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marcelft 09-11-2015 12:12 AM

Rattle/Clunking front pass side, losing my mind, HELP!
 
Im going crazy here. 99 TL
Sound comes at low speeds (10-20), going over bumps, pot holes really make it bang/rattle/clunk. Sounds like its coming from passenger side and happens when I drive pass side over bumps. I can feel it in steering wheel. Once car is above 20-25 I dont hear/feel anything.
Replaced front struts about 3 months ago.
Had a clunking noise and car started pulling to right. Decided probably a ball joint, and car was due for suspension over haul anyway (180,000) Replaced
upper/lower control arms
upper/lower ball joints
inner/outer tie rods
sway bar end links
Even replaced pass side axle as boot was ripped and it was loose at end where it goes into center shaft. Drivers side replaced last year. Had transmission rebuilt last year.

Sound still there!!
Not sure what else to check.
If I hold onto inner fender and rock car up and down I hear a slight clinking. Problem is kinda hard to be under car and rock it up and down.
Ideas?

Dabu 09-11-2015 07:55 AM

I had a similar rattle and also ended up changing out pretty much every front suspension part (struts, links, balljoints, tie rods, bushings etc)..

The rattling sound actually turned out to be the hood latch.. it was loose and so every time I hit a bump or crack in the road the hood was rattling against the latch somehow..

Took 15 minutes to unbolt the latch, move it down a 1/2 inch and bolt it back up, no more noise! I also adjusted the two rubber mounts/stoppers that connect with the hood when it's closed.

Alternatively it could be something to do with the heat shields above the exhaust pipes/catalytic converter, if those are loose they rattle.

00TL-P3.2 09-11-2015 08:23 AM

^ Thanks, I'll check my hood as a cheap quick check. I have a rumbling at low speeds as well. Been thinking it was upper strut mounts.

ErickUa5 09-11-2015 09:46 AM

Radius Rod bushings, buy the oem ones along with a new lock nut or reuse with thread lock.

ErickUa5 09-11-2015 10:05 AM

With the symptoms you described check those out.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...6a5b2364f5.png

00TL-P3.2 09-11-2015 11:36 AM

^ Thanks, I'll check that too.

marcelft 09-11-2015 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by Dabu (Post 15550162)
I had a similar rattle and also ended up changing out pretty much every front suspension part (struts, links, balljoints, tie rods, bushings etc)..

The rattling sound actually turned out to be the hood latch.. it was loose and so every time I hit a bump or crack in the road the hood was rattling against the latch somehow..

Took 15 minutes to unbolt the latch, move it down a 1/2 inch and bolt it back up, no more noise! I also adjusted the two rubber mounts/stoppers that connect with the hood when it's closed.

Alternatively it could be something to do with the heat shields above the exhaust pipes/catalytic converter, if those are loose they rattle.

Awesome, I will check those for sure!

marcelft 09-11-2015 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by ErickUa5 (Post 15550288)
With the symptoms you described check those out.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...6a5b2364f5.png

Nice! Thanks for tanking the time to post that diagram man. How can I tell if they are bad? Or should I just replace?

01acls 09-12-2015 01:26 AM

Another possibility is a worn upper strut bearing.

It's easy to check, just look at the shock towers. The strut shaft should be center in the shock tower and symmetrical from side to side. If not then the bearing is detective.

Strangely, the rattle will sound like it's coming from the dash area.

marcelft 09-12-2015 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by 01acls (Post 15551228)
Another possibility is a worn upper strut bearing.

It's easy to check, just look at the shock towers. The strut shaft should be center in the shock tower and symmetrical from side to side. If not then the bearing is detective.

Strangely, the rattle will sound like it's coming from the dash area.

Thank you for response. Do you mean bushing and not bearing? There is no upper strut bearing on 99.

01acls 09-12-2015 08:57 AM

^ correct


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...eae7048c59.png

marcelft 09-12-2015 05:31 PM

Cool...I ordered the radius bushings from Delray Acura (I live right down teh street) and will change those. If not I will change the all the bushings in the struts. By the time I am done I may have changed every single bushing on the front end. :what:

01acls 09-14-2015 03:02 AM

There's no reason to change the strut bushings if the strut is centered in the shock towers and symmetrical.

Kmizzal00TL 09-18-2015 10:35 AM

I had the same noises/symptoms a while back. I changed the two stabilizer bar bushings (it's like $3 for each), problem solved.

