duran492

so im a victim of a power steering leak .. i have no clue where to start ..

Im gonna power-wash and de-grease my engine first then i'm not sure what to do next and where to even look?

(please help)

Karanx7

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First off, don't underline your posts.

Find the source of the leak. If it's from the PS pump, it shouldn't be too hard to fix. If it's leaking from the rack, you're going to have a more expensive problem.

When does it leak? Overnight? All the time? Does it make a whining noise?

Check the PS pump first. It's to the passenger side of the engine. Make sure all the hoses going to and from the PS pump and the PS reservoir are tight and not leaking.

duran492

well it leaks when its parked (night and day) .. and yes it makes the whining noise .. mainly louder in the am startup .. it still steers good but with the whining noise .. i know where to add the fluid, just not sure where the leak commonly comes from.

Skirmich

If it Whines even with enough PS Fluid I bet 2 cents its the main Seal or Bearing on the Pump.

If it Whines becouse the PS Fluid leaks over night then you have a Leak in the Lines itself... The PS PUMP can only leak when is Spinning...

duran492

thats awesome info!! .. because when i thought i was low, it still had some in there .. so would acura or autozone have these parts? are they cheap?

Skirmich

You can buy almost all parts in Autozone but bear in mind they are NO where in Hell Cheap...

I have a Leak at the Pressure line about 3 months ago (The Pressure Line is the one that comes out on TOP of the PS Pump) never the less I paid 150 bucks for an Autozone Replacement (Japanese at Least) but Stealership wanted 200 for the same Line..... At least I saved some $$$ on the Installation...
Stealership also sells PS Rebuild kits they are around -100$ but comes with all parts necessary for rebuild (This thinking you will DIY).

If you can find a shop who will REBUILD your current PS Pump it will be around 100-150 for the Job... Buying a new PS Pump? thats around 250+ bucks but at least you can Install it yourself.

duran492

ok cool .. i just found instructions on how to change the "o-ring" .. im gonna give that a shot 1st ..

FwC

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Dealership will sell you all the O-rings needed to rebuild the pump. It cost me like $13 from Acura of Peoria with internet pricing. There are 7 O-rings that I replaced. Be careful not to misplace the veins when putting it back together. Once the PS pulley is off, pump removal and disassembly is very simple.

fsttyms1

First thing you need to do is FIND the leak. Clean everything down good then park the car over night. When you go out to the car in the am DONT move the car. Look under it. See if there is a puddle or spots under the car and correspond the area they are under the car to the location under the hood. Start there looking for the leak and come back and tell us so we can further help you

duran492

i have no clue on where to get started on changing the O-ring .. or what line it comes from .. my PS has been leaking but there still is fluid after weeks of PS whining .. in the mornings it's very LOUD! .. after it's warmed up, it kinda goes away .. it goes from a 9 to a 3 ..

FwC

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Download the 1999-2003 TL/TL-S Factory Service Manual or find a Helms Manual.

Start on Page 1008 in Adobe, it's also page 17-22.

There are 5 O-rings pictured there. Get those, and I'd recommend a new bearing just to be on the safe side. Get the Pump Seal Spacer. Get the last O-ring which is the one that goes to HIGH PRESSURE HOSE leaving the pump.

Follow the manual. My flow control valve was faulty and it says to replace it, but I didn't since it's not an individual part. My pump works great now and no more fluid EVERYWHERE.

Again be very careful with that pump rotor and the vanes, try to keep that assembly in the cam ring so everything doesn't fall out.

duran492

any idea how long this process should take me?

RC99TL

Where is the leak? Is it on the drivers side sort of under your feet?
If so the pinion seal may be bad and it will leak when the car is not running more than when it is.
To test, lift the front of the car and place it on jack stands. With engine off, grab a front wheel and move it left to right through the full range of the steering.
If the pinion seal is bad you will see dripping almost immediately.
Your rack will need to be replaced. when the engine is running there is actually a vacuum at that seal and will suck in air hence the whine and frothed fluid in the reservoir. Lucas power steering fluid will work as a stop gap but if it gets below 40º or so it will feel like a 69 Chevy Nova with manual steering!
I had the same problem replaced the rack and the P/S pump and now it is like new.

duran492

It's actually on the passenger side, towards the front bumper ..

FwC

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Do you have gunky build up around the PS pump and below it? If not then it's just the reservoir.
Mine leaked all the way down on top of the side engine mount into the shields that cover the timing belt and all over the sub frame. It was so bad that the stuff made its way down to my oil pan.
Rebuild it, if you have the right tools and are pretty smart when doing stuff like this, then it's probably a 2 hour job.

duran492

ok cool .. I'm gonna change out the O-ring right now .. thats simple .. ill refill the reservoir and see if there is still a leak by the am .. thanks .. ill post another message if it still is leaking .. thanks!

rockstar143

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Not sure if this'll help for a 2G, but here was my experience with the 3. I'd be surprised if the systems weren't similar.

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-problems-fixes-114/diy-105-power-steering-pump-overhaul-pics-sm-scans-841134/

duran492

I just replaced the o-ring .. it was fine and it wasn't broken .. i let the car run for a few minutes and took it for a drive and still had the "whining" .. could you PLEASE shoot me in the direction i need to get all the gaskets? possibly links to a kit? that'd be sweet man!

rockstar143

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that thread I posted has a link to the service manual and step by step on changing ALL the o-rings on the PS pump. If your leak is from the pump, this'll fix it!

duran492

ok I see the "add to cart" stuff ... I clicked and it took me to a blank page .. I see the step by step stuff .. Perfect!!! maybe I'll call Acura and see if they can provide me with every gasket needed for the pump .. I'll show them the parts #s you listed. Thanks!!!!

duran492

. . . . So, i checked again and i noticed the hose that runs just ABOVE the pulley has 2 little thin slits on the side of it .. it doesn't have a HUGE spill but it leaks .. NOW, if I replace that, will that silence the "whining"?

FwC

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If it is the only source of leakage then replacing it will stop the whining (most likely).

rockstar143

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more than likely, yes...I'm sure when running it's creating a whistle effect and introducing air.

duran492

alright .. i've been reading that i need a lift to replace this hose .. hopefully it's not too bad .. now i gotta find a dang hose ..

fsttyms1

If you cant find it locally, Click the link enter the info and find the part.


http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/...catdisplay.jsp

Oh and there is no guarantee that the whining/noise will be fixed. You may have already caused damage to the pumps seals. Fix the leak before doing anything.

duran492

$102.32 .. not too bad .. i read that i'll need a lift for this repair .. ??

fsttyms1

There isn't any thing on the car that can't be removed with a set of jack stands and a floor jack. If you have those you can replace the line.

duran492

got it!

RC99TL

Makes sense. When air gets in the system it froths up the fluid, makes the pump whine and pukes out the reservoir.

fulla

Mine is leaking from the rubber boot end on the driver side. Do they sell replacement parts (orings, seals etc) for this? If not how much am I looking at to get a shop to replace it? I have an 04 tl with 70,000 miles on it, sure seems early for this to happen. Thanks for any help.