong with those fender flares.
You'll need 20's just to make them look not so gaudy.
I think the body kit and the wheels do nothing for it.
It gives me the same feel that it does stock, which is strange.
Oh well. I guess this one just isn't for us.
I wish you luck selling them Colin.
Just noticed, it has a spoiler too... still nothing.
God there's something very wrong with those fender flares.
You'll need 20's just to make them look not so gaudy.
04-04-2008, 11:52 PM
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I know how you all feel, but I can't say it enough. I believe you are all wrong about the prospects for this car. It may not appeal to current TSX owners, but it is an outstanding entry level car.
If the price stays around the current cars price, it will do just fine. I know that if they had left the styling the same, someone would complain that "Honda has boring looking cars" I know that if they kept it the same size someone would complain that "it's not big enough" The list goes on and on but I think you get the point.
If the price stays around the current cars price, it will do just fine. I know that if they had left the styling the same, someone would complain that "Honda has boring looking cars" I know that if they kept it the same size someone would complain that "it's not big enough" The list goes on and on but I think you get the point.
04-05-2008, 12:29 AM
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Yeah we understand that.
We generally think it'll sell about the same as the old one,
but the people who buy it will change quite a bit.
You'll probably see internet forum talk and aftermarket part sales/production
go down. This car is much less for the "tuner" sort of folk that like to
modify their car beyond factory options and gain better performance.
Most of us will move to other companies or consider the new TL if it doesn't
follow suit from the TSX.
This seems to be the general opinion.
Not saying it's a bad car, but it's just not the kind of car this crowd likes.
Honda/Acura is obviously taking it in a different direction.
We generally think it'll sell about the same as the old one,
but the people who buy it will change quite a bit.
You'll probably see internet forum talk and aftermarket part sales/production
go down. This car is much less for the "tuner" sort of folk that like to
modify their car beyond factory options and gain better performance.
Most of us will move to other companies or consider the new TL if it doesn't
follow suit from the TSX.
This seems to be the general opinion.
Not saying it's a bad car, but it's just not the kind of car this crowd likes.
Honda/Acura is obviously taking it in a different direction.
04-05-2008, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Colin
I know how you all feel, but I can't say it enough. I believe you are all wrong about the prospects for this car. It may not appeal to current TSX owners, but it is an outstanding entry level car.
If the price stays around the current cars price, it will do just fine. I know that if they had left the styling the same, someone would complain that "Honda has boring looking cars" I know that if they kept it the same size someone would complain that "it's not big enough" The list goes on and on but I think you get the point.
If the price stays around the current cars price, it will do just fine. I know that if they had left the styling the same, someone would complain that "Honda has boring looking cars" I know that if they kept it the same size someone would complain that "it's not big enough" The list goes on and on but I think you get the point.
This car will appeal to people moving up from Honda or other non-luxury brands; statistically, people who buy luxury cars get hooked and usually move up in power, size and luxury. They are not the type of people who see cars as appliances and buy Camrys or Accords their entire life. So staying with the same specs of the original TSX while adding more tech amenities is very smart IMHO or brilliant I should say..
Current TSX owners probably didn't complain about their 205hp when they first bought their cars, so why should future TSX owners complain (?)
The critical part for Acura is to make sure TSX owners stay with Acura, that's why the new TL is of paramount importance as a jump into a real luxury car.
04-05-2008, 01:25 AM
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Question for ya Colin
I think the car looks pretty good with or without the bodykit. Do you know if the front and rear are going to be full bumper replacements or are they going to be tacked on like the first gen?
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I think the TSX looks ok. It's not the best IMO, but I can live with how that car looks. I don't think I'd need the body kit, but that's one of the colors I like.
About the TSX's sales. I suspect it won't be as bad as many people here insist. Generally, people who browse enthusiast websites are very particular in their tastes, and lean heavily toward criticism and pessimism if the design doesn't appeal to them. The new TSX may actually appeal more to the masses than the previous version, because it is bigger (but not huge) -- also some neat tech features were added.
I definitely would have liked some different design choices and features than will be offered, but I'm still going to consider it when I buy a car. There are plenty of buyers like me who basically want an upscale version of a Honda.
