Skirmich

Had to Share:


http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...auto-show.html




But this is what Amazed me:


""Each engine is matched exclusively to its own transmission, with the four-banger hooked up to an eight-speed dual clutch with a torque converter while the V6 is mated to a nine-speed automatic.""




NEAT!!! Dual Clutch! With a Torque Converter? Dunno how that works out though..

WTF???? How the Hell does Honda make a jump from the Current 6 Speed Auto to a Freaking 9 Speed Automatic??? Does Honda started to Outsource transmissions??????

cincinattlguy19

IF they have outsourced, I think it may be safe to say that the automatic trannys can only get better from here on out

I can't imagine driving a 9 speed automatic. Without ever driving anything over 6 speed, 9 just sounds like sooo many gears.

justnspace

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the DCT is made inhouse and the 9speed is the same ZF series found in other cars

Skirmich

Jesus Christ!! a "ZF" German made Transmission? hey if we thought Rebuilding our trans was Expensive!!!! Honda always found a new way to fuck us up... Why my easy and inexpensive loyal Brand like Honda had to use a German Made transmission? Just Because? 7 Speed Auto would have been nice from Honda Itself.


And I hope this isn't the Transmission Used: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...-on-the-leash/

Nicks2001tl

The new Jeep has a nine speed transmission, sounds like a trend.

Skirmich

^ Looks like its the same Transmission.

ErickUa5

Well, looks like it will have an oil pan although this is a generic image I doubt the one for the TLX wouldnt have one.

Skirmich

^ Its a side Oil Pan, I would not get my hopes up with space issues

Chevelle66

I've seen a lot of hate on this car, but I personally love it. Just need to get rid of that wheel gap, some window tint and rims and should look pretty great. Than again I'm someone who seems to go against the grain and thinks the 2g looks amazing and the 3g looks cheesy and ricey, but that's just my taste.
If I get this job I'm trying to get and the pay is on the high end of the estimated pay range I'm thinking about getting a 2016 model. Let them find all the flaws on the first year run lol, if nothing considerable changes like how 99 to '00 tranny change actually had tje problems lol.
Wish there was a nice new amazing Manual tranny option though, and maybe an option with more HP, I was really looking forward to 350 stock lol

Nicks2001tl

I can`t really judge the TLX other than the looks (which is not that bad). Also can`t wait to hear the user reviews on the transmission.

Yikes

This kind of stuff fascinates me. I'm studying mechanical engineering and hope to snag a job with Honda helping to design transmissions once I graduate.

3.2TLc

Just as a reminder, there's a new forum specifically concerning the "Fifth Gen" TLX 2015+

Check it out if ya have not already done so !!!

Skirmich

^^ Fifth Gen of what? the TLX should be a whole new 1st Gen Car...

WheelMcCoy

You've got a point there. It could be 5th Gen TL, or 3rd Gen TSX, or more Ac(c)ura(-tely), first gen TLX.

Nicks2001tl

The TLX has the long swooping hood like all the TL`s. The TLX is a different model?

Skirmich

^^ TLX is a combination of TSX and TL = Both cars will be discontinued so there is no point on calling the TLX a "Fifth Gen" TL.. TL is 4th Gen and Bye bye..


Welcome "First Gen TLX (2015-XXXX)"

Karanx7

iTrader: (2)

Not according to AZine. There's a new section under the TL subforum.

Skirmich

Already saw it... Sigh.... Seems AZine cant let go of things, Need to keep the TL alive or something...

ErickUa5

Funny thing is our generation TL was named TL-X when it was a concept.
Guess they decided stick with it now.

ErickUa5

They didn't think this one out right.
It doesn't appear on the TSX menu so cant call it a 3rd gen TLX on there lol.

3.2TLc

Yeah, the new upcoming "TL-X" is apparently following more in the steps of the past TL with it's features and sizing......rather than the demised TSX model which regrettfully got sent out to pasture in the deal.


However, IMO ....the TLX, being the newest addition to the Acura family tree should be embraced as a welcome and meaningful transition for the TL model going forward into the future years. It's a win-win and ends the rivalry competition within the brand's line-up. Long live the TL......X !!!

TLZINE99

Looks great!

3.2TLc

Yeah, could'nt agree more after the 4th Gen beaksters !!!

AlanW

Curious that there is no exhaust cut-outs in the rear, in fact, you don't see the tailpipes at all, which is a big change from previous models

justnspace

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obviously, you havent been keeping up with Acura's model line.
starting with the ILX that came out first, no exhaust tips...
then MDX came out, No exhaust tips.
then RDX came out, no Exhaust tips.
then RLX came out and no exhaust tips
then TLX came out... and guess what....


its a design cue that they are following through out their current line up.

