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Old 07-18-2004, 11:52 PM
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headers+intake+exhaust=how many hp?

ok guys i know this has been said prob a thousand times but i couldnt find the answer in the search. maybe i looked wrong, sorry for the noob q.

neways whats my gain with those 3 mods. comptech headers and exhaust and aem v2 intake?

did obx ever fix the problems they were having with the headers?

thanks alot and sorry for the repetition of this question.
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this is a guest? 260hp?
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i mean guess...
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Intake is worth 5 hp or so, headers is worth 15 - 18 hp or so, exhaust (depending on how radical you go) is worth 5-8 hp, so your over all gains on a 225 hp 00 TL would end up between 25-30 hp giving you a total of 250 -255 hp at the fly wheel, which equates to about 205-210 at the rear wheels. Go for it.
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V2 will give close to 10, AEM claims 15.
headers do 15 and up to 25 (-p gains 30hp @6000rpm, dynoproves all over internet)
exhaust will not give you 3hp...our car's exhaust flow is very good.

you are looking at +25-30hp with those.
69ssr: we all wish we had a flyweel (manual trans?) you mean at the crank. and it would be 205-210 to the FRONT wheels...
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When I got my headers and puleys installed it was an amazing difference. I was worried about numbers.....until I got in the car....the car flies now!
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Originally Posted by 69ssrscam
Intake is worth 5 hp or so, headers is worth 15 - 18 hp or so, exhaust (depending on how radical you go) is worth 5-8 hp, so your over all gains on a 225 hp 00 TL would end up between 25-30 hp giving you a total of 250 -255 hp at the fly wheel, which equates to about 205-210 at the rear wheels. Go for it.

Not quite. The gains that are stated for those mods are the increases they add to a stock motor. So just because you add an intake (5hp) and headers (25hp) and exhaust (2 hp) doesn't mean you are going to come out with a 32 horsepower gain. Also remember, the gains listed by modifications are usually expressed in wheel horsepower not crank horsepower. It's pretty hard to see how much a difference axel back exhaust makes on an engine dyno.

I have a CL-S with Comptech I/H/E. The Type-S is rated at 260 crank horsepower. Given a 25% power loss due to the automatic transmission, this equates to 190-195 wheel horsepower (most dyno in that range) in stock trim. After my mods I dyno'd at 222whp, or a gain of 27whp from those mods. Alot of people have been getting dyno tests done lately because the UniChip mod finally came out. No one with the exact same mods as me has dyno'd as high as I have so a 27whp gain might not even be what you are looking at... might be less.
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Not quite. The gains that are stated for those mods are the increases they add to a stock motor. So just because you add an intake (5hp) and headers (25hp) and exhaust (2 hp) doesn't mean you are going to come out with a 32 horsepower gain. Also remember, the gains listed by modifications are usually expressed in wheel horsepower not crank horsepower. It's pretty hard to see how much a difference axel back exhaust makes on an engine dyno.

I have a CL-S with Comptech I/H/E. The Type-S is rated at 260 crank horsepower. Given a 25% power loss due to the automatic transmission, this equates to 190-195 wheel horsepower (most dyno in that range) in stock trim. After my mods I dyno'd at 222whp, or a gain of 27whp from those mods. Alot of people have been getting dyno tests done lately because the UniChip mod finally came out. No one with the exact same mods as me has dyno'd as high as I have so a 27whp gain might not even be what you are looking at... might be less.

what exactly is the UNICHIP mod do ??
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It is a piggyback ECU that adjusts A/F ratios to gain power:



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how much is the unichip and how easy to install? does it have any neg effects?!
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1st off, what type of TL do you have?
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2000 tl-p
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Not available for you car so I won't bother going into details. If you'd like to read up about it there are thousands of posts about it on A-CL.
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It would be available if someone in the Portland, OR area would volunteer there TL-P to Unichip for mapping.
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Originally Posted by 69ssrscam
Intake is worth 5 hp or so, headers is worth 15 - 18 hp or so, exhaust (depending on how radical you go) is worth 5-8 hp, so your over all gains on a 225 hp 00 TL would end up between 25-30 hp giving you a total of 250 -255 hp at the fly wheel, which equates to about 205-210 at the rear wheels. Go for it.
LOLLLL I hate it when people pretend like they know what there talking bout to sound all like they know shit. Dude u own a TL and your talking about a flywheel? Do you even know what a flywheel is? It's definitly not in our TL's. Then on top of that 205-210 hp at the REAR wheels??? lollll Rear wheels??? lol dont they just roll? daym what kinda power have i been missing out on? I thought our daym cars were FRONT WHEEL DRIVE!
Daym dude if you dont know your shit just ask no need to look like a dumass and pretend like u kno wat ur talking about. For people that don't know about this stuff you just made them stupid for reading this :fingerfawk:

P.S. 5-8 HP from an exhaust for our cars? I wish! go find me that exhaust and I'll give you 2g's for it!
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Black Acc is right. Exhaust on our cars don't do much at all for 600+ dollars. It's virtually only for sound and looks.

Judging by your user name, though, I would imagine that you have a muscle car, or at least into muscle cars. You probably thought of this in those terms, hence the reason you said RWD and flywheel. But on import FWD forums, you must say crank and fwhp.
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Black Acc is right. Exhaust on our cars don't do much at all for 600+ dollars. It's virtually only for sound and looks.

Judging by your user name, though, I would imagine that you have a muscle car, or at least into muscle cars. You probably thought of this in those terms, hence the reason you said RWD and flywheel. But on import FWD forums, you must say crank and fwhp.
Not necessarily. Many FWD cars have flywheels, especially performance ones, just not any 2nd Gen TL's.
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hey i am in portland
how do i hit up uni chip??
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wrong thread...gotto the TL-P unichip thread and talk to ELEMENTZ...if you give your car for a couple of yours you get a free chip and chips for your fellow TLers.
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P.S. 5-8 HP from an exhaust for our cars? I wish! go find me that exhaust and I'll give you 2g's for it!
Comptech Catback or the GReddy EVO2 Catback.

You can send your $2,000 to mrsteve_o@hotmail.com I'll be sure to ship it out to you ASAP.
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I would like a UNiCHIP

I have an 02 tl type s..
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How much is it, not really 2k is it
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Are you sure you'd like a UniChip? Do you know what it is? Read up on A-CL. It currently isn't available to general purchase. It was through a groupbuy only.
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hey broly im telling you this as just a favor.. dont blow up on people.. it could come back on you..
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what pulleys

Originally Posted by DeathtoToasters
When I got my headers and puleys installed it was an amazing difference. I was worried about numbers.....until I got in the car....the car flies now!
what pulleys did you change and what brands
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Originally Posted by minnesota beans
what pulleys did you change and what brands
Welcome to AZine, minnesota beans.
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Originally Posted by minnesota beans
what pulleys did you change and what brands
Most likely the UR pulley. The only pulley to get is the Crank, the others are just for looks.




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