The TSX interests me because the Accord is just too much of a boat these days. Also, it is indeed slightly more upscale. The omission of xenon bulbs on the Accord is a HUGE drawback. I'd look a lot more carefully at it if it had HIDs, because they just illuminate the road so much better. As for the TSX: throw in a diesel engine to provide a lot more torque, price it reasonably, and Acura might have a buyer.
About the TSX's sales. I suspect it won't be as bad as many people here insist. Generally, people who browse enthusiast websites are very particular in their tastes, and lean heavily toward criticism and pessimism if the design doesn't appeal to them. The new TSX may actually appeal more to the masses than the previous version, because it is bigger (but not huge) -- also some neat tech features were added.
I definitely would have liked some different design choices and features than will be offered, but I'm still going to consider it when I buy a car. There are plenty of buyers like me who basically want an upscale version of a Honda.
The TSX interests me because the Accord is just too much of a boat these days. Also, it is indeed slightly more upscale. The omission of xenon bulbs on the Accord is a HUGE drawback. I'd look a lot more carefully at it if it had HIDs, because they just illuminate the road so much better. As for the TSX: throw in a diesel engine to provide a lot more torque, price it reasonably, and Acura might have a buyer.
04-05-2008, 07:26 AM
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You know, without those hideous wheel arches and the beak, the car would actually look pretty good and be a reasonable evolution of the 1st gen model, especially with the body kit.
I do hope the TSX sells well enough to stick around to have a 3rd generation with a revised RWD or AWD chassis, a longitudinal engine layout, and some truly proper and attractive design.
I do hope the TSX sells well enough to stick around to have a 3rd generation with a revised RWD or AWD chassis, a longitudinal engine layout, and some truly proper and attractive design.
04-05-2008, 10:50 AM
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After seeing it kitted out, the words "Corolla Type S" just came to mind. 
I think its the rear profile that is killing it for me. Its so plain jane. I know people are polarized by the front of it, but at least there is somebody's interpretation of style there. The rear just makes me think "entry level" for some reason. I never felt that way about the 1G, in fact, the triple circle tails were a major style ++ for me, and I wish they would have kept that design element.
I think its the rear profile that is killing it for me. Its so plain jane. I know people are polarized by the front of it, but at least there is somebody's interpretation of style there. The rear just makes me think "entry level" for some reason. I never felt that way about the 1G, in fact, the triple circle tails were a major style ++ for me, and I wish they would have kept that design element.
04-06-2008, 01:29 PM
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"shaka, bro'" for the pics, Colin
I have newfound love for the stock body kit... Something about that new front says, "General Grievious."
No, seriously, I agree with what Colin says. And this body kit underlines what the strategy is. Clearly, Acura is trying to attract a slightly different (younger?) crowd with the more aggressive looking '09 TSX, without doinking around too much with the performance success already attained. For those of us already initiated, a TSX-S, or a TLS-S, ought to be our next lily pad.
What disappoints me is that the 2004-2008 TSX is a cheetah dressed up as a puma. It's sleek enough looking, doesn't say "Look at me!", but can rip 'n roar with some of the best in its class (entry level, upscale sedans). A light dusting with sweet de luxe here and there, and you had a nice compromise between various interests, at a "can't beat this" price point. Debadged, mine really disappears into the crowd like a good superspy ought to.* Now.... Oh, well. Sophomore attempts, particularly for filmmakers and car makers, can be a crucial test for longevity. Will it live up to the initial buzz, or indicate that first blush was a fluke.
About that Fu Manchu front end ... I think it just needs a little more thickness to that bottom lip. never mind that this car now appears to have two mouths.
*Anyone seen the film, The Worlds Fastest Indian? I love the scene when doing a "speed trial," Burt Munro gets up to 90mph, the Bonneville veterans in a pace car are shaking their heads and laughing that the old coot is making it that fast on a 1920s motorcycle, and then ... he shifts into second. Slight cough from the pipe, and vroom. Leaves them behind, jaws open in disbelief. That's what my TSX feels like some days when I drop the hammer on some tailgating SUV slob or cell phone addicted soccer mom. Like Burt Munro, the 2004-2008 TSX doesn't look like much ("quiet good looks" they used to say), but....
