2012 Wagon AC-Bearing not fixed.. SQUEAK SQUEAL

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Old 09-01-2015, 12:11 PM
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2012 Wagon AC-Bearing not fixed.. SQUEAK SQUEAL

Ok so after reading the forum about 4 months ago, my car started making the A/C bearing noise.


Noise only happens when accelerating between 2500-3700rpm only, with the A/C on.


It is a squeak/squeal.


Car is under warranty. Was at dealer for 2 weeks, while they waited for parts (some other things as well).


They changed the bearings per recall. They even changed the belt.


Noise remains.


Any ideas/Help? They are willing to work with me, but we are at a loss for what it might be




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<p>I think it may be time for a new wagon. Seems like that thing is a lemon with all your warranty repairs.</p>
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sqqqqqqqqqeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

my squeak was the idler pulley. but happened even when the A/C was off though.
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Seriously, seems like you've had a lot of issues with your wagon. How many miles are you at?
Old 09-01-2015, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by iCrap
sqqqqqqqqqeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

my squeak was the idler pulley. but happened even when the A/C was off though.
Initially dealer said no squeak
till I test drove it with them


then I actually printed your previous response from the forum
and they changed the bearing


mine only does it when A/C is on, thus I didn't think it was idler pulley.


Car goes back to dealer Thursday. So I wanted to check in with you guys before sending it back in to see if you recommend anything else
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Originally Posted by rawger
Seriously, seems like you've had a lot of issues with your wagon. How many miles are you at?
36,540


9 dealer visits total
Warranty repairs so far, $5138.75, per dealer.
Old 09-01-2015, 04:10 PM
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Still can be the idler pulley, just think when the A/C engages it does put more drag on the belt, and that can make a bearing that is fine under normal load make noise under pressure. Worth a shot.
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Originally Posted by briq456
Still can be the idler pulley, just think when the A/C engages it does put more drag on the belt, and that can make a bearing that is fine under normal load make noise under pressure. Worth a shot.
Appreciate the help

Will tell them to check it out then
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<p>I'd be asking to get a different loaner car with every visit. Test out the whole Acura line up by now.</p>
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Originally Posted by ulrblitzer
<p>I'd be asking to get a different loaner car with every visit. Test out the whole Acura line up by now.</p>
Well we have had the ilx, rdx, and mdx mostly

We had the tlx recently where we out about 1200 miles in 2 weeks (I posted in tlx forum)

I prefer my wagon to all the stuff they make now .

We haven't driven the tlx v6 which may be a good drive , I don't know
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I've had two wagons. The first with about 28k miles and the current one with about 35k miles. I've had nothing but routine maintenance.

If I were you, I'd speak to a lemon lawyer. Sure, you're out of the lemon period, but you've had significant issues that are unusual and not typical of the car.

While you might not get the car bought back, you will undoubtedly get some sort of consideration.

PM me if you'd like more info.
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Originally Posted by ceb
I've had two wagons. The first with about 28k miles and the current one with about 35k miles. I've had nothing but routine maintenance.

If I were you, I'd speak to a lemon lawyer. Sure, you're out of the lemon period, but you've had significant issues that are unusual and not typical of the car.

While you might not get the car bought back, you will undoubtedly get some sort of consideration.

PM me if you'd like more info.
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36,540


9 dealer visits total
Warranty repairs so far, $5138.75, per dealer.
Hell, at this point, I'd say don't worry about a Lemon Lawyer. Just keep taking it back and eventually they'll have replaced absolutely everything on the car except maybe the unibody and the oil filler and you'll have basically the only 2016 TSX Wagon... In the world...

Or, HondAcura will eventually see how much they're paying out and just not return it one trip. You'll just never get a call to pick it up and they'll take the loss on the loaner they let you keep.

