2012 Accord v6 vs 2012 TSX base
#1
2012 Accord v6 vs 2012 TSX base
Hi guys, my parents are in the market for buying a new car. They want an Accord v6 simply because of the fact that it can make traveling more "easier"/for the power(from Nebraska to Cali to visit grandma) but I am telling them that v6 does not matter that much? Can anyone list the pros and cons of each vehicle?
#2
sounds retarded (no offense mom and dad)
if your dad really wants a v6 though thats a good idea.
The v6 really doesnt matter much, the i4 (and most i4s these days) has more than enough power to make highway cruising a breeze. I love driving from boston to ny in mine and never feel underwhelmed by the power unless i am trying to overtake at like 80 degrees.
Also, the TSX is waaaaaaay more comfortable and definitely a touch above the accord is most all aspects. Its leather, it has HID, its classy, its comfy, why would you want anything else?
Unless you are dieing for that 280 hp V6, id skip the accord and grab an Acura.
if your dad really wants a v6 though thats a good idea.
The v6 really doesnt matter much, the i4 (and most i4s these days) has more than enough power to make highway cruising a breeze. I love driving from boston to ny in mine and never feel underwhelmed by the power unless i am trying to overtake at like 80 degrees.
Also, the TSX is waaaaaaay more comfortable and definitely a touch above the accord is most all aspects. Its leather, it has HID, its classy, its comfy, why would you want anything else?
Unless you are dieing for that 280 hp V6, id skip the accord and grab an Acura.
#3
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Traveling easier? Based on hp/cylinders? Uhh last I heard traveling time is based off speed...so yea sure your dad could get to places faster in a V6...but that would mean he'd have to push the car past legal speed limits. and probably up to the max allotted speed for both cars...in order to "get there faster". I really fail to see your parents logic in this...
#4
Accord V6 AT: 271hp 254ftlb, 20/30 mpg, regular fuel
TSX I4 AT: 201hp 170ftlb, 22/31 mpg, premium fuel recommended (regular will expect loss in power/fuel eco)
Accord is slightly cheaper for traveling(premium fuel will probably scare them away from the TSX). Accord only weighs 100lb more, so it will definitely out accelerate a TSX. I even feel my 6MT TSX is a pig compared to my fiance's 03 Accord V6 AT(240hp). Performance wise I'd go with the Accord. Not sure on the ride quality, but the Accord is ugly and TSX is pretty.
Tell them to go test drive both and choose what they like, fairly simple
TSX I4 AT: 201hp 170ftlb, 22/31 mpg, premium fuel recommended (regular will expect loss in power/fuel eco)
Accord is slightly cheaper for traveling(premium fuel will probably scare them away from the TSX). Accord only weighs 100lb more, so it will definitely out accelerate a TSX. I even feel my 6MT TSX is a pig compared to my fiance's 03 Accord V6 AT(240hp). Performance wise I'd go with the Accord. Not sure on the ride quality, but the Accord is ugly and TSX is pretty.
Tell them to go test drive both and choose what they like, fairly simple
Last edited by komplexZ; 10-19-2011 at 06:54 PM.
#5
Hm.. thanks thanks. I asked my friend he said that v6 normally has more "parts" in it and more "parts" means more maintenance and more chances of problems occurring.
I am going to try to convince my parents to get the TSX instead of the Accord.
I am going to try to convince my parents to get the TSX instead of the Accord.
#7
HMMM
v6 afaik doesnt necessarily mean any more maintenance than normal
and AWD system maybe, but a NA V6 not so much.
Get the luxury experienceeee
drove an accord for a few days and it sucked so hard compared to the tsx
v6 afaik doesnt necessarily mean any more maintenance than normal
and AWD system maybe, but a NA V6 not so much.
Get the luxury experienceeee
drove an accord for a few days and it sucked so hard compared to the tsx
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#9
Usually the smaller engines wear out earlier than the larger engines due to the fact that they have to do more work in comparison to their larger counterparts which also means more wear.
Accord = For old people, drives like a cloudy boat.
TSX = More sport/driver orientated, might feel a few more bumps because of this than the cloud boat Accord.
#11
80degrees... lolwutbro?
#13
Three Wheelin'
Hi guys, my parents are in the market for buying a new car. They want an Accord v6 simply because of the fact that it can make traveling more "easier"/for the power(from Nebraska to Cali to visit grandma) but I am telling them that v6 does not matter that much? Can anyone list the pros and cons of each vehicle?
My first advice, stay away from new generation accords. Specially the 4 cylindar models, they have rough idling issues. Not to mention the ugly old 7-series rear look.
the interior quality is also subpar. just walk away from honda dealer feeling
secondly, as soon as you move into V6, you get crappy gas mileage. All those V6 cars with 30mpg gas adverts are BS. only in highway cruising with unloaded car can you get +30mpg with v6.
third, The TSX is nice and it doesn't suffer from accord's bad looks or rough idling. it does have some minor issues, some people complain of engine pinging. Not much really. The interior is certainly better than Accord's as well. TSX 4-cyl pulls great gas mileage and has good mid range punch. The only downside, it takes premium
finally, if a TSX is over your budget, consider other vehicles like the sonata, fusion or jetta.