ExcelerateRep 09-18-2015 11:24 AM

^ OP mentioned he replaced the endlink bushings, but it's possible it could be a bushing on the stabilizer itself.

Buzzman996 09-23-2015 11:29 AM

I’m in the same boat. Does it clunk and rattle like crazy when you going down alleys at slow speeds(like there is no gas in the shock) ?, seems to be fine on smooth roads, but with some looseness suspension with a lot of roll. There is no visual smoking gun for me and I have come to the conclusion that my original suspension is just really tired at 200k and all bushings are dried up lost their purpose. I plan to replace struts,top hats, ball joints, and all bushings, including sway bar bushings. I have already replaced my front sway bar links a couple years ago. I am convinced that if I had to run from the cops, I would have the motor, but stand no chance with my suspension and would die in an amazing rollover. This is an overhaul I probably should have done about 50k ago.

thelastaspec 09-24-2015 03:39 PM

Eric the car guy did a video on the TL where a suspension clunk ended up being worn motor mounts!

Tosh 09-26-2015 01:33 PM

My front brake pads rattle when going over small bumps ('01 CL-S)

00TL-P3.2 10-20-2015 08:20 AM

Checked my hood latch over the weekend, it did need to be tightened a bit, but was not the source of the rumble. Will be checking radius rod bushings next.

Buzzman996 10-20-2015 04:53 PM

I want to go out on a limb here. What about the bushings that actually hold the sway bar to the frame. I know that may not seem like it, but if all of your connections are tight and bushed. The weakest link is going to have a rattle sound, as the rubber is just totally played. I may actually get louder as you've tightened everything else up, by replacing it with new. I'm just thinking about all the moving or hinged parts that eventually connect to a solid (non moving) part of the frame. I work with mechanical & electrical engineers all day and we are continually looking for the failure sources.

00TL-P3.2 10-20-2015 05:06 PM

^ Saturns were notoriously bad for rattling rear sway bar bushings. Worth checking there too.

00TL-P3.2 10-21-2015 08:08 AM

^ Edit: Yes, I know a Saturn has nothing to do with a TL. Just popped in my head that it was a common problem on the S-series cars in the 90s. Both of ours did it & the SC my dad raced had the same issue.

00TL-P3.2 10-27-2015 04:06 PM

Is there a visual check on radius rod bushings to tell if they need replacing? 15yrs. 240k miles & 3rd owner; I have no way to know if they've ever been done before.
I'll likely be under it this weekend for an oil changes & 3x1 trans fluid change.

thelastaspec 10-27-2015 05:17 PM


SuperGreg 01-09-2016 02:50 PM

When was the last time you replaced motor mounts? I just replaced all of mine for the first time around 200K and every single one was shot. The passenger side mount had completely separated.

Also, did this noise start before or after you replaced the struts?

musiclevelz5 01-11-2016 10:18 AM

All three of my TLs had the same clunk. It was the stabilizer bushings in the middle. There are two total. I replaced my end links at first and it was still making noise. Then replaced the bushings. Noise gone. Many people do not realise these go bad just as often as the end links.

Super cheap at rock auto/amazon and takes 5 minutes to replace.

dashaint 03-01-2018 10:40 PM

I'm having this issue, tried everything... will try this next. thanks for the tip

Reinaldo Ortega 05-19-2018 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by musiclevelz5 (Post 15653117)
All three of my TLs had the same clunk. It was the stabilizer bushings in the middle. There are two total. I replaced my end links at first and it was still making noise. Then replaced the bushings. Noise gone. Many people do not realise these go bad just as often as the end links.

Super cheap at rock auto/amazon and takes 5 minutes to replace.

how u replace in 5 minutes

Iggy 05-20-2018 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by Reinaldo Ortega (Post 16236108)
how u replace in 5 minutes

Get under the car. With 14mm socket, remove both bushing retainers(total 4 bolts) which allows the sway bar to drop down. Remove the old bushings and replace with new. Button it up and you're done.

tripleguy 05-20-2018 04:31 PM

CV axles?
 
Have you checked the boots on the CV axle to see if they're cut or torn? I had a clunk in the font end and it turned out to be a bad axle.

Reinaldo Ortega 07-10-2018 06:17 PM

04 acura tl
 
So I lower my 04 tl and now I get vibration when I get 20 miles per hour after that it goes away already got alignment on it...any suggestions? Will be very appreciative


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