BlkJ32

Yesterday i felt my tranny slippin and today it became worse. How much can I get out of it til I need a new 1?

01tl4tl

smell the trans dipstick- if burnt fluid its got days

What type of slipping?- on throttle full and 2nd gear, or every gear doesnt want to change or gas it on freeway and it slips to 5000 rpm etc

whats your year and mileage?- salvage title or good title?

ck your VIN with acura 1-800-382-2238 x5 register as the owner and ask if any open recalls (new one for airbag) and if part of the trans extended warranty
thats 7year+9months or 109kmiles from date sold new- acura 800 can tell you that info

01tl4tl

if it freaks out and goes into `limp mode`- 2500 rpm max-
get off the road and park- key OFF for 15 minutes to let trans cool
restart and it will usually get you home

BlkJ32

Well it takes like 4 sec to engage into reverse...and usually its been studdering when goin into 3rd gear...like after 3sec it kicks into the gear hard

ballersonly

is your car an auto? mine is and the reverse takes like a second or so but 4 seconds sounds pretty scary. you step on the brake until it engages to reverse?

ANC297

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Yeah, its an auto....It can go any second now.
Just like a person with Alzheimers, its not gonna get any better. If I were you, I'd start calling to see if by some chance you are still under warranty, if not start shopping around.

BlkJ32

Well takes like 2-3 sec to go in reverse....i got 184k n it already was serviced a long time ago way b4 i ever bought the car....sum1 sellin 1 for 700 so maybe i'll jump on that

fsttyms1

Take the solenoids out and clean them off, and do a single drain and fill

BlkJ32

R the solenoids easy to take out?

01tl4tl

should be a DIY for it, or search for the thread on selenoid cleaning-- kris? link?
They are external

get 4 qts honda atf at honda dealer- should take 3.2 with a good draining

BlkJ32

i looked around but couldnt find any DIY threads for it

my.daily'tl'

Couldnt find info for the 00-03 trans just the 99 but download the service manual. It has all the info you need.

http://home.comcast.net/~amberlani01/ServiceManual.pdf

BlkJ32

Thanx alot man....4k ago i did a 2x2 wit high mileage castrol atf which sed was compatible with our oem fluid and after draining it twice i used the oem atf from acura to fill it up......could that be the problem?.....funny thing is i just ordered the external filter and the 3rd and 4th transmission fluid pressure switches like last week n should be gettin here by thurs.....maybe if i do the 3x3 wit oem atf and add the next parts the tranny will be saved and run normal?

01tl4tl

whats a 2x2??
trans drains approx 3 to 3.2 qts at one time, then you refill-drive 5 minutes using each gear up and down a few times, then drain next set (if doing multiples)

background info like this helps us diagnose your problem- the story has gone from It just started slipping... to- I used something besides honda fluid and now it slips~

BlkJ32

I filled it twice with 3 qts of castrol then drove about a mile each time then for the final fill i used oem atf about 4k ago n my car now has 184k....got to school this morning and d5 started blinking then check engine light came on.....i guess im really screwed an need to replace or rebuild the tranny

MurdaZ

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castrol makes atf?

so you did a drain--fill, then drain-fill with castrol, then fill with honda atf? i would of never mix it even if it said so...honda atf only, these transmissions are so fragile any little thing like grade in castrol oil would cause it.

imo and my experience with my two failed trannies in the past, they died month later after doing a 3x3, and after learning some more about how sensitive transmissions are on any vehcile i never did it again. 3x3s only cause more problems as it fully cleans the internals rather than the fluid alone.

BlkJ32

Yup thats exactly what i did, I decided to use castrol cuz it was cheaper and it wasnt stayin the tranny so i figured why not. I shouldve never messed wit it even tho the fluid was black like oil. When i get a new tranny im just gonna change the external filter and the pressure switches and call it a day.

rcb2000

will your wrong if you think that there isn't any Catrol ATF in it because there still is castrol ATF in. When you drain it it doesn't dran the converter and that's why people flush it several times to flush the converter and all the rest of the valve body, so you did more damage than good by being cheap.

BlkJ32

Yea i know,big mistake. I regret it big time. Might be picking 1 up 2morro tho. For $700

MurdaZ

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good price, labor included? with that one i would just drain and fill in the future....i been threw two trannys on two diff tls, a 99 and a 02, and did 3x3 and they both died within 2 months......my opinion but i know others swear by a 3x3....i know many 6th gen accords with the same issue, and most do drain fill only and still have original tranny.