Last edited by pickler; 10-19-2011 at 10:29 PM.
#14
i just saw my mistake
fuck you guys, i only overtake when its cold outside
fuck you guys, i only overtake when its cold outside
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For longer trips, the I4 would be a better choice because of gas mileage as well.
And if your parents are seriously going to break laws to get somewhere faster, that doesn't really matter either since top speed of both cars are electronically limited to like 125. So the only difference would be the amount of time to reach that speed. Which isn't something I think your parents would be doing (unless their names were modesto).
And speaking of longer trips, TSX also wins in interior treatment as well. I have a cousin with an accord, and when we go into the city with a group of people, they all end up wanting to go in the TSX because of the comfort level.
The TSX is also sexier.
Made in Japan as well, and honestly I feel it's made and put together better than an Accord.
And you also won't see very many other TSXs out on the road as opposed to the Accord where you'll see your twins everywhere. I was once in a pack of 6 8th gen accord 4 sedens and 2 coupes TRUE STORY.
And if your parents are seriously going to break laws to get somewhere faster, that doesn't really matter either since top speed of both cars are electronically limited to like 125. So the only difference would be the amount of time to reach that speed. Which isn't something I think your parents would be doing (unless their names were modesto).
And speaking of longer trips, TSX also wins in interior treatment as well. I have a cousin with an accord, and when we go into the city with a group of people, they all end up wanting to go in the TSX because of the comfort level.
The TSX is also sexier.
Made in Japan as well, and honestly I feel it's made and put together better than an Accord.
And you also won't see very many other TSXs out on the road as opposed to the Accord where you'll see your twins everywhere. I was once in a pack of 6 8th gen accord 4 sedens and 2 coupes TRUE STORY.
#17
it's a car-drive it
my mom owns a 08 accord V-6. It has the CVT (continuosly variable transmission) Most of the time it is not using the V-6-it is in economy mode. I prefer my tsx with more standard equipment. The tsx has a longer warranty. (3/36K Honda-4/50K-acura)
#18
Three Wheelin'
I think you are confused, as the Accord does not have a CVT tranny and has a regular AT 5 speed tranny. What you are thinking of is VCM (Variable Cylinder Management) which deactivates cylinders when it can for better fuel economy.
#19
Pro
If your parents are like my parents - old, a bit conservative in style, like bigger things - then they should just get the Accord. If my parents were in the market for a midsize sedan I wouldn't direct them to a TSX (my mom doesn't like driving my 07, steering is too heavy she says) - they don't want something sporty, they want something with a bit of plush to it and you can spec out an Accord pretty nicely at a reasonable price. Heck, I'd probably direct them to a Sonata or a Camry - the Sonata is bloody nice on the inside and drives in a way they'd like.
For myself, I'd take the TSX. I need the sport and I prefer the looks.
For myself, I'd take the TSX. I need the sport and I prefer the looks.
#21
If your parents are like my parents - old, a bit conservative in style, like bigger things - then they should just get the Accord. If my parents were in the market for a midsize sedan I wouldn't direct them to a TSX (my mom doesn't like driving my 07, steering is too heavy she says) - they don't want something sporty, they want something with a bit of plush to it and you can spec out an Accord pretty nicely at a reasonable price. Heck, I'd probably direct them to a Sonata or a Camry - the Sonata is bloody nice on the inside and drives in a way they'd like.
For myself, I'd take the TSX. I need the sport and I prefer the looks.
For myself, I'd take the TSX. I need the sport and I prefer the looks.
OP tell them to test drive both, thats the best way. they will see the difference themselves
#22
Pro
FWIW, my parents are in their late 50's and early 60's respectively. They'd get a Lexus and they just aren't Acura's market.
Two extra cents - your parents should get whatever they like after they drive both cars. The two cars are different but they're not SOOOO different that they'd be making a terrible mistake in either case - they're both very good cars with a variety of good reasons for someone to want to own it.
When I shopped around I was down to the 3G TL and my 07 TSX - I chose the TSX b/c it was a bit more fun to drive and the smaller size made it more practical for my girlfriend to drive but MAN, do I miss that awesome V6 in the TL. That V6 is one great motor (not that the K24 is bad at all) and that's worth something.
Two extra cents - your parents should get whatever they like after they drive both cars. The two cars are different but they're not SOOOO different that they'd be making a terrible mistake in either case - they're both very good cars with a variety of good reasons for someone to want to own it.
When I shopped around I was down to the 3G TL and my 07 TSX - I chose the TSX b/c it was a bit more fun to drive and the smaller size made it more practical for my girlfriend to drive but MAN, do I miss that awesome V6 in the TL. That V6 is one great motor (not that the K24 is bad at all) and that's worth something.
#23
not superchaged
#26
Regarding premium fuel being recommended, I have had my 2010 (manual) for two years now and always use regular. I can say with 100% certainty that I get about 3 mpg better mileage using regular and no noticeable difference in power. I very occasionally may hear a little bit of pinging, but nothing too bad.
