FAQ: 06-07 AV6 Transmission 'Swap'
#282
AV6 transmission fix question
Just bought a used 03 and it has the issue. To those that have tried this DIY. If you are doing this in you home garage - can you drop the trans out the bottom or do you need to remove the hood / hoist to get the trans out of the car?
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
#283
update 2
sooo I've had a week with the AV6, so far so good. I changed the warmer but kept the filter, swapped a few sensors and the top 2 in one solenoids and the one in front of the transmission from the tl tranny to the AV6. Apparently it needed roughly 6 bottles of honda DW1 ATF. i got a check engine light a few days ago but haven't been able to pull it, i also had my airbag replaced so hopefully its nothing too bad. everything works fine and shifts better than what i can remember. Any suggestions on what else to do to preserve the AV6 ???
On a side note, THANKSSS for everyone keeping this alive and giving so much feed back so i could get this done.
On a side note, THANKSSS for everyone keeping this alive and giving so much feed back so i could get this done.
#284
You can pull it out of the drivers wheel well. I think that's what most people do. There's a video on youtube of a guy doing it (2 videos) - I think he has a blue TL-S.
#285
Here's a pic of my garage when I did it:
Here's a tip, I bought a mover's dolly from Harbor Freight for about $8 and made this tranny jack adapter. It helps stabilized the tranny on the jack for removal and installation. Plus, with the tranny off the car, I used it to roll the heavy tranny around to swap parts etc:
Removal:
Out:
Swapping parts:
Final installation of the AV6 tranny:
#286
Removing trans
Ok, fully extending the jacks. Just wondering, did you jack up back end as well. Mover's dolly. That is a good tip.
One last question, what did you do with the old tranny? Take it to a rebuilder as a gift or the dump?
One last question, what did you do with the old tranny? Take it to a rebuilder as a gift or the dump?
#287
No, I didn't jack up the back. I returned the old tranny back to the parts place (LKQ) and got my core charge refunded.
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VDo (11-15-2015)
#290
I've had this swap since my transmission took a dump on me ~15000 miles ago. Very happy with the results but has anyone every taken this av6, j32a2 combo to a dyno? Ive done a few small bolt on upgrades (intake, and headers) and I'm curious if I will see more of a gain with this transmission? I know that the stock transmission eats up a ton of power between the crank and the wheels and I just wanted to know if that's the case with the av6 as well? If it matters I have an 06 "baya" transmission. Thanks!
#292
Sorry to restate the obvious, but as stated in the first post, so long as its the 06-07 v6 3.0 Accord I am good to go part wise?
Sorry that I could not have searched more (time crunch today). Any other gaskets or parts I should get ordered for this swap?
Due to the time needed, I am going to go for the AV6 over a 6 - speed as I only have 2 weeks to do this...
Sorry that I could not have searched more (time crunch today). Any other gaskets or parts I should get ordered for this swap?
Due to the time needed, I am going to go for the AV6 over a 6 - speed as I only have 2 weeks to do this...
#293
Racer
Yes. You need a trans from an '06 or '07 Accord V6 coupe or sedan.
Change your rear main seal while the trans is out and I also recommend changing the axle seals as well as the trans input shaft seal and torque converter o-ring. You will also need a new gasket for the filter adapter housing where it bolts to the transmission.
Good luck!
Change your rear main seal while the trans is out and I also recommend changing the axle seals as well as the trans input shaft seal and torque converter o-ring. You will also need a new gasket for the filter adapter housing where it bolts to the transmission.
Good luck!
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thelastaspec (12-19-2015)
#294
Yes. You need a trans from an '06 or '07 Accord V6 coupe or sedan.
Change your rear main seal while the trans is out and I also recommend changing the axle seals as well as the trans input shaft seal and torque converter o-ring. You will also need a new gasket for the filter adapter housing where it bolts to the transmission.
Good luck!
Change your rear main seal while the trans is out and I also recommend changing the axle seals as well as the trans input shaft seal and torque converter o-ring. You will also need a new gasket for the filter adapter housing where it bolts to the transmission.
Good luck!
I will get those parts...
Do the CV axels also just go directly in without modification?
Are most of you just using the AV6 torque converter and not getting a new one?
Last edited by thelastaspec; 12-19-2015 at 12:15 AM.
#296
Racer
You use the AV6 torque converter. If the miles on the trans are on the high side, it may be a good idea to get a new one.
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thelastaspec (12-20-2015)
#297
Will be ordering the new AV6 Monday for 1000$ CAD shipped (our currency sucks right now).
Cheers + Happy Xmas!
#298
AV6 is in and operating. I kept the av6 filter setup but switched the cooler on top of it SHIFTS SMOOTH AS SILK.
I replaced front and back motor mounts along with trans. mounts.
Only issue is while in gear there is a significant vibration but goes away when driving. Could it be cheap motor mounts that I installed?
I replaced front and back motor mounts along with trans. mounts.
Only issue is while in gear there is a significant vibration but goes away when driving. Could it be cheap motor mounts that I installed?
#299
My Odyssey service manual lists the BGRA transmission for both the 2005 and 2006. Serial # for 2005 is 7000001- and 2006 is 8000001-.
#300
Hello, I have located an 2006 / 2007 AV6 - i think?! The yard dogs are telling me so - how can I find out how to decode the transmission serial number to ensure? Would a Honda dealer be able to tell me how to do this?
#302
A trick I learned when putting it together:
Only put the flex plate to torque converter bolts in fingertip tight. You need to be able to move the TC independent of the flex plate via the starter hole to line up all 8 bolts.
