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outlawspeeder 07-01-2019 05:48 PM

Car Accelerates On Its Own problems of the 2003 Acura TL
 
Got a 2003 with 130,xxx miles that when stuck in traffic for about 10 to 15 minutes, it will try to take off without warning. I don't know where to start. I did the trains swap and it has ran great for about four years. It is about the time you lift your foot off the brake. In the last case it spun the tires and jumped 10 feet before I could stop it.

Looking for what to look at.

Thanks

RJTL03 07-01-2019 05:54 PM

Can you elaborate on the “taking off” piece.
Does the car still accelerate slightly when your foot is of the gas or are we talking a wide open throttle scenario ?

horseshoez 07-01-2019 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by outlawspeeder (Post 16447189)
Got a 2003 with 130,xxx miles that when stuck in traffic for about 10 to 15 minutes, it will try to take off without warning. I don't know where to start. I did the trains swap and it has ran great for about four years. It is about the time you lift your foot off the brake. In the last case it spun the tires and jumped 10 feet before I could stop it.

Looking for what to look at.

Thanks

Is your coolant level low?

outlawspeeder 07-01-2019 10:00 PM

When I take my foot off the brake, sometime it is like I hit the gas but I haven't touch it. Its like a big vacuum that comes and goes only when I take my foot off the brake.

Why would coolant low cause it? Not doubting you but asking. The temp gauge did go nuts today... hot then back to normal.

RJTL03 07-02-2019 12:11 AM

One of the things I have dealt with over the years with some older imports are a really dirty throttle body. It’s would be like you take the foot off the accelerator and hit the brake but the car is still acting like your foot is on the gas. It’s downright scary and you push those brake last pretty damn hard to stop the vehicle but you can tell the car still thinks you have the foot on the gas every so gently.

I don’t know if the TL is cable driven or computer driven or not but a dirty throttle body looks like this. That black ring will cause your throttle body to stick and continue to
let air into the engine when your trying to slow down/stop. You need to clean that ring with carb cleaner and a rag and really scrub it off there. I would start here and I would even unhook the battery for a bit to reset the ECU. You don’t have too, but it will reset the parameters as an extra layer of precaution.
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horseshoez 07-02-2019 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by outlawspeeder (Post 16447233)
When I take my foot off the brake, sometime it is like I hit the gas but I haven't touch it. Its like a big vacuum that comes and goes only when I take my foot off the brake.

Why would coolant low cause it? Not doubting you but asking. The temp gauge did go nuts today... hot then back to normal.

When the coolant is low on the J-Series engines, the throttle tends to surge.

outlawspeeder 07-08-2019 09:07 PM

The only thing I found that was odd is the antifreeze was brown? The next step is to flush the cooling system. My big problem is getting rid of the old. I'll have to cook it off to reduce it. I live in the country and there is not a place that I know of that takes it.

Anyone know who take antifreeze?

whitetiger5 07-09-2019 11:32 AM

I'm sure I'm not the first person who looked to your profile info to see where you live...not being sure of where you are at, most auto parts stores that recycle oil should take it. They have to get rid of it themselves, right? :shrug:

Arkady 07-10-2019 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by horseshoez (Post 16447317)
When the coolant is low on the J-Series engines, the throttle tends to surge.

No way, that's wild! Do you mind explaining why that happens?

whitetiger5 07-10-2019 02:18 PM

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horseshoez 07-10-2019 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by Arkady (Post 16451247)
No way, that's wild! Do you mind explaining why that happens?

It's been years since I researched this, but if I recall correctly, the issue has to do with how the coolant interacts with the Idle Air Control Valve (aka. IACV).

Arkady 07-10-2019 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by horseshoez (Post 16451254)
It's been years since I researched this, but if I recall correctly, the issue has to do with how the coolant interacts with the Idle Air Control Valve (aka. IACV).

@whitetiger5 :tomato: I spend all day googling for vendor KBs at work, but then forget that I can google for my hobbies too haha

@horseshoez that is crazy, but makes sense to my level of understanding of our engines. Cool stuff!

Mustafa Muhammad 08-23-2019 10:17 PM

Loosen throttle cable? Check to see if it's binding. I adjusted it too tight when i added the oddyssey spacer and it would surge at idle.


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