BlkJ32

yea im not really gonna mess with the drain and fill again and if i do maybe i'll just do it once and not 3x3

BlkJ32

Oh and its gonna b 700 just for the tranny no install included

dudeinaTL

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https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=749026


and
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tl-problems-fixes-117/cleaned-shift-solenoid-filter-screen-fixed-problem-644943/

BlkJ32

The code that came up after d5 started flashing was P1750 Mechanical fault in hydro system....im sure this has been sed like 1000 times by many other people

BlkJ32

Thanx alot dudeinaTl

BlkJ32

Is that from a 99 ?....cuz i have a 02 n i dont see anythin like that

Izzy-Type-S

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You've got like 3 days. My old 2nd gen started doing that like on a Thursday...by Saturday morning I was barely able to pull into my local Acura dealer. Good luck!

BlkJ32

Damn....thanx for the heads up....still drivin it and hasnt died on me yet...lookin around for a used tranny cuz i really dont wanna pay alot of $ to rebuild

BlkJ32

Tried lookin for the solenoid n ended up takin this out instead

BlkJ32

pain in the ass 2 come out too...there were 2 of them.....what are they?

Tomb Acura

I have never seen this posted before. Back in the last century, in the mid 90's, I drove a string fleet cars. Fords, Chevy's Pontiacs. The fleet rental firm ran thousands of cars for corporations. I remember being told by the fleet service manager when I requested that my GM car was due for a 30,000 mile transmission flush being told that it is forbidden. Their data over thousands of miles of fleet cars had proven that there were fewer transmission failures if you never changed the fluid. Even worse, once you changed fluid on a transmission with more than 20,000 miles, the odds of a failure increased greatly. My daddy used to say if it isn't broke, don't fix it.

pimpin-tl

Honda Z1 is not that great of fluid. Reason why many Honda transmissions have died is due to heat and the fluid not taking it well. Ever wonder why the cars with Z1 have issues and lots of stuff on the magnet, but then cars with Amsoil in them for many miles have no issues and nothing on the magnets?

Many tests here, and on the Ody forums plus other Honda forums, have shown that other products out there are better than the Honda Z1 fluid. Many think Honda wants people to use the fluid so they can gain money with your tranny failures. But who knows. I just know my car with a Amsoil 1x1 drain and fill from the Z1 stuff shifts easy now vs hard with the Honda stuff it did before. Can't wait to do the next two.

RC99TL

When I stated a while back I change out the 3qts trans fluid with every oil change everyone got on me as a waste of money.
After this thread i feel better.
I am an Amsoil guy, in both bikes and my CRX Si (motor and trans) but i would be nervous switching out the Honda ATF at this point.

BlkJ32

I am taking my car in 2morro for the tranny to get rebuilt.....since its gonna b free of any fluid wat fluid should i start off fresh with?

'02_TL-S

Just Honda ATF..and a rebuild might get you by long enough for you to dump the car since the problem is with the case design. The only fix is a 6MT but a better fix than a rebuild would be to get a redesigned case from 05+...check the tranny failure thread for more info...

BlkJ32

I would love to convert it to manual but its alot of work and $...and i wouldnt even know how to do it myself....

01tl4tl

start it on honda fluid- let it break in on that
Later you may switch but those other oils are extra slippery and not good for initial use
Like a new engine, some wear has to occur for it to work at its best

01tl4tl

when my D5 flashed getting on the freeway hard- it didnt do it again and kept running fine until dealer could see it- lets say 2 weeks,
even then they drove it 3 days without incident and finally got an engine overspeed code but engine was not in Limp Mode
which indicated trans was slipping and fooling computer in to not issuing a trans code
They could have smelled the fluid but that would have been too easy

BlkJ32

Thats interesting.....sounds crazy tho....I left my car at the shop 2day for them to rebuild the tranny....they sed it should be done by tues

fsttyms1

Thats not entirely true. The problem in our trans has nothing to do with the fluid itself, but the fluid getting to where it needs to. Also the Z1 fluid isnt that bad of fluid. Its better in the honda trans than many others out there because it has anti foaming properties that many dont, and is why many of the other fluids arent recommended for our trans.