Only put the flex plate to torque converter bolts in fingertip tight. You need to be able to move the TC independent of the flex plate via the starter hole to line up all 8 bolts.
#303
WOW. With the AV6 swap this car is completely different. It has the shift quality of a new car!
#305
Yes: get a hoist and have a friend around when you detach it from the car for safety...
#306
Suzuka Master
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The way VDo did it seems "easy" enough to remove it.
people are kind of unreasonable around here. Stock TL with a blown tranny, asking 3500$. I have to be an a**hole and offer like 1000$ for this to be worth it at all
#307
hoist to lift the engine out a little to angle it to reach the bolts on the tranny?
The way VDo did it seems "easy" enough to remove it.
people are kind of unreasonable around here. Stock TL with a blown tranny, asking 3500$. I have to be an a**hole and offer like 1000$ for this to be worth it at all
The way VDo did it seems "easy" enough to remove it.
people are kind of unreasonable around here. Stock TL with a blown tranny, asking 3500$. I have to be an a**hole and offer like 1000$ for this to be worth it at all
#308
hoist to lift the engine out a little to angle it to reach the bolts on the tranny?
The way VDo did it seems "easy" enough to remove it.
people are kind of unreasonable around here. Stock TL with a blown tranny, asking 3500$. I have to be an a**hole and offer like 1000$ for this to be worth it at all
The way VDo did it seems "easy" enough to remove it.
people are kind of unreasonable around here. Stock TL with a blown tranny, asking 3500$. I have to be an a**hole and offer like 1000$ for this to be worth it at all
#309
with even a cheap harbour freight (princess auto in Canada), it makes your life sooooooo easy. i got mine on sale for 150$.
#310
Suzuka Master
iTrader: (4)
sweet that's perfect. I found some transmissions already, low KM and from 500-900$, all in Alberta. Now I am browsing for a good candidate TL. I don't wanna get some beat up peace of crap and put time and money into fixing it. My co-worker has a 2003 type s which is immaculate, but tranny is still good. I am talking him into getting a new car when the tranny goes so I can get his TL haha
#311
Put the engine on a bunch of solid wood, lower it down with the hoist. There are two lifting eyes already installed on the transmission from the factory. Lift the new one back up. It is 1000x easier than using a floor or transmission jack. Also easy for lifting the replacement trans off the back of the pickup...
#312
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I followed this exactly. It's all in the service manual as well. It's the best thing you can have, explains it step by step.
#313
sweet that's perfect. I found some transmissions already, low KM and from 500-900$, all in Alberta. Now I am browsing for a good candidate TL. I don't wanna get some beat up peace of crap and put time and money into fixing it. My co-worker has a 2003 type s which is immaculate, but tranny is still good. I am talking him into getting a new car when the tranny goes so I can get his TL haha
#314
Acura TL transmission removal 99-03 Part 1 of 2 - YouTube
and
Acura TL transmission removal 99-03 Part 2 of 2 - YouTube
I followed this exactly. It's all in the service manual as well. It's the best thing you can have, explains it step by step.
and
Acura TL transmission removal 99-03 Part 2 of 2 - YouTube
I followed this exactly. It's all in the service manual as well. It's the best thing you can have, explains it step by step.
I'll check out the vids when I have some time later.
#315
Racer
Oooh OK I misunderstood, I thought you were talking about hoisting the trans out the top. You're saying to use a lift to lower the engine & transmission out the bottom with the subframe as the service manual says? Or do that first then lift the trans out the top?
I'll check out the vids when I have some time later.
I'll check out the vids when I have some time later.
The guy in the video chose to remove the lower control arms. The service manual says to separate the lower ball joints and leave the control arms attached to the rear subframe.
#316
The service manual shows a procedure similar to what is shown in the videos. The engine stays in the car and is supported with a jack from underneath or attached to an engine brace from above. The front subframe gets removed and the transmission comes out from the bottom.
The guy in the video chose to remove the lower control arms. The service manual says to separate the lower ball joints and leave the control arms attached to the rear subframe.
The guy in the video chose to remove the lower control arms. The service manual says to separate the lower ball joints and leave the control arms attached to the rear subframe.
#317
Anyone sell their broken transmission to a rebuilder?
How much did you get for it vs. scrap value?
How much did you get for it vs. scrap value?
#318
Pro
Sometimes people will give me their transmission but thats when they are buying one I already rebuilt. So its pretty much like a core for me.
I cant imagine I would pay more than 75 bucks for one outright. A yard around here wont even give 100 bucks for a whole car since scrap is so low.
I cant imagine I would pay more than 75 bucks for one outright. A yard around here wont even give 100 bucks for a whole car since scrap is so low.
#319
Sometimes people will give me their transmission but thats when they are buying one I already rebuilt. So its pretty much like a core for me.
I cant imagine I would pay more than 75 bucks for one outright. A yard around here wont even give 100 bucks for a whole car since scrap is so low.
I cant imagine I would pay more than 75 bucks for one outright. A yard around here wont even give 100 bucks for a whole car since scrap is so low.
#320
Hello all.
I think I'm about to pull the trigger on an 05 Odyssey transmission. My '02 TL-P supposedly has a Jasper rebuilt tranny that "neutrals" after a few miles of driving, and am interested in the AV6 swap. On the Odyssey, I keep running into an option for the Touring model, what is different about that transmission compared to an LX? Thanks for any info.
I think I'm about to pull the trigger on an 05 Odyssey transmission. My '02 TL-P supposedly has a Jasper rebuilt tranny that "neutrals" after a few miles of driving, and am interested in the AV6 swap. On the Odyssey, I keep running into an option for the Touring model, what is different about that transmission compared to an LX? Thanks for any info.