No, seriously, I agree with what Colin says. And this body kit underlines what the strategy is. Clearly, Acura is trying to attract a slightly different (younger?) crowd with the more aggressive looking '09 TSX, without doinking around too much with the performance success already attained. For those of us already initiated, a TSX-S, or a TLS-S, ought to be our next lily pad.
What disappoints me is that the 2004-2008 TSX is a cheetah dressed up as a puma. It's sleek enough looking, doesn't say "Look at me!", but can rip 'n roar with some of the best in its class (entry level, upscale sedans). A light dusting with sweet de luxe here and there, and you had a nice compromise between various interests, at a "can't beat this" price point. Debadged, mine really disappears into the crowd like a good superspy ought to.* Now.... Oh, well. Sophomore attempts, particularly for filmmakers and car makers, can be a crucial test for longevity. Will it live up to the initial buzz, or indicate that first blush was a fluke.
About that Fu Manchu front end ... I think it just needs a little more thickness to that bottom lip. never mind that this car now appears to have two mouths.
*Anyone seen the film, The Worlds Fastest Indian? I love the scene when doing a "speed trial," Burt Munro gets up to 90mph, the Bonneville veterans in a pace car are shaking their heads and laughing that the old coot is making it that fast on a 1920s motorcycle, and then ... he shifts into second. Slight cough from the pipe, and vroom. Leaves them behind, jaws open in disbelief. That's what my TSX feels like some days when I drop the hammer on some tailgating SUV slob or cell phone addicted soccer mom. Like Burt Munro, the 2004-2008 TSX doesn't look like much ("quiet good looks" they used to say), but....
04-08-2008, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Colin
I just put up on my page (click here ) , three high-res pics of the TSX wearing a full body kit, rims, spoiler, and side moldings. Hopefully I'll be able to add the rest of the accessory pics on Monday, heck I'm hoping we get our cars on Monday!
Overall, I was very impressed with the look of the car in person. The interior looks great as well. Much more roomy compared to the 1st gen.
To all the nay-sayers, I would hold judgment until you see the car in person.
Can't say the same for the performance though. On that end, the car was not as exciting. But for the average buyer, it should be enough.
04-08-2008, 03:00 AM
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Saw the car in person today and the body kit looks great in person. The wheels don't look bad as well, but they are just like the MDX and RDX style, just in 18" size instead. The rear trunk lip spoiler fits nicely to set off the bodykit.
Overall, I was very impressed with the look of the car in person. The interior looks great as well. Much more roomy compared to the 1st gen.
To all the nay-sayers, I would hold judgment until you see the car in person.
Can't say the same for the performance though. On that end, the car was not as exciting. But for the average buyer, it should be enough.
Overall, I was very impressed with the look of the car in person. The interior looks great as well. Much more roomy compared to the 1st gen.
To all the nay-sayers, I would hold judgment until you see the car in person.
Can't say the same for the performance though. On that end, the car was not as exciting. But for the average buyer, it should be enough.
04-08-2008, 10:14 AM
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I agree, it isn't that nice and I think only the side skirts were added on, the front and the rear bumpers are one piece. I am in Canada and I really want to see it in person though.
Very high res pics though, thank you!
Very high res pics though, thank you!
04-08-2008, 10:49 AM
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yeah, i looked at the pics, and i don't see a start/end for these lips. is it a full bumper replacement?
honestly, if this is the same kit that was on the euro accord from the geneva pics, it looks better in white. but i'm really not liking all those lines from the side profile.
honestly, if this is the same kit that was on the euro accord from the geneva pics, it looks better in white. but i'm really not liking all those lines from the side profile.
04-08-2008, 11:22 AM
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cool page colin, i viewed the motorweek review and was surprised they praised the new TSX that well. only disappointed that they didn't do any performance tests at all.
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Good work on the page, awesome write ups!
After reading the specs, for some reason the car looks a lot better than I thought.
But really this car, though at first an eyesore, is waaay better than the current generation. (Had to say it.)
I can't wait for the MUGEN version of this car, it's gonna be awesome!!
After reading the specs, for some reason the car looks a lot better than I thought.
But really this car, though at first an eyesore, is waaay better than the current generation. (Had to say it.)
I can't wait for the MUGEN version of this car, it's gonna be awesome!!
04-08-2008, 01:26 PM
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Thanks for the pics Colin.