AlanW

GUILTY !! I don't see any ILXs around here. There are more RDXs & MDXs than you can count, but I don't pay any attention to them 'cause I'm not interested in them. There are lots of 2nd, 3rd & 4th Gen TLs though.

HairyMonkey019

iTrader: (7)

I like the no exhaust cut outs on the bumper idea. It forces people to step outside of the box for their setups and if they even want to have the slots.

Also 290hp v6 is too weak for my taste as a modern car.

Skirmich

^^ Indeed it should be North of 310HP AT LEAST! Its becoming a slow dog with all that fancy Tech gizmos but no Love for Performance.

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

^lol what you guise dont realize is that the gearing in the ZF series tranny is superb!
they are estimating low 5 second jaunts from 0-60.

keeping the weight down also helps acceleration.

*speculations*
and then add the electric motors to the SHAWD model and you have a low 4 sec 0-60 car.

Skirmich

^ Weight will be more of a Factor and how fast that 9 Speed can react to down shifts.. I cannot care less about 0-60 times..
If it will take ages to overtake = Its slow.


And for the amount of money the TLX will cost 290HP its Little..
I don't believe that Gearing make up for Ponies either, Just look at Mercs and Bimmers the TLX is coming against..

HairyMonkey019

iTrader: (7)

9 gears lol, come on think about it. Acura could have done better, the NSX had a 290hp 3.2L 6speeed manual.. and RWD at that.

The TLX is 3.5L.

Skirmich

^ And if its in fact a ZF Trans when it breaks down (BECAUSE IT WILL) its going to cost an arm and leg to Repair.. After all my ZF loaded X5 4.6 trans was total crap.


Its funny because I don't know a single Bimmer owner who will tell you nice things about a ZF Trans.. Its just not worth the trouble...
Honda should just make the Jump to 7 Speedo AUTO and be with it, Fuck ZF.




BUT The NSX C32 Engine was a beast on its day, and its still today a freaking expensive engine... They Could just stop shitting around and release the J40 that we all know its coming in the future.


Setting my Imagination Free:
"J40A1" V6 SOHC i-VTEC
11.5:1 Compression
325HP
290lb-ft
8000RPM Redline


and if it was a Direct Injection Engine?? It would be even more awesome...

number_twelve

So, besides the SH-AWD, which wheels are driven? Oh, the front wheels? Well then, moving on!
There are so many new designs out in the compact luxury segment that are RWD, why can't Acura join the crowd? It truly makes a better car!
THANKS SOCCER MOMS!

Skirmich

^^ Why would you want RWD on a Luxury Car? The TL already handles great with little under-steer and practically none-existant torque steer in FWD Flavor. If you want to drive a Sports Cars then RWD is warranted but not in a Luxury Car.. You want Luxury! Not to corner like a demon or Drift...


If Bimmer and Merc uses RWD is because its the cheap option against AWD Powered cars.

number_twelve

Everyone has their opinion I suppose. Sure, I want an M5 so I can have luxury and burn the tires to shreds in seconds going completely sideways down the freeway.
I guess I have it stuck in my head that this car should be a high performance luxury cruiser since I'm used to a TL-S, so my expectation is that newer versions should be improved upon in both performance and luxury. I forget that the base TL is less of a bruiser and more of a cruiser, and there are plenty of people that are just fine with that. Some cars just give me a little bit more pleasure driving than the TL has, such as the IS350, 335, and M45. I can attribute this to driving dynamics of RWD, which I prefer. I just wish Acura would give it a shot.

Skirmich

I haven't got any issue doing "Touge" or High speed mountain driving with my TL-S I have a bimmer M3 as reference for that same road and the TL-S while less tail happy it did very well on Performance Summer tires the worse part was understeer under braking but with my late braking driving style I could use a BBK to fight that, If I had Slicks it would be even better! but I would not drive those outside a proper track..


I don't think the TL would benefit at all with RWD.. If anything the TLX should be a little bit more skinny (Lighter), Lower, 4 Pot BBK, Stiffer sway Bars (I know Acura will drop the ball on them yet again) and the FWD TLX would ask nothing to RWD TLX besides Faster Acceleration of course but we are talking about handling not 0 to 60s..


If I ever get Summer Tires again I shall make a Video to show you how much fun I Have in the TL-S in Real roads not a Track..