Believe me, I would use premium if it made a difference in the car. I've owned other cars that required premium and always used it (I would try regular to see if it made a difference, and it generally did). You can have no doubt that if premium was needed in this car, Honda would have no problem changing "recommended" to "required".
Given, I am using a manual, so I can't speak for the automatic, but I've seen many posts on these forums stating that most people get better mileage with regular in the TSX.
Believe me, I would use premium if it made a difference in the car. I've owned other cars that required premium and always used it (I would try regular to see if it made a difference, and it generally did). You can have no doubt that if premium was needed in this car, Honda would have no problem changing "recommended" to "required".
Given, I am using a manual, so I can't speak for the automatic, but I've seen many posts on these forums stating that most people get better mileage with regular in the TSX.
#27
Too much out of the budget, my parents aren't willing to spend $35k haha, 30k is the max. The car will be my car, parents are helping me buy it, but they are just saying that V6 would be more "convenient" for the family if anything happens to relatives down in Cali.
#28
it's a car-drive it
From Personal experience-the tsx has more than enough power for long distance road trips. Have been on 3-NC to California 1st via southern states, 2nd middle states, 3rd northern states. (total of 42 states)
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#29
Three Wheelin'
#30
Drifting
I think your parents would be fine with either vehicle. In many respects these cars are similar: interior room, cargo space, safety equipment, reliability, etc. It's hard for some people to recommend cars to other people because everybody has different requirements. What's important for me will likely not be for your parents, so who cars what I think are important factors. Most parents are past that 'image' thing so either brand would be good.
The parents should really prioritize what they want in their next vehicle themselves. In the Nebraska trip example, both cars will get decent MPG on the highway. I routinely get 30mpg with a loaded V6 and 4 passengers going a 70+ speed- it's the city mileage where the TSX differs a little from the V6 Accord but not significantly. The TSX has standard IPOD integration which might be nice on those long trips.
Obviously cost is a factor and the Accord EXL-V6-Nav might cost as much or less than a base TSX. Your parents might find Navigation a nice thing for those trips. Maintenance costs for a v6 Honda will likely be less than an Acura 4 cyl. Both cars have the same maintenance cycle in many respects but Honda dealers cost less.
You or your parents should check out www.truedelta.com to compare these vehicles- you'll see that the Accord has a lot more rear leg room with might be an important issue if they are traveling with others. The Accord is a longer car and that might be an issue if they park in in a garage and garage is tight. Again lots of factors to consider in making a good decision.
A few years ago I had to choose between an MDX and a Pilot and chose the Pilot for just one feature: 8 passengers .vs. 7 for the MDX. I can not count how many times that has been a good decision for our family in certain situations. I liked the MDX a lot but it would not have worked as well as the Pilot has. We now have a Honda and Acura and they are very similar in maintenance,costs, and even parts like oil filters.
The parents should really prioritize what they want in their next vehicle themselves. In the Nebraska trip example, both cars will get decent MPG on the highway. I routinely get 30mpg with a loaded V6 and 4 passengers going a 70+ speed- it's the city mileage where the TSX differs a little from the V6 Accord but not significantly. The TSX has standard IPOD integration which might be nice on those long trips.
Obviously cost is a factor and the Accord EXL-V6-Nav might cost as much or less than a base TSX. Your parents might find Navigation a nice thing for those trips. Maintenance costs for a v6 Honda will likely be less than an Acura 4 cyl. Both cars have the same maintenance cycle in many respects but Honda dealers cost less.
You or your parents should check out www.truedelta.com to compare these vehicles- you'll see that the Accord has a lot more rear leg room with might be an important issue if they are traveling with others. The Accord is a longer car and that might be an issue if they park in in a garage and garage is tight. Again lots of factors to consider in making a good decision.
A few years ago I had to choose between an MDX and a Pilot and chose the Pilot for just one feature: 8 passengers .vs. 7 for the MDX. I can not count how many times that has been a good decision for our family in certain situations. I liked the MDX a lot but it would not have worked as well as the Pilot has. We now have a Honda and Acura and they are very similar in maintenance,costs, and even parts like oil filters.
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#32
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Idk about the Accord, I haven't been in one since 2005 but the new Sonata and the Fusion the interiors look nice but feel cheap. My buddy has a Fusion and it lacks small features like seat memory, locking glovebox, lockable folding rear seats, external trunk release without using the key, locking fuel door... just small things that add up to a nicer, more upscale ride IMO.
#35
Well one of the cars is made in Japan. Also I'm fairly certain the TSX will have better value retention and it comes with a longer warranty.
edit: I just remembered... The tsx has a relatively bumpy ride. Mom & Dad might not like that. Tell them to look at a used Acura RL. I'm sure you can get one a few years old for about $30k.
edit: I just remembered... The tsx has a relatively bumpy ride. Mom & Dad might not like that. Tell them to look at a used Acura RL. I'm sure you can get one a few years old for about $30k.
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