So it's going to start at $28k for you guys down in the States huh? Any idea of the Canadian MSRP? I read somewhere that the base now comes with cloth instead of leather seats
So it's going to start at $28k for you guys down in the States huh? Any idea of the Canadian MSRP? I read somewhere that the base now comes with cloth instead of leather seats
04-08-2008, 03:06 PM
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i viewed the motorweek review and was surprised they praised the new TSX that well. only disappointed that they didn't do any performance tests at all.
Let the guys over at Top Gear or Fifth Gear have a go at it.
04-08-2008, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by feelgood13
where did you go to see the car with body kit? Looks like it not a kit but rather a full front/rear bumper replacement. correct me if i'm wrong.
Front and rear are full bumper replacements.
04-08-2008, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PACman
Motorweek praises everything. If they do have something harsh to say, they come around pointing to what's tangible. Like "It has a modest inline-4 making XXX horsepower, but the car has eye-catching looks and is a solid ride!"
Let the guys over at Top Gear or Fifth Gear have a go at it.
Let the guys over at Top Gear or Fifth Gear have a go at it.
04-08-2008, 06:39 PM
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http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail....3&last=5619451
Their new TSX has arrived. Colin, how about yours?
Their new TSX has arrived. Colin, how about yours?
04-08-2008, 06:54 PM
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Nope! Somewhat irritatingly, the cars are on the island but they're holding them in the port. No idea when they'll deliver them.
04-08-2008, 09:07 PM
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besides the grill (which i hope be swapped to an original honda one later on), the car's not that bad, imo the interior is better so although the car overall is not much of an improvement over the current gen, it's definitely not worse in terms of look
at least in my opinion was again
at least in my opinion was again
04-09-2008, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 5thTo2nd
So it's going to start at $28k for you guys down in the States huh? Any idea of the Canadian MSRP? I read somewhere that the base now comes with cloth instead of leather seats
04-09-2008, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by human668
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail....3&last=5619451
Their new TSX has arrived. Colin, how about yours?
Their new TSX has arrived. Colin, how about yours?
But I'm beginning to like how the parking brake lever integrates into the door-to-armrest trim swoop. I'm curious, you guys who play with it ... slide a disc in with the AT full forward (in P). Does it clear it easily. Looks like it does just barely....
And where IS the MID now? It doesn't seem to be in the tach....
04-12-2008, 10:21 PM
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Sheet, those cars have been there since last week Wednesday. They;re holding them for some reason till after the dealer show in New Orleans. 
04-13-2008, 03:14 PM
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I finally noticed that the bodykit is the same as the one from the White Euro Accord at Geneva, damn it looks better in white, I feel the front and back sensors make it nicer too for some reason. Plus the headlight cleaners. Why are we always skimped on tech's?!?
04-13-2008, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by LaZyPiGgY
I finally noticed that the bodykit is the same as the one from the White Euro Accord at Geneva, damn it looks better in white, I feel the front and back sensors make it nicer too for some reason. Plus the headlight cleaners. Why are we always skimped on tech's?!?
To answer the second part of the question, I believe it's because there is no higher model than the Accord in Europe (not counting the RL?). This car must do battle for the entire Honda line so it will have more features than our car. I would guess that in relative $$$ it costs more too (though I don't know for sure).
04-13-2008, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Colin
You only noticed that the kits are the same now? To answer the second part of the question, I believe it's because there is no higher model than the Accord in Europe (not counting the RL?). This car must do battle for the entire Honda line so it will have more features than our car. I would guess that in relative $$$ it costs more too (though I don't know for sure).
To answer the second part of the question, I believe it's because there is no higher model than the Accord in Europe (not counting the RL?). This car must do battle for the entire Honda line so it will have more features than our car. I would guess that in relative $$$ it costs more too (though I don't know for sure).What you say sounds about right, though wouldn't it be a good idea to at least put them in as OPTIONS? instead of standard equip.
04-13-2008, 07:39 PM
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But we don't do options!
04-14-2008, 12:24 AM
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It kinda looks good. Just hope it will have a more powerful engine. put some nice rims on it, give it a drop and nice kit, wouldn't look bad at all.
04-14-2008, 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by kowloonsniperhk
I wonder if the TSX will be able to compete with the Lexus IS250 or IS350 in the "VIP" segment.