Sort of like Demuro's Carmax Land Rover saga, I'm morbidly curious how far you can take these repairs (and I think you might be as well!).
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Old 09-02-2015, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by cu2wagon
Hell, at this point, I'd say don't worry about a Lemon Lawyer. Just keep taking it back and eventually they'll have replaced absolutely everything on the car except maybe the unibody and the oil filler and you'll have basically the only 2016 TSX Wagon... In the world...

Or, HondAcura will eventually see how much they're paying out and just not return it one trip. You'll just never get a call to pick it up and they'll take the loss on the loaner they let you keep.

Sort of like Demuro's Carmax Land Rover saga, I'm morbidly curious how far you can take these repairs (and I think you might be as well!).
But then he has to make sure that he gets a loaner he really likes
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Easy, just start complaining about things on the loaner until he gets the car he wants.
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That is what happened when I took the car in last. They said 2 days. Then 4 days. Every 2 days they called and extended it, till the car was there for full 2 weeks


Anyway, took it out for a drive today to isolate the noise a bit more:
  • Noise happens between certain rmp only
  • squeak last for 4-5 seconds goes away
  • every few minute squeak comes back
  • if fan is on, but a/c off, no noise
  • a/c button has to be on for noise
  • if I let off the gas pedal while noise happens, noise still remains
  • noise starts at a low frequency then increases to full squeak/whistle
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<p>Damn, sucks that you are having all these issues....</p>
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Originally Posted by 2012wagon

I prefer my wagon to all the stuff they make now .
I feel the same way. The new stuff just doesn't "thrill" me. My wagon, with about 45k miles has had mostly routine maintenance. A few non-routine items:

1. battery died twice. Did a jump start the first time and was ok for a while. Dealer checked and said nothing was wrong. When it died a second time, the dealer replaced the battery for free.

2. TSB - windshield trim popped off. Fixed, no charge.

3. Small leak involving transmission fluid. Fixed under warranty.

4. Occasional burning smell from the front. When I was removing the winter tires, I realized one wheel had 2 lug nuts that were way over-torqued. I think the service guy at the dealer made the mistake. No more burning smell.

I feel for you -- owning a TSX Wagon should be a fun experience but I like how you made it an opportunity to test drive new cars, and to share with this forum.
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Funny thing is battery is a TSX problem I hear a lot. Only problem my car hasn't had!


Car is still at dealer


Last TLX we put 1500 miles, god knows how many more miles we will putting on this TLX


https://acurazine.com/forums/fifth-g.../#post15547351
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Per dealer noise is from expansion valve


Has been ordered, will be here Thursday


Interestingly enough lots of Gen 1 TSX owners had same problem, where dealer replaced all bearings, belts, pulleys, only to find its the expansion valve:


https://acurazine.com/forums/problem...-sound-675749/




https://acurazine.com/forums/problem...-valve-855107/
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If that works for you i'll do that also... looks like the part is only like $20.
edit: wait nevermind.. since my noise is there regardless of AC on or off it's probably not that.
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Don't do anyting yet.


If the dealer ever gives my car back, I will test it and let you know
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Old 09-24-2015, 07:59 PM
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Any update 2012wagon? My car is making the same noise and I am trying to figure out how to proceed
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that would so annoy me...I'd love to hear the outcome.
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Curious here as well.
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Also wondering, my rolling POS is squealing as well still.
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the autotensioner assembly with all those extra pulleys on it made horrendous sound at like 35K miles on my TL.
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Originally Posted by blacktsxwagon
Any update 2012wagon? My car is making the same noise and I am trying to figure out how to proceed
Apologize for late reply

After replacing all pulleys and belts and noise not going away

Finally dealer figured it out
Part number is
80221 tco z41

Expansion valve


Love warranty

All noise gone
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Thanks so much! I will give this a shot soon. Not making the noise now that I am starting to use heat vs. AC. I feel fairly confident that this is my issue as well.
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You are welcome.


Living in LA, we never use the heat. I just put the car in re-circ mode in winter (no outside air comes in), and put seat heater on full. Then again, that is usually a 65 degree day


Good luck!
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